The failures of the football program get the most media atttention.The new athletic director must also cope with the lack of success from the rest of the sport teams against B1G Ten competition.The lack of urgency to win at a high level has been evident since joining the league.Its hard to maintain /expand the fan base and donor supporrt with mediocre team results.
If your not embarrassed then U R the problem
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The lack of success directly correlates with RU's poor record of donations. The move to the Big Ten was supposed to signal a new era for the school and it required a lot of support to get there by the school and fans. Unfortunately, no big money stepped in and the program will eventually be the league doormat in most every sport.
Unfortunately we got Julie Hermann Munster and Pat Twist and Spout Hobbs.
I would be all for moving on from Schiano if it wasn't for the poor performance from the fan base when it comes to financially supporting the program. I'm sure we will find a body to want to coach here, but the odds of it being anyone worth the money will be low. A decent new coach will look at our NIL funds and will likely just say no thank you, I'm not a miracle maker. Instead of paying Schiano $24 million on what is left on his contract plus a 4 year contract on a new coach, maybe we could use that money to attract better players instead and just give Schiano the next 4 years to turn things around. If he doesn't we get to move on with another coach.
I don't fully blame Schiano for not putting a competitive team. The fans who are also supposed to financially support similarly to other B10 teams are also not doing their part. We don't have the funds to get good talent on the field. By firing the current coach, we would put ourselves $24+ million in the hole. Instead, use that money to bring more talent.One last thing, we finally got a decent QB but a solid ground of WRs, but sadly we couldn't afford to attract better talent at the defensive side.
Dr. John indeed. We need him, Richie Policastro and Bruce Van Ness back (unfortunately, all from the grave).
I think if we get a coach thst excites the fanbase and shows he has the potential to win - the fan base will step up.
As we’ve been saying since the 2000s..RU football is a sleeping giant.
the hard part is of course convincing a coach of this.
"3. All that being said, to address the elephant in the room that has gotten larger with each loss this season: no matter how bad this season gets and how loud the noise gets around the program, Schiano is not going anywhere in the foreseeable future.
Among the many reasons that is true, the most obvious is the fact it is not financially feasible. The Scarlet Knights would owe him $22,485,938 if they fired him after this fall, then have to pay another eight-figure amount to the rest of his coaching staff AND spend many more millions to replace all of them during one of the most chaotic coaching carousels in college football history.
Unless a billionaire donor falls from the sky to write one of the biggest checks the school has ever seen, or President William Tate — who recently called Schiano “per capita ... the best coach in America” — opens up the University coffers to an athletic department in massive debt, or Schiano suddenly decides he’s had enough, he will be back for a seventh season. And considering he would be owed $17,296,875 if he is fired after 2026, unless next fall is a compete catastrophe, he’ll almost certainly be back for an eighth season, too."
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Except the real reason RU is the sleeping giant is because for decades the admin and alums tried to do everything on the cheap.
The admin since 2.0 has rectified their end of the equation and given football lots of money for staff and operations. The alums haven’t met them and done their part.
You can blame Hobbs for not doing anything on NIL. However, for a fan base that considers itself a “public” Ivy do you real need someone to tell you donate? It should be apparent but no one steps forward. This the coach you envision isn’t going to touch a rotting corpse with a 10 pole.
Unless you act like the big boys, you’re not going to attract the level of coaching and talent needed. What is needed is alums with vision to invest in the program now to get what you want.
Bruce. After college, and after he retired from Montreal in the CFL, we ran on the same lacrosse midfield line for 2 years in the old USCLA. Great guy and one of the main reasons for my interest in Rutgers football.
I think we have a competent leader now that knows how to get it done, we are finally acting like big boys
You don't get it, in order to act like the big boys alums need to step up and fund the AD.
Didn't happen when they expanded the stadium.
Didn't happen when they had the B1G Build campaign
Didn't happen for NIL.
Until we start seeing people step up with significant contributions ($25m+) RU fans are all talk. Anyone making a contribution of this size will probably be the first time in the AD's history. So I'll stay skeptical until it happens.
You don’t get it!
You have to win to get funded! (Or have a big name proven coach come in and get funded)
Expanded stadium but lost so no funding
Joined the Big but lost so no funding
Nil campaign: NO one believes in Greg no funding!
Until you start winning funding won’t come!
#Gregmustgo
How often was Indiana winning before their alums stepped up for Cignetti?
They had one good season during COVID. It was their equivalent to RU's 2006 season. Then they went backwards which is historically where they've been.
But their alums didn't just step up for football, they have also stepped up to fund basketball but Woodsen crapped the bed even with that support.
SMU was doing nothing and then bought their way into the ACC and bought a CFP team.
But keep waiting on the "winning" before funds should come the AD's way, we'll have paranormal investigators contact you when it happens since you'll be long gone from this earth.
Answer honestly. If the alumni presented the AD with a $500,000,000 check tomorrow, do you have faith that this institution would know what to do with it? That we’d have the ability to identify and hire a Cignetti-type coach?
'05 7-5
'06 11-2
'07 8-5
'08 8-5
'09 9-4
About as good as any stretch in the last 40 years.
Did the money come in?
If money doesn't come in until you get to the Ohio St. level D1'football wouldn't exist
Yes that stretch got the stadium expansion built and the upgraded facilities! Further proving my point
Wasn't that financed with bonds issued by the university as opposed to donations by "whales" and/or others?
You think a President and AD that came from LSU don't know what to do with that type of money? Answer honestly now.
Exactly! No money came in for that, they had to borrow it. And they got shafted by the state and Corzine when the amount was reduced from ~$132 million to ~$101 million. The plans had to be dialed back due to that.
I don’t think those two are responsible for making LSU athletics what it is but ok.
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Nice deflection, now answer honestly. You won't though because it blows up your original statement.
Now we’re playing on semantics. Do we finance the stadium without on field success?
The money was there and we built and upgraded because of on field success.
With all of these massive firings in college football all of the universities are being creative on how to foot those buyout bills. They are not all donor based firings.
NO ONE! Not fan, corporate, or board of governors believes in Greg.
You want to raise money. Bring in a coach ppl believe in and WIN!
Whether they all currently believe in Greg is open for debate. But they sure as hell did back then. And although you try to obfuscate, the fact is that the donor money did NOT come in with that success
Do I trust them more than Hobbs and Barchi? Sure. But they are also coming from an institution who thought that Brian Kelly was a good fit in Baton Rogue when most of the CFB watching world knew it wasn't.
There are universities with established name brand athletic departments and all of the financial resources in the world who can't identify the right coach. Why should we have blind faith that these two will at Rutgers of all places?
I'm really losing faith on Rutgers. i always thought RU fans were going to step up and support the program because they want to win. But it turns out that the majority of fans are just talk and tight with their wallets.
Nothing is guaranteed, only death and taxes. Look at Florida, Penn State, LSU, and Auburn. They all fired their coaches even though they have the resources (money), history (championships), and "experience" at evaluating coaches. It is obviously more of an art/luck than a science.
Exactly.. Rutgers fans want championships but can't get themselves to do what it takes to win. Stop complaining and contribute to NIL. Start with $50 or $25 oer month. Start with something or stop complaining about us not being successful.