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BigMotherTucker

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How could anyone be pissed about the pink cleats to start with? Are you telling me that high school officials couldnt tell the dipshit coach to throttle back? After a month and threatened with a law suit the coach "welcomes the kid back with hugs" AND the kid agreed to wear his normal cleats the coach feels its appropriate to tell the kid to piss off before his come back game.

1) coach should be fired
2) school officials should be fired
3) kid profit
4) kid donates a shitload of money to the cancer research

/My money is on the kid
 
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Xenomorph

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Feb 15, 2007
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...the school administrators in Fulton who, when faced with a lesbian bringing a girl to the prom, thought the best way to avoid a huge scandal was to simply cancel the prom.
 
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tossedoff

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Feb 23, 2008
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If administrators/the coach hadn't been stupid and made a big deal out of it, no mountain would have been made out of a molehill. It makes no sense if this is the entire story.
 
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pmgostate

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Mar 3, 2008
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From everything I have read, the story is pretty one sided. I have a feeling that there is possibly more to that story than the pink cleats.</p>
 
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GhostDawg.sixpack

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Nov 21, 2008
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So what does our youth learn from this?

1. Leaders are not accountable to follow through on their agreements.
2. The "establishment" will likely back him up.
3. If you want to makeprogress, file a lawsuit.

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Coach34

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I didnt give a **** what they wore as long as they performed

(and I am in no way saying I was as good of a coach as Rex Ryan)
 
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patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
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He said that at Alabama they had a lot of rules and they were all terrified of Bear Bryant. Then when he got to the Raiders, there was only one rule. Show up at 1:00 on Sunday ready to play.
 
DawgatAuburn

DawgatAuburn

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I suspect your coaching was more akin to Chevy Chase, and your comedy more along the lines of Rex Ryan.

Rex is pretty funny though.
 
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AllAmericanDawg

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Sep 12, 2005
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And it's standard practice for most teams that if you don't practice, you don't dress/play.

He hasn't been at practice for a month. Of course, it would have been easier to let him dress and just not play him but then coach could just grab all the students that haven't practiced for the last month and dress them too. Great message to send the rest of the guys that do what you ask of them and were at practice the entire time.
 
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patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
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He should have just let the kid wear the pick cleats. What was the big deal? Especially after he'd let him wear non-school color cleats before. Hell, all 90 or so Madison Central players wore pick cleat covers the whole month of October.

By reneging on the settlement, he's going to cost his school district a good bit of money that I'm sure they can't afford, cause there is no way the school district wins this lawsuit.
 
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patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
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Kid puts on pink cleats, coach says hell no you're not wearing those, player walks off. But you're making a huge stretch with the no practice - no dress/play thing. For one thing, the two sides reached a legal settlement that the kid COULD dress/play. For another, he'sa kicker. It's not like he spend any time practicing with the rest of the team anyway.
 
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AllAmericanDawg

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Sep 12, 2005
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that would be the easy path/least path of resistance.

Agreement was that he could dress, not play. After practicing a week, I'm sure he could dress.

And kickers, although usually wierdos, don't get special treatment. They can practice like everyone else.
 
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patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
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By not letting him even dress, he has no leg to stand on here. The school district will lose the lawsuit and they will pay. All because the coach is a dickhead.</p>
 
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AssEndDawg

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Aug 1, 2007
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AllAmericanDawg said:
<span class="post-title">I was told he walked out/quit. </span>So the month off was really his decision.
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believe some random guy on a message board who "heard" something versus the newspaper article that someone actually checked into and the legal agreement which the school and the kid agreed to. I'm gonna have to go with the newspaper and the legal agreement. If the kid had walked off the team the school would have told the newspaper that because this makes them look like complete ********. They wouldn't have to reinstate him, they would just say he can come back, you only reinstate if you kicked him off the team.

The story you "heard" doesn't make sense.
 
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shoeless joe

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Aug 27, 2009
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i know the coach and the kid involved. i'm not friends with either one so i'll try to remain objective. and i don't want to get on here and bash a 17 year old kid, but this is simply a case of the player not following specific instructions from the coach. anyone who has ever worked in the simpson county school districtknows that the parents absolutely try to go against any authority in the schools, specifically in mendenhall. it was my experience there that the parents act as immaturely as the kids when something doesn't happen exactly to their liking.
the coach told him he couldn't wear the cleats, the kid did anyway, instead of facing his punishment the kid quits and then his parents want to sue the school?! the only way to be successful there as a coach is to stick to your guns and run your program the best way you see fit. and believe me, if the coach had let the kid do whatever he wanted after he was given specific instructions he would have lost the whole team. not that i agree with how the coach handled it but i definitely see why he handled originally the way he did.
 
