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Hicks back to RB on depth chart, Laviano to start at QB

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Keith Sargeant tweet:
Josh Hicks is at RB, not safety, on the #rfootball depth chart. Flood said RB is the plan for now, but he's still working on the plan.

And another tweet from KS:
Exact question was: "Any chance Hayden Rettig sees some time at quarterback?' Flood: "Chris is the starting quarterback.'' #rfootball
 
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Then of course he could be used like Peppers and play both sides of the ball. Take Lewis out in passing situations because he just doesn't do the job in pass coverage.
 
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I think this is the game it all comes together and we will all be shown why Flood stuck with Chris this long.
 
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Flood has gone with the stubborn routine thinking it was GS mantra.

But it wasn't and foolish to say so. GS tried the wildknight, subbed for both Teel, Nova and Savage and was willing to try any number of trick plays.

GS was steadfast in program discipline but not a foolish stubborn don't try anything new coach. Flood is just simple and took one aspect which comforted him so he didn't have to analyze and ran with that.

And as to CL v Maryland. if he doesn't have a huge day against a bad team that just gave up bunches to Indiana, how can he be a B10 qb even as a backup?
 
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The best thing to happen to Flood this year was Laviano staying healthy. The LAST thing he wanted was to have to put in someone else and watch a QB succeed, forcing questions about his choice as starter.

Some may disagree and believe he's playing the best player we have. Others see no touchdown passes thrown in half of the games and more times than not less than 100 yards passing with few completions to anyone not named Carroo. The logical thing would have been to try someone else. The illogical thing is expecting Laviano to suddenly wake up one week and perform well.
 
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ru-baby said:
Flood has gone with the stubborn routine thinking it was GS mantra.

But it wasn't and foolish to say so. GS tried the wildknight, subbed for both Teel, Nova and Savage and was willing to try any number of trick plays.

GS was steadfast in program discipline but not a foolish stubborn don't try anything new coach. Flood is just simple and took one aspect which comforted him so he didn't have to analyze and ran with that.

And as to CL v Maryland. if he doesn't have a huge day against a bad team that just gave up bunches to Indiana, how can he be a B10 qb even as a backup?
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you are asking for a miracle from loviani if you are looking for a great day, he will get his 120 yds passing on 24 attempts and thats if caroo plays
 
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Caliknight said:
You aren't a fan of run run 5 yard pass when you need 10 I see.
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This has got to be the stupidest thing I see the coaching staff criticized for. Do you even watch other football games? Teams pass the ball short of the sticks all the time on 3rd down. Some time it works, some time it doesn't. Some times it's by design, some time by necessity. Just last night I was taking note of the Patriots and what they do on third down. On the first drive alone they had two occasions where they threw well short of the first down yard marker on third down. One was caught and ran for a first down, the other was caught and the runner dropped shy of the first down. I only watched the first half and some of the second and there were several other occasions where they did this. Sometimes the downfield receivers are covered and you have to try the short route. Some times the play is designed to send men long, opening it up for the short route to hopefully make a football move and get to the first. Some times the blitz pressure gets to the QB before the receivers make it to the sticks, so he has to throw to the short route. And guess what? sometimes everyone is covered and, as Brady did several times last night, he throws the ball into the ground in front of the receivers. Apparently doing it this way is good enough for the best QB and best team in the NFL. Some situations would clearly dictate reaching the sticks, but so many others where it is common to throw on third well short of the sticks.

Just flat out ignorant to blindly criticize the play calling for throwing short of the sticks. Just shake my head every time I see the brain trust on this board pull that one out of their hat.
 
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lighty said:
No, it's not. The reason RU is DEAD LAST in 3rd down conversions is because Laviano always throws short of the sticks.

Yes, it happens in other games as well -- but not every time!
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"always"
 
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brodo said:
Keith Sargeant tweet:
Josh Hicks is at RB, not safety, on the #rfootball depth chart. Flood said RB is the plan for now, but he's still working on the plan.

And another tweet from KS:
Exact question was: "Any chance Hayden Rettig sees some time at quarterback?' Flood: "Chris is the starting quarterback.'' #rfootball
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grant is responsible for any sucess in the rutgers offence, he even has more touchdown passes then laviano in the last 5 games
 
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This has got to be the stupidest thing I see the coaching staff criticized for. Do you even watch other football games? Teams pass the ball short of the sticks all the time on 3rd down. Some time it works, some time it doesn't. Some times it's by design, some time by necessity. Just last night I was taking note of the Patriots and what they do on third down. On the first drive alone they had two occasions where they threw well short of the first down yard marker on third down. One was caught and ran for a first down, the other was caught and the runner dropped shy of the first down. I only watched the first half and some of the second and there were several other occasions where they did this. Sometimes the downfield receivers are covered and you have to try the short route. Some times the play is designed to send men long, opening it up for the short route to hopefully make a football move and get to the first. Some times the blitz pressure gets to the QB before the receivers make it to the sticks, so he has to throw to the short route. And guess what? sometimes everyone is covered and, as Brady did several times last night, he throws the ball into the ground in front of the receivers. Apparently doing it this way is good enough for the best QB and best team in the NFL. Some situations would clearly dictate reaching the sticks, but so many others where it is common to throw on third well short of the sticks.

