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A community college offensive lineman being recruited by Texas Tech got a close view of head coach Tommy Tuberville’s hasty departure over the weekend. Tommy Tuberville unexpectedly bolted from Texas Tech and accepted the head coaching job at Cincinnati on Saturday. Devonte Danzey of Hutchinson (Kansas) C.C. arrived in Lubbock for his official visit. Shortly after arriving in Lubbock, Danzey and at least two other recruits — lineman Sunny Odogwu and receiver Javess Blue — along with “eight to 10” coaches, including Tuberville, all went to dinner at the 50-Yard Line Restaurant on South Loop 289, Danzey said.



In the midst of the conversation at the table, he asked the coaches how long they expected to be at Tech (if they were not fired), he said. “I asked Coach (Charlie) Weis at KU and Coach (Dana) Holgorsen at West Virginia (the same question), just so I know my relationship with them,” Danzey said. “(Tuberville) was just telling me he coached at Miami and Auburn, he coached 10 years and recruited Ray Lewis and kind of blew the question off I didn’t even realize.” He added: “The waitress brought our food out, and we thought (Tuberville) went to the bathroom, but he never came back to dinner. Then next thing I know, the next day, he made an announcement that he’s going to Cincinnati.”


Texas Tech athletics spokesman Blayne Beal confirmed Tech coaches did take players to dinner that night, which he said is a common occurrence on visits by recruits, but was unaware of any incidents that happened at dinner. The next morning the recruits were scheduled to take a tour of the campus, but Tuberville did not show up for it, Danzey said. That’s when offensive line coach Chris Thomsen, who was named interim head coach Monday, came back to the group and broke the news Tuberville had been named the new head coach at Cincinnati. The tour was “around 11 a.m.” or “about 30 minutes before the news broke,” Danzey said. The 6-foot-3, 303-pound offensive lineman did not let Tuberville’s departure ruin his visit. “Everybody was going crazy,” Danzey said. “The players were shocked, too. We still had a good time at night, but it was crazy how he just got up and left out of nowhere and left people in the dark and in the shadow.” Before Saturday’s turn of events, Danzey was considering the Red Raiders because of the chance he would have to compete for the starting center spot.
 
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DerHntr

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Is there a bigger scumbag in coaching other than him and Petrino?
 
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DerHntr said:
Is there a bigger scumbag in coaching other than him and Petrino?
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Kiffin and Orgeron. Telling your team you're leaving while your assistant can be heard in the background recruiting players targeted by the school you're leaving is pretty low down.
 
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FlabLoser

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I guess he should have broke the news to the recruits first. Just to crap all over the recruiting class on the way out.

Why y'all change jobs do you wreck **** on the way out or keep working as normal right up to the last minute?
 
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Railin Jemmye

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This outlines a bigger problem in college football recruiting today. These guys should be deciding which school they want to attend, not what coach they want to play for. It's like recruiting has become a skill of its own nowadays, especially when coaches jump jobs all the time. Surely these players see this for what it is. I think I'd pick a school that I know I'd like no matter the coach. Be alot less attrition that way. This is why I love the transfer rule about having to sit out a year.
 
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Railin Jemmye

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Good point, and a great viewpoint to consider.

However he could have added some common courtesy in there. Should have said that something came up, I still hope you consider Tx Tech, etc.
 
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MSUDawg4Life

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FlabLoser said:
I guess he should have broke the news to the recruits first. Just to crap all over the recruiting class on the way out.

Why y'all change jobs do you wreck **** on the way out or keep working as normal right up to the last minute?
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Good point.

I just worked as normal and then left.
 
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patdog

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Me too. But I did always give a 2-week notice. Probably the best answer would be to have a dead period for recruiting until 1 or 2 weeks after the conference championship games. Or maybe just no campus visits during that time.
 
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FlabLoser said:
I guess he should have broke the news to the recruits first. Just to crap all over the recruiting class on the way out.

Why y'all change jobs do you wreck **** on the way out or keep working as normal right up to the last minute?
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Well my last job I quit the boss ignored my email giving him my two weeks notice , so I left on the first Friday at lunch an never said bye or anything. When I leave my current job I will jump for joy and maybe wreck some **** too, who knows.
 
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Railin Jemmye said:
This outlines a bigger problem in college football recruiting today. These guys should be deciding which school they want to attend, not what coach they want to play for. It's like recruiting has become a skill of its own nowadays, especially when coaches jump jobs all the time. Surely these players see this for what it is. I think I'd pick a school that I know I'd like no matter the coach. Be alot less attrition that way. This is why I love the transfer rule about having to sit out a year.
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What a totally unrealistic opinion.