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patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
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There was a litigation settlement that the kid was going to be back on the team and the coach ignored it. I can tell you right now that the judge is not going to be amused to see this case back before him after it had been settled. The school district is DOA when they go back to court. The school district's insurance company also isn't going to be happy about this. In fact, they've probably got grounds to deny coverage.
 
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jakldawg

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May 1, 2006
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Kickers: sometimes, they're just weird.
Coaches: sometimes, they're just stubborn.
 
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Todd4State

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Mar 3, 2008
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because he has some ridiculous OCD rules. This wasn't a kid trying to be defiant, this was a kid trying to pay tribute to a legitimately worthy cause. I don't know the kid, but maybe, just maybe he decided to wear those cleats because he had a family member like his Mom or Grandmother who had to fight breast cancer.

Coaches also have to be willing to make some concessions and allow the players to do some things to actually foster loyalty to the coach, and that actually can make it easier on the coach when he is trying to enforce rules that actually matter, or when he is trying to get them to play as a team.

I don't know that I would fire this coach over this if I was a school administrator, but I would certainly have a long talk with him.
 
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AllAmericanDawg

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AssEndDawg said:
AllAmericanDawg said:
<span class="post-title">I was told he walked out/quit. </span>So the month off was really his decision.
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believe some random guy on a message board who "heard" something versus the newspaper article that someone actually checked into and the legal agreement which the school and the kid agreed to. I'm gonna have to go with the newspaper and the legal agreement. If the kid had walked off the team the school would have told the newspaper that because this makes them look like complete ********. They wouldn't have to reinstate him, they would just say he can come back, you only reinstate if you kicked him off the team.

The story you "heard" doesn't make sense.
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Your choice is whateveryou want it to be. I can see why you might be AssEndDawg b/c that's what you're thinking with. I never said "I heard". Isaid I was told and I was told by the coach. Heshould be a good source. The kid didn't want to follow directions and then didn't want the punishment with it. Good thing your newspaper article checked into it...never been acase ofthemedia slanting a story to sell newspapers or commercials, right? Story doesn't have to make sense...it's dumb. Kid did whathe wanted to and is paying the price. Coach stuck to hischoice and may pay the price as well. Someonesmelled thelitigation $$$ and jumped all over it...kinda like a lesbian and the prom.
 
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shoeless joe

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Aug 27, 2009
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but, knowing the coach and the kid and having been down there coaching very recently i can tell you that this is a case where the kid blatantly didn't follow the rules. and at that particular school if ONEkid gets away with it then you have lost the entire team. i've seen it, i've experienced it. and the whole going to the district with a law suit is a threat that is thrown around down there almost on a weekly basis (not exaggerating).

it really is sad. there is a ton of talent down there in all sports but the attitude of the players and parents is this: let's take the easiest road possible, then when things don't work out lets find someone other than ourselves to blame rather than stepping up our own work ethic.

and my views may be biased because i've experienced it but like i said the kid didn't follow the rules and then he chose to quit. i don't blame the coach at all, however after the settlement it should have been honored unless something else happened.
 
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olddawgfan

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Nov 20, 2007
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I say no pink cleats when the gang members stop wearing their do-rags representin their gangs during the game. Just as simple as that.

@shoeless .. lawsuits are thrown around weekly in most school districts so Simpson County doesn't own that category. Parents are dicks and coaches are dicks and sometimes kids are dicks. Administrators are idiots .. case closed.
 
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AssEndDawg

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AllAmericanDawg said:
Your choice is whateveryou want it to be. I can see why you might be AssEndDawg b/c that's what you're thinking with. I never said "I heard". Isaid I was told and I was told by the coach. Heshould be a good source. The kid didn't want to follow directions and then didn't want the punishment with it. Good thing your newspaper article checked into it...never been acase ofthemedia slanting a story to sell newspapers or commercials, right? Story doesn't have to make sense...it's dumb. Kid did whathe wanted to and is paying the price. Coach stuck to hischoice and may pay the price as well. Someonesmelled thelitigation $$$ and jumped all over it...kinda like a lesbian and the prom.
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Is the prick coach who is going to get the school reamed in court? You admit that and you want to lecture me about reliable sources? And really, you want to parse between "I was told" and "You heard"? I'm pretty sure if someone told you something you had to hear it. But none of this matters at all, there was a legal agreement and this dickhead coach broke it. He should be fired immediately and the school should reinstate the kid, let him play, and donate some money in order to try to get the settlement back on track. I could give a rats *** who this guy is but the day he thinks he's bigger than a legal agreement the school district makes to settle a lawsuit, regardless of who is at fault, is the day his *** should be out looking for another job.
 
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