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koleszar

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That’s what it’s about - creating rivalries that everyone wants to watch regardless of what market they’re in. I suspect more ppl in Charlottesville, VA would watch FSU vs GA than their local team taking on Vanderbilt.
Are you Paul Tagliabue's brother? He said the same thing about Minnesota vs Rutgers. Some people just don't get how this whole realignment thing works. Conference members aren't going to take less money just cause fans want a name program.
 

JayDogSmooth

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Here's a news flash - the B1G will not pursue Miami who has very little fan support. For that matter, FSU won't be coming either as they would be the only Southeast team which just doesn't make sense.

The B1G will pursue SW and West coast teams as the geographic rivalries and travel distances between them make a lot of sense. Washington, Oregon, and ASU would bring in the Seattle, Portland and Phoenix markets which equates to MONEY
Noles have a standing offer from the B1G
Whether they go B1G or SEC remains to be seen
 

JayDogSmooth

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I liked the one lawyer when he talked about suing to get out of a GOR he said something to the effect of, "don't, you're going to lose. They're all written in the same language and they're airtight". FSU doesn't have better lawyers than the other guys, they want out, they're going to pay a massive buyout.

Hell, the exit fee alone costs over $120 mil. before you get into the GOR stuff of media rights. You would forfeit all media rights money from the ACC and then have to pay the ACC any media rights money you make from your new conference. Good Luck with that.
Alford mentioning 120 a few months back was the exit fee only

GOR & other associate fees = TDB

Nee dropping bombs is huge

The Guy is very tuned in and has never drank the early release kool aid

He’s now gone on record - interesting, and telling at the same time
 
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JayDogSmooth

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And where are the majority of these ACC schools going to get more? There's 14 full time members only about 3 maybe 4 are truly coveted. Those spouting that nonsense (FSU, Clemson, UNC fans) are in the minority of schools.

As for the B1G they value money over competitiveness which has proven to be the big winner in the realignment sweepstakes. Which is why the ACC is amongst the biggest losers they chose the opposite. Those which would draw the most money UNC and Virginia (your 4th).
I assume you don’t think UVA would bring in more money than FSU or Clemson
 

koleszar

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Alford mentioning 120 a few months back was the exit fee only

GOR & other associate fees = TDB

Nee dropping bombs is huge

The Guy is very tuned in and has never drank the early release kool aid

He’s now gone on record - interesting, and telling at the same time
He can be clued in all he wants, but if Texas and Oklahoma couldn't find a way around the GOR, FSU isn't doing it.
 

JayDogSmooth

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He can be clued in all he wants, but if Texas and Oklahoma couldn't find a way around the GOR, FSU isn't doing it.
Maybe
Maybe not
You, I, and most others truly have no idea

I’m merely going on what I’ve heard
Which, concidentially, is now what’s being reported

Will it happen?
Absolutely

Timeline?
Now that’s the 64,000 question
 

koleszar

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I assume you don’t think UVA would bring in more money than FSU or Clemson
FSU maybe, since B1G isn't in that media market so they might carry Florida but out in Tallahassee? It's still questionable. Clemson in South Carolina, wouldn't even pay for itself. See Nebraska they had to add the Championship game in order to justify their entrance so conference members didn't have to take less.
 
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koleszar

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Maybe
Maybe not
You, I, and most others truly have no idea

I’m merely going on what I’ve heard
Which, concidentially, is now what’s being reported

Will it happen?
Absolutely

Timeline?
Now that’s the 64,000 question
One has never been broken before. I'll take history over some guy named NEE.
 

bigmatt718

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FSU yes, since B1G isn't in that media market so they might carry Florida but out in Jacksonville? It's still questionable. Clemson and South Carolina, wouldn't even pay for itself. See Nebraska they had to add the Championship game in order to justify their entrance so conference members didn't have to take less.
Clemson is SEC or bust. B1G will never add Clemson. FSU they can justify the non AAU qualifications to get into FL.
 
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JayDogSmooth

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FSU maybe, since B1G isn't in that media market so they might carry Florida but out in Tallahassee? It's still questionable. Clemson in South Carolina, wouldn't even pay for itself. See Nebraska they had to add the Championship game in order to justify their entrance so conference members didn't have to take less.
Clemson = SEC
Noles = Sec or B1G
 
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JayDogSmooth

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They are a natural fit for the SEC

Think of the regional football rivalries
From a football only perspective, I would agree wholeheartedly
One has never been broken before. I'll take history over some guy named NEE.
cool
I’ll take what I’ve heard

The great things about message boards & predictions = nobody knows what will ultimately happen

That, along with the unpredictable nature of sports, makes this, and athletics, specifically college, the best
 

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Giant conferences are boring…darn shame the old model no longer works. The old conferences made so much sense and led to real rivalries…our one and only chance is Maryland🤨

The ol B8, SWC, Pac, ACC and originaL big ten…Rutgers in a real eastern conference (had it formed) and we’d have three or four real rivalries by now. As it stands, we have none.🤷🏻‍♂️
pointless and moot point… that ship not only sailed, but it hit an iceberg and sank long ago! 🤣
 

82RU

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I believe I read that FSU, Miami, Notre Dame and ASU
all gained AAU status just recently.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Giant conferences are boring…darn shame the old model no longer works. The old conferences made so much sense and led to real rivalries…our one and only chance is Maryland🤨

The ol B8, SWC, Pac, ACC and originaL big ten…Rutgers in a real eastern conference (had it formed) and we’d have three or four real rivalries by now. As it stands, we have none.🤷🏻‍♂️
pointless and moot point… that ship not only sailed, but it hit an iceberg and sank long ago! 🤣
This just isn’t true. Maryland and PSU would make great rivals if we could just be more competitive consistently.
 

