If my memory is correct they all were 3- A in the 70s then 2A maybe 80s for a while then 1-A
Don't have the patients for looking this stuff up as I once did.
Hearing North Stokes varsity team has folded
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Don't have the patients for looking this stuff up as I once did.
The good old Northwest 3A....Elkin was even in it. The 1985 realignment was my freshmen year at Starmount and we dropped to 2A til 1997 (1A) then 2A again (2005-09) then back to 1A currently.
I can vouch for FNL on on the ADM's. Carolina Preps has North and South's ADM numbers dating back to 1987. They don't have the Surry, Yadkin, or Wilkes's schools yet but they have North and South Stokes. Interesting stuff.
They lost a good chunk between 1998 and 99. 1998 though as a low numbers year for North Stokes. They had to forfeit the final 2 games that year to Starmount and Alleghany because they had no one left. This isn't a new thing. Unlike 1998 though they have better than usual talent coming up and a good coach in place. How good though? We will see.
If they had the pre 1998 #'s they would be 1AA or small 2A. Maybe a re-drawing of districts by the school people would help them get more kids. I don't see it happening though.
They lost a good chunk between 1998 and 99. 1998 though as a low numbers year for North Stokes. They had to forfeit the final 2 games that year to Starmount and Alleghany because they had no one left. This isn't a new thing. Unlike 1998 though they have better than usual talent coming up and a good coach in place. How good though? We will see.
If they had the pre 1998 #'s they would be 1AA or small 2A. Maybe a re-drawing of districts by the school people would help them get more kids. I don't see it happening though.
I agree with you . That makes sense after more checking.Must be how the ADMs were reported back then when only 1 or 2 teams made the playoffs . Anyone else think that has something to do with the ADMs not meaning much then.
susancoleman......You continue to berate your own hs! Dang it....if you don't have anything good to say about your own HS, don't say anything at all. Is it so hard to support your own HS and believe in the kids for time being. THEY WILL get better as the year goes by. Maybe they win another game but they will learn how to play together and in a year or two, they will be far better because of it.
I remember we stunk when we were freshman and one team beat us 59-0. Two years later, we beat the same team 20-9. That is the key....support from the fans and perseverance from the players and coaches. It will pay off in long run! I would be ashamed if you were a fan of my own school (glad u are not!) Many HS ....especially in 1A class will have a very down year or two. Look at Swain County....they are not doing well and have not win a game yet as of now. I have never seen Swain County lost all games at this point of any football season as far as I remember. Maybe you need to learn a thing or two from other Albemarle fans such as Buddy Rich and others.
I remember we stunk when we were freshman and one team beat us 59-0. Two years later, we beat the same team 20-9. That is the key....support from the fans and perseverance from the players and coaches. It will pay off in long run! I would be ashamed if you were a fan of my own school (glad u are not!) Many HS ....especially in 1A class will have a very down year or two. Look at Swain County....they are not doing well and have not win a game yet as of now. I have never seen Swain County lost all games at this point of any football season as far as I remember. Maybe you need to learn a thing or two from other Albemarle fans such as Buddy Rich and others.
I was making a true statement about our football team. I didn't say they were bad kids or anything. I was simply comparing their talent to NStokes in leigh of South Davidson. I am glad that I am not a fan of your team either. My team has been extremely successful for the last 25+ years and I expect that success to return. Time will tell, but its not NOW. Relax friend.
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North Stokes seniors upset with abrupt end of high school football
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North Stokes seniors upset with abrupt end of high school football
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I don't blame them I would be too. Sounds like no one even asked them for their input before the decision. Granted it was the higher up's decision but they deserved to be allowed to voice their inputs. They can't ever play again due to that. That's a tragedy and I feel for them.
Allowing them to move isn't legal though and I don't see it happening. Just a mess all around.
Allowing them to move isn't legal though and I don't see it happening. Just a mess all around.
Doesnt matter if u love the game u love the game, playing football is still fun, even if u get your a** beat every week its still fun to hit someone legally.
