How many people here could see LT do this?

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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We really don't know how lucky we were/are. Some other schools have limits on how many games students can attend (e.g. Ohio State) or what games you can go to depend on your class standing (e.g. Auburn).
 

futaba.79

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The SA senator quoted in the article went to him with the idea. Byrne certainly appreciates the effort but he didn't initiate it.

The SA would like to see a Student Bulldog Club started, with students earning points for attending the non-revenue sports events, points they could carry over as members of the actual Bulldog Club when they graduate. The $2 per ticket would be used to get it going, with the rest (the vast majority of the $) targeted for facilities improvements.
 

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Because if I'm a, say... 5-10 year member of the Bulldog Club with a modest giving level and all of a sudden I'm being jumped by Joey and Freddy simply because they just graduated as 5th year seniors and attended a bunch of volleyball and soccer games trying to get laid, well... I think I might be pissed.
 

futaba.79

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enough to prevent that from happening. The way I understand it, students that join and attend events would be ahead of those that didn't bother.

For instance, two new regular Bulldog Club members join the same day at the same giving level. If one had been a member of the student club and had attended a bunch of events, that person would be ranked ahead of the one that didn't.
 

dgsmith15

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The only way I could see that being fair is if the giving level was exactly the same for both clubs.
 
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I'm not sure exactly how the dollars are broken down, but it's the same concept. You also have to pay $100 at the beginning of the year as a membership fee.

The only real advantage to joining it in my opinion is that you don't have to wait in line for football season tickets.
 

jamdawg96

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some douche on the SA is trying to slow this thing down. His name is Byrd, and he's no Byrne. If you read the article you'll see what I'm talking about. Research? Are you kidding me, man? It's simple math. And it makes perfect sense. Kudos to Senator Ammon for jump starting this thing. I really hope the SA nuts up for once and passes this. Otherwise, it'll be another wasted opportunity to do something significant. Any student that's opposed to paying two extra bucks a game so we can raise a ****-ton of money for athletics can suck Bully's balls and should be booed like he just missed an extra point or something. This bill is a chip shot.

DO THE RIGHT THING, STUDENT ASSOCIATION.
 

vhdawg

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....if it thinks it is a barrier to the AD increasing student ticket prices.
 

futaba.79

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...however, it will be a heckuva lot better for Greg Byrne's relationship with the students if it comes from them. It will also be better for the students in that they will have suggested the increase and, thus, will have control over the amount.</p>
 

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First of all, Byrd was interviewed before he knew the details of the ticket price increase. It seems like The Reflector spun the story slightly. The general consensus of The SA is in favor of the ticket price increase. However, they do want to make sure that the additional money being generated by the price increase is given back to the students. One way the money will be used is to create a student affinity organization. Currently, an organization of this nature is being formed. This organization will not only benefit the students, but also the alumni association, athletic department, and the university. The SA has done great things and will continue to do so. Keep an eye out for all the things the SA is doing.
 

jamdawg96

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Maybe the story was spun and maybe it wasn't... That's irrelevant. The students don't need to see any of that money unless it's in the form of a new facility or better **** at the athletic events. That's the point of raising the ticket prices... to give more money to our (extremely) under-funded athletic department. Any affinity organization should be an optional increase. I see this particular move as a tax. A success tax, if you will, that all students should be willing to pay in order to further enhance our facilities, etc... Thus enhancing our chances of being competitive in the SEC.

I'll gladly pay the extra dough and expect nothing in return save a better product to support. Your organizations are all well and good, sir. They'd be nice for priority ticketing, merchandise, and athletic fundraiser banquet type ****. But they're worthless without the ability of keeping up with the rest of the conference. Prioritize. Raise the ticket price and give it all to Byrne and company. Raise it even further a little later on for those who want an affinity club.
 

futaba.79

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Student Bulldog Club, which was part of the deal, according to the senator. That will be a minimal expense. The vast majority will go to facilities. This is politics.
 

ynotjt

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No, jamdawg, you're wrong. I know $150,000 dollars is a lot of money that could go to a new basketball facility. Believe me, I want to see one just as bad as you do. However, the reason the students should receive this allocation of money is simple. The students are future alumni. As you know, alumni are the ones that make major donations. These major donations are what build the facilities and programs you are wanting. Students need to see this money as benefiting their experience here at MSU; because your experience here at MSU is a big influence on how you support MSU upon graduation. If you have a good experience, you're more inclined to donate and vice versa. I'm sure you get that, I'm just explaining my point to be more clear. Anyway, this organization that's being formed will help in creating this memorable experience. It will attract students through ideas that are being incorporated into this particular organization. In doing so, you will create a strong sense of longing to the students that graduate. This affinity is what drives alumni to donate money and continue to support the university, the athletic department, and the alumni association. If you have more students forming strong ties to MSU, you in turn have more alumni wanting to donate money to MSU. Thus, it will build better facilites for athletics, hire better teachers, and as a whole make MSU a better place. One last thing. Currently, only 13 % of the alumni give. This is a very low number. This organization will help increase that precentage, and again make MSU a better place.
 

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$5 a game is still ridiculous. They should be a lot higher. First off, they go on your student account so tons of students' parents would be the ones paying anyway. Secondly, if you are willing to pay somewhere around $10 to see the Bulldogs then you should be shot in the head. I don't care how broke you are, if you really love your school you can afford $10 a game.
 