Just flat out ignorant to blindly criticize the play calling for throwing short of the sticks. Just shake my head every time I see the brain trust on this board pull that one out of their hat.
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Moron, we know how football works. But setting up Chris for 3rd and greater than seven clearly has not worked so well for us this year. We throw short of the sticks more than anyone. Coverage is so tight because Laviano is not a downfield threat. Know what you're talking about for once.
 
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slyker said:
This has got to be the stupidest thing I see the coaching staff criticized for. Do you even watch other football games? Teams pass the ball short of the sticks all the time on 3rd down. Some time it works, some time it doesn't. Some times it's by design, some time by necessity. Just last night I was taking note of the Patriots and what they do on third down. On the first drive alone they had two occasions where they threw well short of the first down yard marker on third down. One was caught and ran for a first down, the other was caught and the runner dropped shy of the first down. I only watched the first half and some of the second and there were several other occasions where they did this. Sometimes the downfield receivers are covered and you have to try the short route. Some times the play is designed to send men long, opening it up for the short route to hopefully make a football move and get to the first. Some times the blitz pressure gets to the QB before the receivers make it to the sticks, so he has to throw to the short route. And guess what? sometimes everyone is covered and, as Brady did several times last night, he throws the ball into the ground in front of the receivers. Apparently doing it this way is good enough for the best QB and best team in the NFL. Some situations would clearly dictate reaching the sticks, but so many others where it is common to throw on third well short of the sticks.

Just flat out ignorant to blindly criticize the play calling for throwing short of the sticks. Just shake my head every time I see the brain trust on this board pull that one out of their hat.
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Sorry, you are wrong. It doesn't happen all of the time. Well, it does for Laviano and Rutgers, but most teams aren't stupid enough to throw a 5 yard crossing route when you need 10. It explains our third down conversion rate. But hey, when you have the QB we have, you don't have much chance of getting it anyway.
 
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Caliknight said:
Sorry, you are wrong. It doesn't happen all of the time. Well, it does for Laviano and Rutgers, but most teams aren't stupid enough to throw a 5 yard crossing route when you need 10. It explains our third down conversion rate. But hey, when you have the QB we have, you don't have much chance of getting it anyway.
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Hey Vince Lombardi
I guess Bill Belicheck and Tom Brady are wrong too. As I said, in just the portion of the game I saw last night, the Pats did it two times on their first drive and several other times during the game. Happens all the time with other teams as well. ALL THE TIME. Open your eyes. you might learn something.
 
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Slyker, if we got the results other teams get we would all be in Chris' camp.
 
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slyker said:
Hey Vince Lombardi
I guess Bill Belicheck and Tom Brady are wrong too. As I said, in just the portion of the game I saw last night, the Pats did it two times on their first drive and several other times during the game. Happens all the time with other teams as well. ALL THE TIME. Open your eyes. you might learn something.
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You're missing some key differences from that game. When Tom Brady throws short he makes sure that receiver has a reasonable chance at getting the yards for the first down. Laviano throws to a guy who has no shot because he's clearly covered. He also has a very high football IQ which Laviano lacks and he can rely on his defense. he knows when to just take the yards he can get for the punter and let the defense do it's job, and then he'll rally on the next drive. Rutgers lacks on all fronts so we should have adapted to a different style of play.

But keep trying to spin your story without addressing the issues of why it works for the Patriots and not Rutgers.
 
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slyker said:
The fact is. It's done all the time. And blindly criticizing the play caller or the QB for doing it is just ignorant. And that is what I read here weekly. No one can deny that.

Here is some words about it from Someone who actually knows a slight bit more than most of you on the topic:

http://espn.go.com/blog/philadelphi...d-down-sometimes-receivers-have-to-run-for-it
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It's not done "all the time" in fact the very article you provided as proof says "sometimes". And good job on ignoring the major differences I pointed out.

In your fantasy world Chris Laviano and our receiving corps are of equal talent of Tom Brady and his receivers. Gotcha. Laviano doesn't have the vision to pick out the open receiver on a third and long when throwing short. That's a fact.
 
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The fact is. It's done all the time. And blindly criticizing the play caller or the QB for doing it is just ignorant. And that is what I read here weekly. No one can deny that.

Here is some words about it from Someone who actually knows a slight bit more than most of you on the topic:

MADHAT1 said:
http://espn.go.com/blog/philadelphi...d-down-sometimes-receivers-have-to-run-for-it
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That works much better when the QB is a threat to throw the bomb and spread the field.
Laviano isn't like Brady and Bradford in that respect and when RU needs to move the chains
the opposition looks for the short out and dares Chris to throw it long.
With that type of defense, stopping the receiver short of the first down marker is easier to do.
So it's not ignorant,when you compare the type of offense RU runs and its QB to the teams
and QBs you mentioned.
I might be ignorant not to understand the different types of offenses you're comparing and the QBs running them when you talk about receivers making enough yards after the catch to make a first down
 
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slyker said:
Hey Vince Lombardi
I guess Bill Belicheck and Tom Brady are wrong too. As I said, in just the portion of the game I saw last night, the Pats did it two times on their first drive and several other times during the game. Happens all the time with other teams as well. ALL THE TIME. Open your eyes. you might learn something.
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I am sorry. I don't take you serious.
 
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