Im with cal!

Wildcats1st

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I haven’t been bullish on the man but he stated the truth. While Barney has been ad we ve missed 3 tournaments. It’s evident Barney puts all sports on the same plane but the truth is UK athletics is led by our rich bb tradition. Does that mean we can’t be good at other things? Hell no! But a dose of reality doesn’t hurt things. Stoops on the other hand should have just ignored Cals comments. He’s done a great job with the fb team and we are on level with other SEC programs which is great. However UK is a basketball school and those facilities for the basketball team should get a makeover every year.

why barney is pumping the brakes is no more than his trying to assert himself. Our bb program is the flagship of all of our programs. We could lose the next 5 years and fb have 10 win seasons and it wouldn’t change. It’s the same with UNCheat with UCLA, IU on and on. Trying to pretend and deny out basketball program to make some sort of point is ridiculous. Stoops needed to stick to his time and ignore cal. Barney needed to stay out of it.

Put me down as one who was energized by Cals statement. It shows he knows the stakes. I love the football team too but Barney has left basketball to waste under his watch. Makes me think we are lucky to have cal or Barney would have gone through 3 other coaches by now in Cals tenure. It took a comittee to convince Barney cal was the right choice. Given his own we would have ended up with more billy c Gs.
 
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I haven’t been bullish on the man but he stated the truth. While Barney has been ad we ve missed 3 tournaments. It’s evident Barney puts all sports on the same plane but the truth is UK athletics is led by our rich bb tradition. Does that mean we can’t be good at other things? Hell no! But a dose of reality doesn’t hurt things. Stoops on the other hand should have just ignored Cals comments. He’s done a great job with the fb team and we are on level with other SEC programs which is great. However UK is a basketball school and those facilities for the basketball team should get a makeover every year.

why barney is pumping the brakes is no more than his trying to assert himself. Our bb program is the flagship of all of our programs. We could lose the next 5 years and fb have 10 win seasons and it wouldn’t change. It’s the same with UNCheat with UCLA, IU on and on. Trying to pretend and deny out basketball program to make some sort of point is ridiculous. Stoops needed to stick to his time and ignore cal. Barney needed to stay out of it.

Put me down as one who was energized by Cals statement. It shows he knows the stakes. I love the football team too but Barney has left basketball to waste under his watch. Makes me think we are lucky to have cal or Barney would have gone through 3 other coaches by now in Cals tenure. It took a comittee to convince Barney cal was the right choice. Given his own we would have ended up with more billy c Gs.

I'm not happy at all with Cal's statement because I think Stoops can easily get a better job and now he can leave and have a reason to do so and a clear conscience about it.
 

sluggercatfan

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I'm not happy at all with Cal's statement because I think Stoops can easily get a better job and now he can leave and have a reason to do so and a clear conscience about leaving should he do so.
Correct!!! Who in their right mind, including CCC himself , think he could leave and be paid half what he makes now. Just a narcissistic blow hard. Stop running your down mouth and blaming the football program because you're not getting your job done. Most overrated, overpaid coach in the history of all sports ever !!!
 

sluggercatfan

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I haven’t been bullish on the man but he stated the truth. While Barney has been ad we ve missed 3 tournaments. It’s evident Barney puts all sports on the same plane but the truth is UK athletics is led by our rich bb tradition. Does that mean we can’t be good at other things? Hell no! But a dose of reality doesn’t hurt things. Stoops on the other hand should have just ignored Cals comments. He’s done a great job with the fb team and we are on level with other SEC programs which is great. However UK is a basketball school and those facilities for the basketball team should get a makeover every year.

why barney is pumping the brakes is no more than his trying to assert himself. Our bb program is the flagship of all of our programs. We could lose the next 5 years and fb have 10 win seasons and it wouldn’t change. It’s the same with UNCheat with UCLA, IU on and on. Trying to pretend and deny out basketball program to make some sort of point is ridiculous. Stoops needed to stick to his time and ignore cal. Barney needed to stay out of it.

Put me down as one who was energized by Cals statement. It shows he knows the stakes. I love the football team too but Barney has left basketball to waste under his watch. Makes me think we are lucky to have cal or Barney would have gone through 3 other coaches by now in Cals tenure. It took a comittee to convince Barney cal was the right choice. Given his own we would have ended up with more billy c Gs.
Part of the CCC a$$ kisser club.
 

