I understand now why USF and UCF are in play for the Big 12.

[Rootmaster]

Recruiting.

According to story by tampabay.com, Texas recruiting for any Big 12-2=10 school has been slipping a lot and new grounds are needed...as a need to blunt SEC in traditional Big 12 areas.

"From 2004-06, the Big 12 dominated recruiting in talent-rich Texas, landing 113 of the state's top 150-ranked players; the SEC plucked only 13. But when Texas A&M bolted for the SEC, starting with the 2012 season, the Big 12's stranglehold disappeared. Over the past three classes, the Big 12 signed only 69 of Texas' top 150 players. The SEC took 54."

Here's the link: http://www.tampabay.com/sports/coll...12s-recruiting-footprint-into-florida/2291275

If the unwritten intent is to blunt the SEC then that also explains Houston and Memphis and even Tulane's consideration. Also, Cincinnati for Ohio. Maybe four...USF, UCF, Houston and Cincinnati. Who knows?

 

[GetYaNumbersUp]

I doubt the SEC heavyweights + FSU and Clemson are going to start losing recruits to Big 12 schools if USF and UCF are added. In fact, I'd say that it would hurt WVU because we now would have 1 or 2 additional P5 schools down there to recruit against.

I feel the same way about Cincy and Ohio recruiting. If we MUST expand, select BYU and Houston.

I realize most will disagree.

 

[Orlaco]

Just now ?

There's still the same problem though... ...the main Texas school isn't having a problem in Texas.

 

[Orlaco]

I feel the same way about Cincy and Ohio recruiting. If we MUST expand, select BYU and Houston.

I don't get the love of Houston but BYU is fine. People bitching about travel should remember it's just a little longer playing the Boom Beach app. ....because we know these athletes are not using the 'lost time' to study.

 

[Rootmaster]

h... ...the main Texas school isn't having a problem in Texas.

I suppose you mean Texas. They haven't been doing so good in the last few years now have they? Bottom line is Big 12 lost some of its recruiting area when Missouri, Nebraska, Texas AM and Colorado bolted. The results are showing now. WVU didn't exactly feel the void. Shoring up Eastern Texas would be smart business. Acquiring a bigger presence in Ohio and Texas would be smart business. Planting a recruiting flag in the middle of SEC territory would be smart business. Surviving and thriving is much better than hiding and dying. It's smart business.

 

[ColoradoMountaineer]

I doubt the SEC heavyweights + FSU and Clemson are going to start losing recruits to Big 12 schools if USF and UCF are added. In fact, I'd say that it would hurt WVU because we now would have 1 or 2 additional P5 schools down there to recruit against.

I feel the same way about Cincy and Ohio recruiting. If we MUST expand, select BYU and Houston.

I realize most will disagree.

So just how many recruits did we sign out of Florida last year?

 

[michaelwalkerbr]

Southeast Texas was Big 12 territory until A&M went to the SEC. UH could bring it back as a P5 team playing B12 opponents, especially those from Texas.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

I doubt the SEC heavyweights + FSU and Clemson are going to start losing recruits to Big 12 schools if USF and UCF are added. In fact, I'd say that it would hurt WVU because we now would have 1 or 2 additional P5 schools down there to recruit against.

I feel the same way about Cincy and Ohio recruiting. If we MUST expand, select BYU and Houston.

I realize most will disagree.

BYU and Houston are the best choices for the Big 12, and WVU. It lets WVU have everyone east of the Mississippi who wants to play against Oklahoma and Texas.

Let's kick off the damn ball against Missouri!


M assacre Missouri

O bliterate Youngstown

U nnerve BYU

N euter Kansas State

T rample Texas Tech

A nnihilate TCU

I mpale Oklahoma State

N ail Kansas

E radicate Texas

E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma

R oll over Iowa State

S uffocate Baylor

 

[ColoradoMountaineer]

Recruiting.

According to story by tampabay.com, Texas recruiting for any Big 12-2=10 school has been slipping a lot and new grounds are needed...as a need to blunt SEC in traditional Big 12 areas.

"From 2004-06, the Big 12 dominated recruiting in talent-rich Texas, landing 113 of the state's top 150-ranked players; the SEC plucked only 13. But when Texas A&M bolted for the SEC, starting with the 2012 season, the Big 12's stranglehold disappeared. Over the past three classes, the Big 12 signed only 69 of Texas' top 150 players. The SEC took 54."

Here's the link: http://www.tampabay.com/sports/coll...12s-recruiting-footprint-into-florida/2291275

If the unwritten intent is to blunt the SEC then that also explains Houston and Memphis and even Tulane's consideration. Also, Cincinnati for Ohio. Maybe four...USF, UCF, Houston and Cincinnati. Who knows?

I wouldn't mind having a big 12 team in Florida to help reestablish the pipeline and presence the program has always had down there. One of the Reasons usf was invited to the Big East after Miami left was the Big East coaches felt they had to be in Florida. Having a bigger presence in Florida would really help us. We have better connections down there than most of the Big 12 schools have and Florida athletics are superior to Texas athletics.

 

[topdecktiger]

What does it take to "shore up" Texas? You already have UT in Austin, TCU in Fort Worth, and Baylor in Waco. If all the SEC had to do was get one team in the state and take over recruiting that much, there's a much bigger problem that getting Houston.

 

[Rootmaster]

If all the SEC had to do was get one team in the state and take over recruiting that much, there's a much bigger problem that getting Houston.

I actually think you are right about this. The Big 12-2=10 must expand and show some semblance of solidarity and longivity to recapture high school coaches attention for their "stars" at a level close to the SEC. May not have been your point...but your words are correct.