Here's the other thing about the Egg Bowl and our offense...

[dawgstudent]

1st TD - Kickoff Return
2nd TD - Busted play
3rd TD - Garbage time

So we legitimately scored 10 points on offense if you want to count the 2nd TD. We were just completely dominated in the 2nd half.

 

[SignalToNoise]

The famous Jim Mora "diddley poo" rant really applies to us Saturday night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Tie0tz7jGDI

 

[natchezdawg]

Yep. ***** about Wilson all you want, if we had not **** the bed on offense the flow of the game would have been much different. They got points off our turnovers, we did not.

 

[BigMotherTucker]

Dont forget the two shank punts by OM in the first half. We needed points but couldn't do ****.

/Im still pissed about the whole game.
//Just ********

 

[Beretta.sixpack]

Yep, 3 turnovers and 2 shanked punts in the first half. shouldve been up 10

at half.

Yep. ***** about Wilson all you want, if we had not **** the bed on offense the flow of the game would have been much different. They got points off our turnovers, we did not.

 

[WavelandDog]

The OC really needs to understand that we cannot establish the line of scrimmage with LP. I love to watch him run and he has knock down power but between the tackles is not his best suite. He needs space to be truly effective. Our offense failed to dominate physically all year and it showed when we played teams that could punch you in the mouth. Hopefully we build on it for next year! I have seen so much "Grade A" bad football in Starkville over the years that I consider this season a positive one. Hail State

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

I have yet to be impressed with Koennig, or at least Koennig without Hud. It was clear this season who the brains behind our offense was.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

We do not run between the tackles nearly enough. I'm too lazy to look it up, but what was Nick Griffin's ypc this year? 15? Since Bama we've been trying to get to the edge with Perk. I'm not sure why. The 3-4's weakness is in the middle. Let's face it. Against SEC competition, with our line, Perk is a 3rd down back. We need a big back to soften up the middle. That opens it up for Perk on the edge and Tyler in the passing game. Without that, we are playing catch-up from the jump.

Having a deep threat wouldn't hurt either. But all this offensive talk is really pointless. We set all kinds of records this year on offense.

And somehow our defense managed to give up more yards. We had the worst defense since the early Croom years. Think about that for a second.

Our offense didn't play well Saturday, but our defense didn't play well all year. I think we had the players to be good. I think the scheme sucked. We had the kind of personnel that Joe Lee Dunn would've loved. But we basically played prevent all year. Have to make a change at DC. Anyone who says otherwise is ignoring the statistics completely.

 

[HueFreeze]

WE absolutely need a new innovative OC

where the hell was the screen passes; short routes; and SET UP THE Play action my God our offensive gameplan all year was **** compared to what we did when Relf was qb


Step 1. either mullen calls the plays and quits special teams or we go out and get a young spread type OC that wants and is driven to be a HC in 3-5 years
Step 2. or we become aggressive on d and quit bending and breaking ...it puts your offense in terrible field position and Texas has athletes and they look like crap running it.

? I have ...Texas and MState i assume run the same defense ...can you show me one team in america that runs the same type of defense we run and it works? I think this experiment has ran its course we need Blitzes and bump coverage installed NOW

 

[ckDOG]

Mullen has strayed too far from his bread and butter offense

Dan Mullen, or Dan Mullen via Les Koenning, struggles with whatever it is you call our offense this season. Has he ever attempted a scheme similar to what we have seen this year? Even the offense that was tweaked for Chris Leak looks quite a bit different than what we are attempting to do this season. Leak's perception was pro-style QB, and I won't argue that wasn't his strength, but he at least was athletic enough to execute the option and pick up junk yards when plays broke down. Take a look at Florida highlights from that era. Lots of big plays using the option, or the threat of the option. It wasn't a Tebow offense, but the core principles were still there. Much different use of the speedier slot type guys and their running backs.

Tyler doesn't have the athletic ability to be an option threat. That's not a knock on Tyler - he's got a golden arm, reads defenses well, and can excel in the right type of offense. I just don't think Dan Mullen knows how to put together an offense that doesn't rely on a mobile QB to get advantages over the defense. The scheme may even be a good one in theory, but we need better talent on the OL and WR to execute. We don't have that. We need an offense that makes the defense think more. It's how success was created at Bowling Green and Utah. Instead, we have shifted to an offense that requires us to dominate the LOS for it to work. It can work against lesser opponents, but come to a grinding halt when the talent gap is closed. Unless we plan in closing the talent gap over night, Mullen needs to fall back on how he built his success.

 

[NCDawg.sixpack]

That rant is definitely applicable to our performance Saturday night. Wish Mullen had said something similar.

 

[Railin Jemmye]

Who's going to do it? Our OL was mediocre and our TBs are small and young. I think the offense did just what it should have done this year considering the personnel. I think we do the same thing next year. But in 2014 we start to see us veer back toward the running spread.

 

[Railin Jemmye]

I think this has been stated 100 times. But considering the personnel (Russell/Perkins), I doubt you'll see this until 2014, when Prescott is QB and Milton/Robinson are the starting tailbacks.

 

[Railin Jemmye]

Definitely makes you wonder on the Hud part. Of course Dixon and Sherrod also had something to do with those first 2 years.

 

[tenureplan]

I remember Manny blitzing alot more than we have the past two years.

 

[ckDOG]

It sucks, but I think you are right.

I think this has been stated 100 times. But considering the personnel (Russell/Perkins), I doubt you'll see this until 2014, when Prescott is QB and Milton/Robinson are the starting tailbacks.

I doubt we see many changes and we cross our fingers that the OL can be more effective establishing a push for the run game. It's the least disruptive plan and the plan that a guy who isn't under any type of big pressure to change is going to carry out.

In the perfect world, since Prescott has some decent game experience under his belt, Mullen goes back to his comfort zone offense and lets Tyler and Dak battle it out - with some very minor tweaking for the differences for the two. If Dak beats him out, so be it. Tyler would be SOL, but we would have a better shot at beating better opponents.

I'm all for tweaking offenses to match your talent, however I don't think coaching abilities are exempted from that rule either. If Mullen can't establish an effective offense outside of the scheme he's been successful with in the past, it's time to fall back on what he's good at and play the guys that can execute that plan.