ICE murders another unarmed person

fatpiggy

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Was babbit on a public sidewalk? Oh no right she broke into a federal building and was told not to continue breaking down a door.

This person was on a public sidewalk and ICE approached him.
Police have to have probably cause to detain you. YOu know that right?
If a cop approaches me and starts asking me questions, thats a consensual encounter. If I say I don't want to talk. They can't force me to talk, they can't force me to stop, unless they have probable cause to do so. That I've committed a crime.
Walking around, blowing a whistle and filming cops, isn't illegal. Calling them names, isn't illegal.

Its a hire bar to pass to even suggest they had the right to arrest that person, let alone kill them.
They are behaving like Judge Dredd out in the streets and its in clear violation of people's rights.
Resisting arrest is illegal.

why do yall keep leaving that part out?

How long would it take @firegiver to peacefully submit to a law enforcement officer? 1 second? 2 seconds? That whole narrative is a joke that is factually incorrect as evidenced by video.
 

tboonpickens

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hey @fatpiggy do you think Stephen Miller/Bovino are telling the truth here?

That sure didn't look like a domestic terrorist hellbent on assassinating anyone to me...



Maximum damage? Are you ******* kidding me? He was trying to help a woman off the ground who had been attacked and sprayed.

 
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dpic73

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They told us Democrats would turn America into a show-your-papers society.

They told us Democrats would strip away the Second Amendment.

They told us Democrats would jail us for what we say.

They told us Democrats would drag us into more foreign wars.

They told us Democrats would cover up a child sex trafficking ring.

And then Republicans took power and decided to do all of it themselves.
 

fatpiggy

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hey @fatpiggy do you think Stephen Miller/Bovino are telling the truth here?

That sure didn't look like a domestic terrorist hellbent on assassinating anyone to me...



Maximum damage? Are you ******* kidding me? He was trying to help a woman off the ground who had been attacked and sprayed.


He just took his gun to the peaceful protester. Well within his rights, but it opens up the risk of something going wrong. And it did. He shouldn’t have been there. He should let law enforcement do their job. And he certainly shouldn’t resist arrest while armed. How did he get a firearm license without passing that on a test?

Anyway, ICE should probably double down on MN just so they can make sure the people know who has the authority to enforce the law around there.

 

fatpiggy

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Do most people who carry for self defense carry multiple magazines? I guess you never know when you may need 3 magazines in self defense.
 

firegiver

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Do most people who carry for self defense carry multiple magazines? I guess you never know when you may need 3 magazines in self defense.
Your still on the wrong side of history here. But its interesting to see how long you will defend this.
 

fatpiggy

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Your still on the wrong side of history here. But its interesting to see how long you will defend this.
When the protesters stop interfering, I’ll stop defending ICE.

My position is this. Federal agents have the right to enforce the law. Anything is possible, but I don’t think I’ll be on the wrong side.

In fact, it wasn’t that long ago that most of yall were on my side. Obama, Hillary Clinton, Schumer, ans many other top democrats recently held the positions that are being enforced today.
 
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firegiver

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When the protesters stop interfering, I’ll stop defending ICE.

My position is this. Federal agents have the right to enforce the law.
they were standing on a public sidewalk.. filming. That is not interference. The ICE agents approached them. What was the probable cause to arrest? If they don't have that, they will be stripped on Qualified Immunity, arrested and sent to prison for murder. It's happened before.
 

JohnHughsPartner

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You retard freaks do know there are rules to carrying, right?
Just because he has a license to carry doesnt mean he has a license to pull it out on law enforcement.
Add in the fact it was loaded with 2 magazines. He was there for war and he FAFO
 
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TigerRagRob

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Yeah that's murder. That latest video release is awful
They attempt to make an arrest and he resisted and pulled a gun. We cant live together. This country needs to split. Next election each state decides which Gov they want to live under. Seeing what VA is doing this has to happen. Leftist go live in your commie/socialist country of your own. Each state decides and all conservatives move to red states and leftist move to blue. Either that or its going to end up in a war very soon...
 
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TigerRagRob

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Insurrection Act is already justified imo.


I rather we just do a civil divorce. Each states vote which Gov they want to live with then everybody moves to a state that fits them. I want nothing more to do with leftist. I dont consider them brothers and sisters now. They are enemies...
 

fatpiggy

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they were standing on a public sidewalk.. filming. That is not interference. The ICE agents approached them. What was the probable cause to arrest? If they don't have that, they will be stripped on Qualified Immunity, arrested and sent to prison for murder. It's happened before.
Resisting arrest is 100%, while armed none the less, is interfering. Not 99.9%, 100%
 

dpic73

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They attempt to make an arrest and he resisted and pulled a gun. We cant live together. This country needs to split. Next election each state decides which Gov they want to live under. Seeing what VA is doing this has to happen. Leftist go live in your commie/socialist country of your own. Each state decides and all conservatives move to red states and leftist move to blue. Either that or its going to end up in a war very soon...
The way things are going, there won't be many of you left but I'm willing to let you have some land along the Mississippi/ Arkansas border.
 

firegiver

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Resisting arrest is 100%, while armed none the less, is interfering. Not 99.9%, 100%
Arrest for what?
You don't get to arrest for nothing, and resisting arrest is a secondary charge. You don't know much about our laws or is this new to you? If a cop has no probable cause to arrest you, how can they charge you with resisting?
 

TigerRagRob

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Your still on the wrong side of history here. But its interesting to see how long you will defend this.
Your side wanted this. Your side advocated for this calling people to confront ICE and carry weapons. What did you think would happen? Your side wanted this and now something none of us wants is about to happen. Congrats your stupid...
 

Moogy

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Resisting arrest is 100%, while armed none the less, is interfering. Not 99.9%, 100%

Now we see that your intellectual limitations aren't just limited to your (mis)understanding of free speech.

You just created a circular logic loop. So, to be arrested for interfering, you need to be resisting arrest for interfering.

Thinking is HARD. Quiet, piggy.
 

fatpiggy

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Arrest for what?
You don't get to arrest for nothing, and resisting arrest is a secondary charge. You don't know much about our laws or is this new to you? If a cop has no probable cause to arrest you, how can they charge you with resisting?
You get arrested and go to court and figure it out. Thats how this country is supposed to work. We have a justice system. Why did that as whole think it didn’t apply to him? Unfortunately, he paid for his life due to his arrrogance.

I wish he would stay home and let law enforcement do their jobs unimpeded. If he doesn’t like it then go run a campaign or vote.

You don’t get to pitch a fit, interfere with law enforcement, resist arrest.
 

dpic73

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So will you and the rest of us very soon... Remember that you wanted it...
History reminds us that authoritarian governments always fail .... so remember you'll be the on the side of the loser in the end, because of what you wanted.
 

TigerRagRob

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The way things are going, there won't be many of you left but I'm willing to let you have some land along the Mississippi/ Arkansas border.
Well a coward like you wont last too long so not worried about what you might would allow. Also if push came to shove my people would just take our lands back. We would be allied with conservatives...
 
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TigerRagRob

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Arrest for what?
You don't get to arrest for nothing, and resisting arrest is a secondary charge. You don't know much about our laws or is this new to you? If a cop has no probable cause to arrest you, how can they charge you with resisting?
Obstruction=primary resisting arrest=secondary