ICE murders another unarmed person
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Noem is about to be taken out with the Bovino trash.
Don't tell fatpussy and ned tho...they will surely be confused.
Republican State Senator from FL:
Don't tell fatpussy and ned tho...they will surely be confused.
Republican State Senator from FL:
lots of "whys" in there....
Of course it gives me pause...mainly because neither of these things had to happen.
Let me go to the 10 shots..I already posted that was "overkill" and I posted that the two shots through the driver side window in Good case were unnecessary in my opinion. But I did get an LOL from you on the agent being hit. Now I know I have poor vision, bit I saw the video in100%, 1/2 and 1/3 time and the car definitely hit him. But, I don't think his life was in danger from that car and the shooting was unnecessary. But I also posted that I don't know the law or the precedence in these cases.
I have also posted that we should have an independent investigations. I don't trust eith DHS or Minnesota to do it. Too much bias already on guilt or innocence from both.
Pretti should not have been in the street, but the ICE agents was in no danger from him (at that point he apparently did not know he was armed) and should have just turned his back and walked away. I have also posted that I think there is both a leadership and training problem with ICE in Minneapolis. And one more step, I posted that we need a moratorium on ICE actions in Mn. (looks like Trump took my advice)
Now on the warrant thing...as you know I'm not a lawyer (thank God) but from stories I've read, the lawyers in DHS have given the ok on administrative warrant under certain conditions (I won't remember them all): there has to be a deportation order, agents have to announce themselves, has to be between 6 and 10PM (I think it was PM). I believe there has already been a lawsuit filed by ACLU and others, so the validity of the DHS determination will be made in a court. Why it was kept secret is known only to the people who decided to keep it secret.
Hope that helps.....but, I've only posted all of this at least 10 times on here (might be slight exaggeration on number of times) and I still seem to be the one left leaning posters keep asking "doesn't that give you pause" or some similar query. Doesn't anybody read my brilliant, Nobel level writings?
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I haven't either. But Urhuckelberry and apparently dpic73 have better eyes than I do. I see what looks like a gun in the grey coated guy, but I don't know if it's his or pretti's . They are pretty certain it's pretti's
but haven't there been posters who are sure they see a gun in pretti's left hand?
not to be argumentative, but what is the purpose of the National Guard to MN to be...I know they're passing out coffee and donuts, but my assumption would be protection of Whipple center, crowd control.
someone show ned and fatpussy this frame by frame analysis by the BBC. they clearly show that these nazis executed this man with no justification. someone tell ned to get out his bifocals and watch the part where the one agent clearly removes the gun from the victim's holster around his back.
i dare anyone to watch this and claim this wasn't a public execution. the analysis begins at 4:04 mark which i have set up here...
i dare anyone to watch this and claim this wasn't a public execution. the analysis begins at 4:04 mark which i have set up here...
would you remember this and jump in when the poster, can't remember who, might be nytigerfan, posts that it's republicans who control whether or not the government gets shut down. I don't think he still gets the 60 votes cloture requirement
damn, trump reads the board, lots of us suggested a de escalation.....
It's easy to see unless you don't want to, like yesterday. The agent in the grey jacket walks up empty handed, reaches over and pulls it out of his back holster and walks away with the gun. You can also see Alex's hands on the ground. Now don't say again that you didn't see either of these things please.
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Here's a freeze frame of the agent grabbing the gun from his holster while he's folded over.
OK, Ned. That's a pretty good post. And BTW, the reason we liberals on this Board may seem to pick on you is that you are virtually the only Trump supporter who truly engages in any meaningful way. Most of the rest of them simply say nothing, offer insults, limit their response to something like "You've got TDS" or "Go key a Tesla," etc.