All players have a dream and his came to an end not by injury or by his own choice. Any player in his senior year having the rug pulled out from under him beyond his control has a right to be mad and angry. You have to put yourself in his place to fill what he is feeling. That statement was uncalled for and demeaning !
It was an honest comment, laced with a hint of sarcasm. I just have a hard time understanding how people can lose track of what's really important in life. The situation is awful, but if you put up 5 games of a senior year versus the health and safety of underclassmen, it's not even a question. You have to protect the future of the program so this doesn't happen in the future. I doubt this scenario would happen if NS had college talent on their team. Just my opinion.
I agree and was defending his feelings not defending what the school did for their safety. I do wish when something like this happens, the seniors should be able to transfer to the nearest county school with 5 games remaining. I know it can't happen but just a thought .
At this point I just hope if they don't have a varsity team next season, That they give the other conference teams pleaty of time to find other non conference games.
I agree 100%. The state needs to consider making rules in case if this becomes a statewide trend in extreme situations. It's awful to see any team fold and conference mates struggle to fill schedules.
I see them making it next year but again who knows. We all thought they had it turned around after last season with that 6 win year and look what happened. Still not too late but it may take 2 years for them to win in the worst case. Hopefully this is the death valley for them on the way back up to competing at the least.
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It is possible they want have enough players to have a team next year. Would you want to take a chance and stay for this to happen your senior year.They all may start transferring now. Would it worth carpooling to get to play football without fear of the school dropping the program mid-season ? Some living between S.& W. Stokes ,the drive may not be as far.Walkertown was about 8 to 10 miles farther .
To South Stokes https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=map+distance+From+North+Stokes+to+South+Stokes+High+school,nc
To West Stokes https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=map+distance+From+North+Stokes+to+West+Stokes+High+school,nc
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Seems to me like this shouldn't be an issue for the near future. Sounds like they are taking care of their young kids. I bet the kids that are still playing are appreciating the opportunity to play. Looking at the roster most of these seniors didn't play big roles last year. Just a small weak class and a bad situation for everyone involved.
Transferring, they allow that in Stokes county? Would pay a hefty out of county fee to attend WSFCS school.
Yeah it's not fair to the upper classmen but life isn't fair. Why would you want to pull 15 freshmen that were not very large to begin with up and have them get slaughtered by Mount Airy, Walkertown, and East Surry. Sometimes you have to do things you don't want to do and North Stokes obviously has the best interest of the future in their minds.
the thing that I believe everyone is forgetting is this yes it sucks for the seniors on this team especially when they have put in four hard years to the program, witch only two or three players have done, but it seems that everyone is pointing fingers at the coaching staff and administration. I can without a doubt say that there is not a coaching staff or administration in the history of high school athletics that has ever once said "you know what id love to shout down my varsity program and play a jv season" it has never been said. With the new information about concussions, over all laziness of society and an over all declining of a desire to play football it is hard to get a team of competitive players out for any school and i am sure this is even more true at a school as small as North. if you add in a senior class who may have a few cancers involved and parent base who sees the losing as a direct result of coaching and not that there boys may just not play well and this is what happens. I honestly believe that the decision that north made was an appropriate one and a wise move on the part of Head coach Reeves, AD Richardson, and principle Racey because it shows that as a school North Stokes is dedicated to the development and safety of there program, by leaving 15 freshman down on JV to grow, develop and create a system where some success can be achieved on the varsity level in a year or two. in other words there is a big difference in a 14 year old and an 18 year old and feeding those freshman to the wolves would do nothing but cause injures and create a situation in witch parents wouldn't even consider letting there children play for this school. If you cant see that then your just plane blind
I heard talk over the weekend that North Stokes plans to play final game of the season against Atkins as a varsity game to honor their seniors on senior night.
Not sure if the validity of this or even if they can do it since they have already disolved their varsity team.
Not sure if the validity of this or even if they can do it since they have already disolved their varsity team.
Atkins does go to 2A next year, they also had 54 kids out for football. TD, don't look for them to fold.