Wildcats1st

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I’m with UK athletics

The fact that half the threads here are basketball vs. football shows how idiotic Cal’s comments were.
No it shows that someone still recognizes the gravity of our basketball tradition. The man is calling out Barney for his lackadaisical approach to the greatest basketball program of all time. Barney should have just given cal assurances that the facilities would be updated every year. That’s what UK basketball has earned.
 
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No it shows that someone still recognizes the gravity of our basketball tradition. The man is calling out Barney for his lackadaisical approach to the greatest basketball program of all time. Barney should have just given cal assurances that the facilities would be updated every year. That’s what UK basketball has earned.
It's also earned NCAA bids and not losing in the first round to Saint Peters. It also shouldn't make a habit of being bent over by Tennessee imo.
 

Wildcats1st

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It's also earned NCAA bids and not losing in the first round to Saint Peters. It also shouldn't make a habit of being bent over by Tennessee imo.
I totally agree but to me it isn’t so much about cal as it is dedicating annual resources to our flagship program. Whoever the coach they should never feel like they publicly have to plea for updated facilities. I’m of the mind that UK athletics should have an ad who is a better steward of our tradition. It doesn’t have to be done at the expense of other sports. Barney is so passive aggressive that he can’t take cal on after a losing season he has to use the players training facility to take him on. It’s terrible management and no one has been worse for uk basketball than Barney
 

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Football revenue is about 27% of the budget, basketball 17%.
Expenditures on football about 17%, basketball 15%.
100+ kids and coaches vs 20 or so.
So wh is misrepresented?
 
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I haven’t been bullish on the man but he stated the truth. While Barney has been ad we ve missed 3 tournaments. It’s evident Barney puts all sports on the same plane but the truth is UK athletics is led by our rich bb tradition. Does that mean we can’t be good at other things? Hell no! But a dose of reality doesn’t hurt things. Stoops on the other hand should have just ignored Cals comments. He’s done a great job with the fb team and we are on level with other SEC programs which is great. However UK is a basketball school and those facilities for the basketball team should get a makeover every year.

why barney is pumping the brakes is no more than his trying to assert himself. Our bb program is the flagship of all of our programs. We could lose the next 5 years and fb have 10 win seasons and it wouldn’t change. It’s the same with UNCheat with UCLA, IU on and on. Trying to pretend and deny out basketball program to make some sort of point is ridiculous. Stoops needed to stick to his time and ignore cal. Barney needed to stay out of it.

Put me down as one who was energized by Cals statement. It shows he knows the stakes. I love the football team too but Barney has left basketball to waste under his watch. Makes me think we are lucky to have cal or Barney would have gone through 3 other coaches by now in Cals tenure. It took a comittee to convince Barney cal was the right choice. Given his own we would have ended up with more billy c Gs.
Here we go again. This is just wrong on so many levels. Triple C could have pled his case a million different ways and made a good point. Instead he throws a dagger at Stoops and the FB team. These guys are ‘supposed’ to be on the same team. I don’t know why some of you don’t get it.
 

Wildcats1st

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Here we go again. This is just wrong on so many levels. Triple C could have pled his case a million different ways and made a good point. Instead he throws a dagger at Stoops and the FB team. These guys are ‘supposed’ to be on the same team. I don’t know why some of you don’t get it.
He didn’t throw any daggers he called uk a basketball school. He didn’t trounce fb. If saban called alabama a fb school or the guy at Clemson no one would say boo. I honestly don’t understand the backlash. Can any sane person call UK anything other than a basketball school? It is what it is. I’m sorry to stoops that our fb tradition isn’t up to par but we as fans know UK football has been a historical nightmare. Stoops has a chance to change that and getting his back up about it was ridiculous. I don’t care that we are in the sec that doesn’t make uk a fb school. Win some titles mark. You want to change the perception the facts then go win some national titles and change it.
 

bkingUK

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I'm not happy at all with Cal's statement because I think Stoops can easily get a better job and now he can leave and have a reason to do so and a clear conscience about it.
There’s been a whole lot of dumb threads on this board for decades so not sure that’s a good barometer.