The memo advising that entries into homes on the bases of an administrative warrant (that would mean a warrant approved by someone at DHS or ICE) rather than a judicial warrant (i.e., a warrant signed off on by a judge or magistrate) stands on extremely shaky ground. No such ruling has ever come out of the Supreme Court, nor (to my knowledge) any federal District Court or Circuit Court of Appeal. Which is probably why they kept the memo under wraps. But who knows? This Roberts Court is extremely supportive of Trump and his agenda, so maybe it will bend the 4th Amendment to recognize the use of administrative warrants for home entries by ICE and other law enforcement. If it does, Americans had better be prepared for some serious abuses of that authority. Imagine giving a police department - ANY police department - authority to issue its own search warrants.
I think it was more likely the calls from a host of GOP legislators that did the trick. At least Erick Erickson believes that, and he is usually pretty informed when it comes to Republican political developments.
free article and comprehensive breakdown for blind @baltimorened and fatpussy. not sure if they can actually read, but here's some useful info...
They were standing on their own property right outside the front door. Typical lib twisting a story to fit their agenda.
ok, how about this, can immigration judge issue warrants? Trump just appointed 600 military jAG officers as immigration judges. He could just direct them to ride with ICe sign a warrant and required. Or doesn't the system work like that?
Who says I'm a trump supporter. I voted for him because I just couldn't vote for kamala. I like some of his policies and not some others. I have already expounded on this area other times, don't want to repeat it. Unlike some others I'm not a straight "follow the leader" person.
I think it's splitting hairs to reject the "Trump Supporter" label when you literally did that. But I get what you're saying.
did what?
As I said, I'm significantly different than most of those on the board who see only their party positions as "truth". I support some Republican position and some I don't
So, you're admitting that your own logic is over the line.
You're SO comfortable being an inhuman POS when it applies to others ... but as soon as it's you, or someone who you like ... your very own logic is now "over the line."
That should register in your noggin and get you to reflect on how you act and think ... but we know it won't.
You know what happens when you're a 5 foot 4 inch little b i tch who wears nazi gear?
You get fired, and sent out to the pasture for retirement. Dumb lil c u nt. Good riddance
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/greg-bovino-demoted-minneapolis-border-patrol/685770/
You get fired, and sent out to the pasture for retirement. Dumb lil c u nt. Good riddance
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/greg-bovino-demoted-minneapolis-border-patrol/685770/
Supported him in the past. An unenthusiastic vote counts that same as an enthusiastic vote. But like I said, I understand what you're saying.
1, IMHO, the most beneficial aspect of requiring that search warrants be issued by judges or magistrates is that they are independent or the agency seeking the warrant. Imagine having warrants being issues by administrative judges, which I interpret to mean judges who are employees of the agency which would be seeking their approval of said warrants? So if they don't approve a sufficient percentage of warrants, are they subject to discipline or removal? I realize that the military employs a system of Judge Advocate General ("JAG") officers. I don't pretend to know much about how the JAG Corps works. They are officers and they hold ranks, which makes them subordinate, I believe, to higher ranking non-attorney military officers, but I imagine that the military takes some pains to insulate the JAG Corps from influence by non-attorney military brass. If they did not, there would be little respect for the actions or decisions of military judges.
A second beneficial aspect of requiring that search warrants be issued by judges or magistrates is that judges and magistrates typically have a fairly good understanding of the law and the Constitution, and what constitutes "probable cause."
2. You obviously depart from most of the more ardent Trump Supporters on this Board, but I think it verges on guffaw inducing for you to maintain that you are not a Trump supporter.
lol they took away his twitter access. get ready to learn Chinese buddy
you know it's bad when other murderers break with this regime.
It is hilarious to me that the breaking point really did come over guns. MAGA could explain away the big government thing, they could explain away "resisting big government tyranny and overreach," they could explain away federal agents murdering citizens in cold blood, but once it became "he had a gun, so he deserved to die," other conservatives were NOT having it. The NRA speaking out against it probably helped.
Good to know where the line actually is with republicans in this country- guns.
Think ole boy just learned a lot about trump/MAGA loyalty. Put himself in harms way too once the midterms are done cause he doesn’t have the precious immunity that orange hitler does.
I mean, why would that happen when a violent, bloodthirsty assassin brandishes a firearm and tries to massacre hard working, patriotic ICE agents?