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ynotjt said:
No, jamdawg, you're wrong. I know $150,000 dollars is a lot of money that could go to a new basketball facility. Believe me, I want to see one just as bad as you do. However, the reason the students should receive this allocation of money is simple. The students are future alumni. As you know, alumni are the ones that make major donations. These major donations are what build the facilities and programs you are wanting. Students need to see this money as benefiting their experience here at MSU; because your experience here at MSU is a big influence on how you support MSU upon graduation. If you have a good experience, you're more inclined to donate and vice versa. I'm sure you get that, I'm just explaining my point to be more clear. Anyway, this organization that's being formed will help in creating this memorable experience. It will attract students through ideas that are being incorporated into this particular organization. In doing so, you will create a strong sense of longing to the students that graduate. This affinity is what drives alumni to donate money and continue to support the university, the athletic department, and the alumni association. If you have more students forming strong ties to MSU, you in turn have more alumni wanting to donate money to MSU. Thus, it will build better facilites for athletics, hire better teachers, and as a whole make MSU a better place. One last thing. Currently, only 13 % of the alumni give. This is a very low number. This organization will help increase that precentage, and again make MSU a better place.
You couldn't be more wrong. Like jamdawg said, the $2 increase should so straight to the athletic department, and it should really be more than $2. Anything further that the students want to do should be an additional increase on top of that. I was a student in 98, 99, 00, and 01, and you know why I had an incredible experience as an MSU student regarding athletics? Because we beat other team's asses on the football field. Also, and no offense intended, but people in the SA don't represent most of the students on campus. Whatever they did with the money would more than likely be superficial and probably not work. Rick's Rowdies were great until some douchebag got a hold of them and turned them into fat chicks, and now no other students want to participate. That's the same thing that would most likely happen with any group or whatever that the SA came up with.
 

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im casting my vote tonight. you can text "4$5Tix" on any cellular south phone results will be available on tomorrows show.
 

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compared to the rest of the SEC. Even at $5 per ticket, we will have close to, if not the cheapest student tickets in the SEC besides South Carolina and Vandy (which are still free).

On top of that, based on last season prices, our regular season ticket prices were the 3rd cheapest in the SEC and most SEC schools have the luxury of forcing at least a $2500 donation to have a chance at tickets.

We need to raise revenue to be competitive. I agree with $10 per ticket.
 

ynotjt

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There are several groups across the nation at multiple colleges that are similar to the organization the SA is wanting to form. It's not at all like Rick Rowdies. Unlike Rick Rowdies, it's an incentive based program that rewards students for attending events. The more events the better the prize. Along with grand prizes to the students that attends the most events. I understand your point of view that the SA didn't understand the overall view of the student body. Most people believe that The SA is a small minded group that have their own personal agendas they want to get done. That, however, is changing. The SA has a new mindset now. "If it doesn't benefit the students, then don't do it". I want to name a few things that the SA has done that has benefited all students, alumni and the city of Starkville. One being The Night Route. Started by a past SA President. The Night Route is a public transit system that takes students to various venues in Starkville. Another thing the SA has done that I'm sure you would be very upset, if you didn't have it is The Junction. This was started by a past SA Cabinet Director of Athletic Affairs. Last thing I'll mention is Bulldog Bash. This event is the largest free concert in the State. So you see, The SA is changing. The SA is making strides that benefit your MSU, my MSU, and every other bulldog out there. Now, to touch on this organization being formed. You're right when you think that "well none of the money will immediately go to universtity or athletic department". Though, the idea behind this organization is not for a short term fix. It's a long term plan that will benefit MSU for years to come. A little more info on the group. It will not lump Greeks, nor will it lump independents into groups. It will unite the student population into one body. A student body that will support MSU in all that it does. One last thing. In order to make MSU the university it has the potential in becoming is a positive attitude in all that it does. Greg Byrne, Dr. Abraham, Dr. Keenum and other administrators are instilling this attitude. We just need to hop on board with it. And the sheer fact that you're posting concerns shows just that. Which is awesome!
 

jamdawg96

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Look man, there is no right or wrong here, it's a matter of opinion. I think the money should first be dispersed directly to the athletic department, because that's where the UNIVERSITY needs it. I like the idea of a "student" Bulldog Club, but it's not gonna take a lot of money to get that **** together. I'm talking about a major NEED that Mississippi State has right now, and that's funds. You gotta get 'em any way you can, and one glaring figure that needs reconsideration is $3. That's the price of student tickets, and it should be raised, first and foremost, for the University, NOW. Not for some future alumni encouragement deal that won't matter at all if our program turns to ****.

With the economy the way it is right now, this is a crucial time to stay in the game in terms of fundraising. I think it's a great idea to bestow some of that burden on the students themselves, and raise money for the athletic department by increasing the price of student admission. Any "plans" the SA has in terms of student affinity should not take precedence over the athletic program itself. And if you ask me, as long as the ticket takers turn a blind eye to the whiskey and smokes in my pocket, my "experience" and Scott Field will be fine and dandy. It will only improve if I have a winning team to cheer for, and the best way I can make sure that happens is give my money directly to Greg Byrne, and not some points club like I'm trying to earn a free night's stay or airline miles. Not right now at least...

You probably have a good idea on your mind and good intentions with your plans, but if the bill is passed and the money is raised, don't waste it like the SA's been known to do on overpaid bands, etc.. If we're talking $150,000 raised by the students, $100,000 of that better go directly to the god damn teams.