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How did THIS happen...PSU 20, Army 14

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shields

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Barkley had almost 200 yards vs Ohio State, Army had no chance if Barkley played.
 
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Jeismeister said:
amazing the ignorance on this board ... temple does NOT lose its whole team next year loses only one starter on the dl (Matt Ioannidis, replace by Freddy Booth-Lloyd who nearly plays as many snaps now), one LB (Matakevich, replaced by this year's starting fullback, Nick Sharga), and 1 starting db (Tavon Young, replaced by current 4-star redshirt Kareem Ali). Plenty of impact players back on offense (P.J. Walker, Jahad Thomas, Ventell Bryant). But, yeah, keep thinking that Temple loses the whole team.
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You left out the two starting safeties Hayes and Well on defense. Temple has 13 guys who started games this season who are seniors. For the UCONN game they list 15 seniors in two deep for that game. So Temple is a very veteran squad and probably will take a step back next year.
 
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saran said:
When was the last time PSU played an option team? If you haven't played it in awhile it can be hard. It can also be hard to run in practice (a reason given by UConn for a loss to Army). Plus - Army often plays hard vs the big teams that are supposed to kill them. Conversely they often lose to teams they take for granted. I once saw Army play Stanford well for 3 quarters. I saw them beat Northwestern and BC. I also saw them lose to Stony Brook, Fordham and Yale. Army can catch a bigger team napping. I'm sure PSU was expecting a week off.
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Well-said. Army usually plays one of their P5 opponents at a very high level; all last week I just kept thinking, "please don't let us be this year's 'BC' game for them." I also know that a lot of Army fans typically want the Rutgers game due to the 'local rival' aspect.


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JoeRU0304

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Noh, I think they're a bowl team next year, but in 2017 they fall off a cliff.


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PSU_Nut said:
You left out the two starting safeties Hayes and Well on defense. Temple has 13 guys who started games this season who are seniors. For the UCONN game they list 15 seniors in two deep for that game. So Temple is a very veteran squad and probably will take a step back next year.
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Phil Snow, the DC at Temple, likes to run in waves of players. Temple rarely goes with 11 guys and the two underclassmen, Nate L. Smith and Delvon Randall, get just as much playing time as Wells and Will Hayes and probably have a much higher upside than the seniors. That's pretty much the plan. Depth would have been an issue FOR NEXT YEAR'S TEAM had not Rhule red-shirted 18 guys this season. Rhule said he's not going anywhere because he would have not redshirted that many guys. By contrast, Addazio burned every redshirt his final year, including those of Ioannidis, who only played a few downs, and Smith, who returned just a handful of kickoffs. I fully expect Temple to be just as good next year, if not better. He explains it in the second question here:
http://www.scout.com/college/temple/story/1614577-phil-snow-temple-memphis-postgame
 
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PSU_Nut said:
You left out the two starting safeties Hayes and Well on defense. Temple has 13 guys who started games this season who are seniors. For the UCONN game they list 15 seniors in two deep for that game. So Temple is a very veteran squad and probably will take a step back next year.
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DE Smith and DT Walton are listed as RsSrs. Is that a mistake? 3 starters on the OL are seniors. Unless there's something missing I have to go with you. You seem to know your stuff.
 
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Jeismeister said:
Phil Snow, the DC at Temple, likes to run in waves of players. Temple rarely goes with 11 guys and the two underclassmen, Nate L. Smith and Delvon Randall, get just as much playing time as Wells and Will Hayes and probably have a much higher upside than the seniors. That's pretty much the plan. Depth would have been an issue FOR NEXT YEAR'S TEAM had not Rhule red-shirted 18 guys this season. Rhule said he's not going anywhere because he would have not redshirted that many guys. By contrast, Addazio burned every redshirt his final year, including those of Ioannidis, who only played a few downs, and Smith, who returned just a handful of kickoffs. I fully expect Temple to be just as good next year, if not better. He explains it in the second question here:
http://www.scout.com/college/temple/story/1614577-phil-snow-temple-memphis-postgame
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If a coach says he is staying, they always stay.
 
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Jeismeister said:
This guy is different. He's invested 10 years into Temple and saw what happened to Golden and, to a lesser extent, Daz.
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If he continues to win at Temple he'll take the money and run to one of the big programs.
Who wouldn't ?
 
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KingHigh said:
A big psu fan I know was teasing me about flood and I asked if he still liked franklin and he called him a used car salesman. It won't be long before he's fired.
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he is the psu version of brady hoke. great recuiter cant coach. 0-18 against top 25 teams
 
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