Lets say you are a traditional pocket passing QB and you are on a visit to any random respected program because you have the opportunity to come in and compete for snaps either the first year or be their cornerstone after 1 year on the sidelines.
You commit to play for them, and the coaching staff is fired or leaves for a better opportunity.

The new coach is wildly successful, but employs an offense that depends on the QB to both handle some running and to scramble a lot.

That new coach, seeing you are nothing like what he wants, starts recruiting future classes for QBs that fit his system.



But you think a player should commit to the school and not the staff?? What a shortsighted and unrealistic view.
 
DawgatAuburn

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You EMAILED your two week notice? And when no one responded you still didn't talk to anyone?
 
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Railin Jemmye

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Sorry, but that's the hard truth. Certainly there are exceptions, and that's why the transfer rule is in place. For guys like Ryan Mallett. These kids make stupid decisions all the time. Need more parents to get involved. Coaches do in fact play a part in these things, and they should. But they should NOT be the only factor.
 
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121Josey

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Railin Jemmye said:
This outlines a bigger problem in college football recruiting today. These guys should be deciding which school they want to attend, not what coach they want to play for. It's like recruiting has become a skill of its own nowadays, especially when coaches jump jobs all the time. Surely these players see this for what it is. I think I'd pick a school that I know I'd like no matter the coach. Be alot less attrition that way. This is why I love the transfer rule about having to sit out a year.
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Really? I thought recruits were deciding what school they want to attend. Oh, you mean academically and socially, right?

So picking a school that a recruit would like (academically and socially?) would lead to less attrition? That is until they start playing athletics for that school and then leave (see TSUN 2011).

Since recruiting has become a skill, is that why coaches are hired because they are good recruiters? Recruiting websites stay in business?

What does the transfer rule have to do with your argument? Will the transfer rule stop someone from transferring? You do know that it only applies for transfers to other D-1 schools don't you?
 
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I remember when he left TSUN. Right up to the last day "When will you guys (reporters) get it? I am not going to Auburn."
 
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Railin Jemmye

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You are not a smart individual. At all.

But I'll oblige you. I'd hate for an athlete to choose a school to get an education. No way.
 
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DerHntr

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Railin Jemmye said:
This outlines a bigger problem in college football recruiting today. These guys should be deciding which school they want to attend, not what coach they want to play for. It's like recruiting has become a skill of its own nowadays, especially when coaches jump jobs all the time. Surely these players see this for what it is. I think I'd pick a school that I know I'd like no matter the coach. Be alot less attrition that way. This is why I love the transfer rule about having to sit out a year.
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So you are back to the "recruit Mississippi kids who want to go to MSU" stance again? Good job Ron Polk. You have now applied that same ridiculous logic to basketball and football.
 
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Railin Jemmye

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Those two issues are only indirectly related. It's the correct logic, period. If you can recruit regionally, by all means do it. But MSU football and basketball CANNOT do this effectively at this point, at least until we've won enough to attract attention. MSU baseball can now do it, but even still Cohen had to build the team with guys from close-by.

Not sure how this has much to do with my post you quoted. Athletes should be choosing their school based on the school and program, NOT completely about a coach, who could leave at any second. The school and program are constant.

We can recruit a 5* QB from California all we want, but realistically he ain't coming unless his parents went to State or has some other connection. Or if, in 20 years, we've built ourselves into a national power, which is about as likely as common sense infiltrating this message board.
 
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Railin Jemmye

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I think he got his replies mixed up. Basically calling King Jackie one of the sleaziest coaches out there along with Petrino and Tubs, which makes no sense either. It sure doesn't make sense in the context of what Kiffin and Orgeron did.
 
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My biggest problem with this is recruits are only allowed I think five official visits and he wasted an official visit for some of those players.
 
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Most Nafoom posters at least bring something to the table on this board. You bring nothing but being a lifeless piece of ****.
 
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121Josey

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I believe most schools offer education. That's why they call them schools.** Not all schools offer good (SEC) football. That's ONE of the reasons I chose State.

The other reason was so that the MSU degree on the wall could tell me that I'm a smart individual. I can't say the same for you.
 
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121Josey

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Railin Jemmye said:
Athletes should be choosing their school based on the school and program, NOT completely about a coach, who could leave at any second. The school and program are constant.
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Constant? Like Auburn winning the national championship and on the doorstep of the SEC two years later?
 
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Railin Jemmye

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Yes. Going 3-9 isn't going to deter good athletes from going to Auburn. Probation maybe, but not a down year every now and then. In general, their reputation is a good, attractive program.
 
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KurtRambis4

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I completely disagree with this.

If I'm a top D! athlete, I'm going where I believe I have the best opportunity to suceed and receive the best training that fits me.
 
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