And this changed after Stan's retired. For the record, yes I was a Stan's supporter. But I also realize that something had to change. I just thought the change would be assistants and Sid, Dee, and Arnette leaving. But after I went to the NIT game Insaw wi my own eyes Stan's was ready to hang me up. I didn't know he would but he was not his normal self on the court. Now we are where we are. I think Stricklin hired a good man to replace Stansbury. I also think we see how much his players really liked Stansbury. We will be bad for a few but hopefully Ray will get us back to a good Stansbury level one day