ICE murders another unarmed person
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No one cares that he brought a gun with him. He as well within his rights, until he violated the terms of his license.
He got shot because he interfered with an investigation, assaulted ICE agents, and resisted arrest all while agitators were fueling the fire and confusing the situation. He didn't deserve to die for assaulting an officer and resisting arrest, but it greatly increased the chances of something going wrong of which it did.
His death was at his own hands and could have been totally avoided if this NARCISSIST didn't think he gets to tell ICE how to do their jobs.
Wait, wait, wait. Clarifying question: you talking about Mark McCloskey in the pic or Alex Pretti? Because if the former, then you are correct; if the latter then you are lying. That's sort of the point.
So you're blind. I actually never considered that. Explains a lot.
I suppose I should say i think the majority of people don't care he brought a weapon. It is fairly irrelevant to the situation.
He should not have been interfereing with ICE. He had no right to interfere. He only had the right to peacefully protest. He broke the peace by shoving an officer in the line of work, possibly pulling a gun, and then resisted arrest and further interrupting ICE.
The gun is irrelevant to the point that you don't get to be violent because you don't like the way someone is doing their job. If you do, you risk something going very wrong, including death or incarceration.
According to science, it is not possible. And given the lies from this administration, we can’t take them at their word. But if it was true, they would continue to highlight it, which they aren’t.
Can you bite through a human finger as easily as a carrot? - BBC Science Focus Magazine
Go and get a carrot from the fridge and try it yourself.
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McCloskey was well within his rights to defend his home.
Pretti was not within his rights to pull a gun because he doesn't like the way ICE is doing their job. This is first grade level stuff.
He. Never. Pulled. His. Gun. Quit just saying stuff
OK. To me it is beside the point.
It wasn't the weapon that caused things to go awry. It went awry because of his behavior and the behavior of his fellow protesters. Things went wrong when he interfered with ICE operations, when he assaulted the officer, and when he resisted arrest. He didn't deserve to die for those things, but his decision to be armed resulted in his actions causing his death. It was a totally avoidable incident. Let ICE do their job and this never happens. He has no right to interfere.
It is unbelievably disingenuous to watch that video and say he was assaulting anyone. Literally every single action by the agent in that video was excessive force. Pushing a lady down (excessive), point blank spraying her in the face with pepper spray (excessive), then spraying the other people there including the eventual victim (excessive), and finally having five agents tackle him to the ground and beat on him, including pistol whipping him, while the entire time he's got one hand on his phone, both of them and his forearms on the ground, before they disarm him of the weapon that never left his holster until they removed it, whereupon they then shot him three times in the back, and then 7 total more times while he lay prone on the ground.
You're full of **** and you know you are. He wasn't even aggressive in his stance, etc as he blocked the pepper spray. At no point did he even act like a threat to a single agent there. The "tussle" didn't even start until they started to push and pull on him as he is helping the lady up who was pushed down and pepper sprayed in the face.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH possibly pulling a gun. There is video of 100% of the interaction from different angles.
How quickly things escalated from yesterday when he "struggled with officers for :13 seconds"
Is this the new maga talking point?
Man, I could write a novella on this. But let's just keep it to the video that Pretti NEVER PULLED A GUN, that ICE actually assaulted and battered another citizen, a female, by throwing her down, that Pretti went to help her, and that he was subsequently assaulted and battered by multiple ICE agents. Let's start there because those are all factually accurate statements. Most important, though, is that Pretti NEVER PULLED A GUN.
probably should just put fatpussy on ignore. we gain nothing from interacting with a blind cultist. he's totally worthless. probably a Russian bot anyway.
Let start with interfering. Do you agree he was interfering with ICE operations by blocking traffic?
Let's see what we can agree on and where we start to disagree. I can do it without name calling, i'll give you a fresh slate, see if you can do the same.
Which assisted living facility did you send this from? LMK and I’ll DoorDash you some crossword puzzles and bird seed
just breathtaking how corrupt Trump's regime is...imagine having the gall to actually put these demands in print for the whole world to see.
There are sworn affidavits he was directing traffic. Then when approached by agents, after a short discussion he heads to the sidewalk where he helps the lady being pushed down by the agent. At no point in any video does it show him blocking traffic. So it sounds to me like you're starting from a point of something not shown on any video or on any account I've seen, rather than what our eyes can see. IF he was blocking the road, then by the time the conflict happened, he had stopped, yes?
Here he is approximately :30 seconds before the shooting. He is standing in the middle of the street. His sole purpose for standing in the middle of the street is to disrupt ICE. There is no other reason for him to be standing in the middle of the street. He still has the opportunity to stay alive at this point. He can go stand on the other side of the street and let ICE do their job. We can agree that he has that opportunity at this point, correct?
He is in the middle of the road to film what's happening further down while waving traffic through, then quickly retreats to the sidewalk. Not a reason to push him to the ground, spray him in the face with pepper spray and murder him with ten bullets, seven after he was no longer moving. But that's what happens when you send your lib-hating, para-military army with no training to overwhelm a blue city.
Here he is a few seconds later. In the middle of traffic. Certainly not just standing there directing traffic. He is jaywalking down the middle of the street at a time ICE is trying to do enforcement work. This is interference. He still has the opportunity to go to the sidewalk and safely film.
He has the opportunity to stay alive? Do you hear yourself right now? And it's amazing how similar directing traffic and blocking traffic are, yes? Particularly with a screenshot of a single moment in time?
critical moment when he decides to go from "legal observer" to interferer. At this point he sees ICE trying to detain or push back the other protester. At this point he could let ICE do their job OR he can interfere. While armed, and against the terms of his carry license in MN, he gets involved in the mix and further interferes with ICE.
The directing traffic lie is corrected with video evidence. There is no evidence of him directing traffic. If so, please post a picture to back up your claims as i am doing.
His right hand where he has his gun also so it appears to the agents he's reaching for it. Simply follow the lawful commands and this doesnt happen...
Another critical moment. He is helping the one lady but then interferes with the ICE agent trying to gain crowd control over the other protester nearby. Another chance he had to de-escalate and remove himself from the situation.
Here he is leaving the one person and begining his interference with the ICE agent.
Here he is leaving the one person and begining his interference with the ICE agent.
Sigh. This was AFTER he had been shot in the back three times and that's his cellphone.