Would see Carver /WSP consolidate before They do with Atkins, academics!
The school WSP is not going away, WSFCS not letting that happen. They floated that idea this past fall, it fell Faster than it went up.
Carver also has space, Atkins does not.
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I also think football numbers are dropping through out the USA. Saw another concussion show today on ESPN. You guys have been very fortunate to have had coaching stability which means everything. North Stokes has been a revolving door since Sessions left. You have to look no further than once powerful programs like Thomasville and Albemarle several coaching changes and losing seasons. If you have read the Alblemarle threads they would not fielded a team without freshman and sophomores playing.
Somebody needs to start looking it to this now. Because that would only be a four football team conference.
Yep...thanks NCHSAA and the realignment committee - well done.
If all this program folding continues and it gets really dire in the NW it's going to be the 2nd conference I know of that has only 4 football playing teams in it.
The Mid State 2A's looking rather rough as well that's Reidsville's conference. Reidsville's conference in the next alignment is a real mess as it has them, B Yancy, Cummings, Graham, and Carrboro mixed in with 2 non football schools. It looked fine last year yes but given Carrboro, Cummings and Graham's issues this year to even compete there is no certainty they'd be around by 2020 if they stay this down. It would leave 2 schools in Reidsville and BY if they all fold in Football. That's a true nightmare.
The Mid State 2A's looking rather rough as well that's Reidsville's conference. Reidsville's conference in the next alignment is a real mess as it has them, B Yancy, Cummings, Graham, and Carrboro mixed in with 2 non football schools. It looked fine last year yes but given Carrboro, Cummings and Graham's issues this year to even compete there is no certainty they'd be around by 2020 if they stay this down. It would leave 2 schools in Reidsville and BY if they all fold in Football. That's a true nightmare.
The NW on the other hand would only have 4 teams if the N Stokes and Prep folding happens. It would be MA, East, South, and Bishop. It'd be a nightmare to find non conference teams due to many conferences being full. WPAC only had 5 dates while MVAC has 4. They'd have to play all kinds of off the wall schools. Well maybe on the brightside you could get a MA and Reidsville matchup every year perhaps or East vs. Reidsville.
It's interesting to think the NW could have been a 2A/1A mix again with all the Stokes and Surry (sans Elkin,) schools. All 7 schools were for it but it never had a chance to work out. Instead we are all stuck where we are at.
The next alignment in 2020's going to be a watershed one like 1967 was when the NW was created; or 1985 when it went 2A, or 1997 when it went 1A and the MVAC started.
There could be a lot of changes, but as to what I'm not sure yet. It's still a term away but I wouldn't be surprised.
I think both will play next year though. Prep has some talented kids off the JV team from last year and they will be a year older; N Stokes is really 2 years from being competitive every game but if they play the right teams next year (SD, Patrick still,) they could snag a win. They just gotta keep working and not give up. I don't think anyone wants them to fold for good I sure don't.
It's interesting to think the NW could have been a 2A/1A mix again with all the Stokes and Surry (sans Elkin,) schools. All 7 schools were for it but it never had a chance to work out. Instead we are all stuck where we are at.
The next alignment in 2020's going to be a watershed one like 1967 was when the NW was created; or 1985 when it went 2A, or 1997 when it went 1A and the MVAC started.
There could be a lot of changes, but as to what I'm not sure yet. It's still a term away but I wouldn't be surprised.
I think both will play next year though. Prep has some talented kids off the JV team from last year and they will be a year older; N Stokes is really 2 years from being competitive every game but if they play the right teams next year (SD, Patrick still,) they could snag a win. They just gotta keep working and not give up. I don't think anyone wants them to fold for good I sure don't.
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after watching North Stokes JV play it appears that in a couple of years things may get back to normal but that's only if they can keep the kids motivated...but they seemed to be having a good time out on the field...plus they had a decent fan base for a Monday night game
How many sophomores are on that team? How many JR's where on the varsity team? Are there enough of that mix to have a varsity team next year?