Scarlet Shack

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Until USC and UCLA, the big ten has always been about keeping geographically continuous ….

But times are changing

The questions I have is
1.) does the big ten want to be more western or try to branch out and be more southern. Southern are growing population area ….

2.) will the SEC , if it gets wind that the big ten is truly interested in Florida state , let the big ten break in to their turf….

My hunch is the SEC won’t let big ten FSU break in to its territory …if the big ten is serous …even though Florida state and Clemson don’t add any new markets to them

I would give the big ten and Florida state a much better chance of happening if Jim Delaney was in charge . He knew how to keep it quiet….

It’s amazing how fast the landscape may rapidly change again ….
 
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Until USC and UCLA, the big ten has always been about keeping geographically continuous ….

But times are changing

The questions I have is
1.) does the big ten want to be more western or try to branch out and be more southern. Southern are growing population area ….

2.) will the SEC , if it gets wind that the big ten is truly interested in Florida state , let the big ten break in to their turf….

My hunch is the SEC won’t let big ten FSU break in to its territory …if the big ten is serous …even though Florida state and Clemson don’t add any new markets to them

I would give the big ten and Florida state a much better chance of happening if Jim Delaney was in charge . He knew how to keep it quiet….

It’s amazing how fast the landscape may rapidly change again ….
Issue w sec is you have multiple schools likely on par / ahead of fsu historically

Texas
Oklahoma
Bama
Barn
Vols
Gates
Georgia

In B1G, hierarchy would be

Buckeye
Michigan
Usc

Fsu tick below w psu

So from that standpoint, B1G makes more sense - but from a rivalry Angle, it’s SEC all day
 

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Issue w sec is you have multiple schools likely on par / ahead of fsu historically

Texas
Oklahoma
Bama
Barn
Vols
Gates
Georgia

In B1G, hierarchy would be

Buckeye
Michigan
Usc

Fsu tick below w psu

So from that standpoint, B1G makes more sense - but from a rivalry Angle, it’s SEC all day
Left out Nebraska
 

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Noles have a standing offer from the B1G
Whether they go B1G or SEC remains to be seen
The B1G has NEVER made any school a standing offer to join. Any school that the B1G has any interest in must sign a non disclosure agreement & if violated will no longer be under consideration
 
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JayDogSmooth

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The B1G has NEVER made any school a standing offer to join. Any school that the B1G has any interest in must sign a non disclosure agreement & if violated will no longer be under consideration
They have an offer from the B1G
My prediction of 2-3 years stands based off the info I’ve heard
Let’s see how it all plays out before speaking in absolutes
 

JayDogSmooth

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Where did you see this at ? I'm constantly on the FSU boards and everything that I've read says that they're waiting on an offer from both the SEC and B1G.
I’m on all 3 and listen to 5/6 different podcasts, and have a few friends decently connected

It’s been mentioned a few times in different places and vetted out from there
 

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Keep dreaming, sometimes dreams come true
I guess Wel see
I’ve been saying the same thing now for awhile

If I’m wrong, I’ll have no issues admitting it

But from everything I’ve heard, things are still on track for an early departure
 

krup

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They have an offer from the B1G
My prediction of 2-3 years stands based off the info I’ve heard
Let’s see how it all plays out before speaking in absolutes
Notre Dame doesn’t have a standing offer from the B1G, there is no way FSU has one.

The B1G won’t vote to offer a team unless the team is available and the B1G already knows they will accept.
 

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Notre Dame doesn’t have a standing offer from the B1G, there is no way FSU has one.

The B1G won’t vote to offer a team unless the team is available and the B1G already knows they will accept.
With all due respect, if you don’t think Notre Dame has an offer with the big 10 essentially anytime they want it, in the current landscape of college football, we will agree to disagree
 

krup

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With all due respect, if you don’t think Notre Dame has an offer with the big 10 essentially anytime they want it, in the current landscape of college football, we will agree to disagree
Notre Dame has likely had many discussions through the years with people from the B1G and knew they would get an offer if they agreed to join at the times of those discussions. Being Notre Dame, they can probably feel pretty confident they would get the same response no matter when reinitiated talks.

FSU made have had some discussions with the B1G at times the B1G was looking to add in the past, and gotten word that they would receive a B1G offer if they agreed to come.

The point is, nobody has an open offer to join, and in FSU’s case the Big Ten membership and leadership continues to change so much that they can’t be sure to get in until we know the situation and players at the time they are trying to get in.
 

JayDogSmooth

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Notre Dame has likely had many discussions through the years with people from the B1G and knew they would get an offer if they agreed to join at the times of those discussions. Being Notre Dame, they can probably feel pretty confident they would get the same response no matter when reinitiated talks.

FSU made have had some discussions with the B1G at times the B1G was looking to add in the past, and gotten word that they would receive a B1G offer if they agreed to come.

The point is, nobody has an open offer to join, and in FSU’s case the Big Ten membership and leadership continues to change so much that they can’t be sure to get in until we know the situation and players at the time they are trying to get in.
I agree with you that absent of Notre Dame, nobody could ever be sure of anything. They are the only sure bet

However, I can say with a lot of confidence that FSU has an invite when the ACC situation gets settled.

And pursuant with my previous posts, I’m confident it will get settled sooner rather than later.

But does not mean FSU will except a big ten bid when the ACC situation gets settled, as things are pretty much split 50-50 right now w B1G and SEC amongst the powers that be in Tallahassee