Radical thought here, but maybe while people are caught up in perception and culture wars, none of this really impacts anything…like at all…

Hot take. Incredibly boring take. But also, it’s just internet media dramatainment.

If UK football nose dives because Calipari stated the football program isn’t UGA or Bama then the program isn’t close to being where it should be. At the end of the day, it’s all true.
 

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He didn’t throw any daggers he called uk a basketball school. He didn’t trounce fb. If saban called alabama a fb school or the guy at Clemson no one would say boo. I honestly don’t understand the backlash. Can any sane person call UK anything other than a basketball school? It is what it is. I’m sorry to stoops that our fb tradition isn’t up to par but we as fans know UK football has been a historical nightmare. Stoops has a chance to change that and getting his back up about it was ridiculous. I don’t care that we are in the sec that doesn’t make uk a fb school. Win some titles mark. You want to change the perception the facts then go win some national titles and change it.

I’m so glad someone here has some sense! I agree 100%.

Make the playoffs at least Mark, then you can talk. No one, literally no one other than Stoops himself, has said UK is a football school.
 

sk73

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It is well documented that the Basketball team had a losing season year before last. People seem to forget that the football team was 4-6 (5-6) year before last. The reason? This is a basketball school... Still, Cal shouldn't have said so during an interview.
Stoops has built a middle of the road SEC program but we should not forget that a chance was taken on him. He was and is paid very well and the football facilities are light years ahead of when Rich Brooks was here. Brooks proved we could build something here but Joker couldn't keep it going.
 

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I was expecting a picture of Cal and Sung-Jae. Thought maybe they played a round or did some charity work together? Oh well, I guess I’m with Cal too.
 

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Football revenue is about 27% of the budget, basketball 17%.
Expenditures on football about 17%, basketball 15%.
100+ kids and coaches vs 20 or so.
So wh is misrepresented?
I'm a football first guy, but I 'm amazed how many people think basketball is the money cow at UK. Also that UK pays all of Cal's salary, when in reality the school only pays about 5% of his total salary. What Cal said just came across very odd, especially using nsmes of other schools, but what he said is true. I'm proud of both football and badketball as well as other sport's at UK. After observing things for a couple of days Barney wasn't far off about the media, they're like a bunch of piranhas on a feeding frenzy at the moment.
 

rick64

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Had Cal worded it differently referring to the history of UK b-ball instead of saying Kentucky being ”basketball school” then this would’ve been a non issue. Even though what he said was a true statement, it wasn’t very strategic internally and it certainly struck a nerve with Stoops which is understandable. He has to fight it constantly with recruiting so the last thing he needs are the mens b-ball coach saying it.
 
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megablue

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He didn’t throw any daggers he called uk a basketball school. He didn’t trounce fb. If saban called alabama a fb school or the guy at Clemson no one would say boo. I honestly don’t understand the backlash. Can any sane person call UK anything other than a basketball school? It is what it is. I’m sorry to stoops that our fb tradition isn’t up to par but we as fans know UK football has been a historical nightmare. Stoops has a chance to change that and getting his back up about it was ridiculous. I don’t care that we are in the sec that doesn’t make uk a fb school. Win some titles mark. You want to change the perception the facts then go win some national titles and change it.
Vandy is in the SEC !!
 

UKortho

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Here we go again. This is just wrong on so many levels. Triple C could have pled his case a million different ways and made a good point. Instead he throws a dagger at Stoops and the FB team. These guys are ‘supposed’ to be on the same team. I don’t know why some of you don’t get it.
Cal needs to stop talking- especially when his comments divide the fan base. I think he is going to get worse before he moves on.
 

kl40504_rivals

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I haven’t been bullish on the man but he stated the truth. While Barney has been ad we ve missed 3 tournaments. It’s evident Barney puts all sports on the same plane but the truth is UK athletics is led by our rich bb tradition. Does that mean we can’t be good at other things? Hell no! But a dose of reality doesn’t hurt things. Stoops on the other hand should have just ignored Cals comments. He’s done a great job with the fb team and we are on level with other SEC programs which is great. However UK is a basketball school and those facilities for the basketball team should get a makeover every year.

why barney is pumping the brakes is no more than his trying to assert himself. Our bb program is the flagship of all of our programs. We could lose the next 5 years and fb have 10 win seasons and it wouldn’t change. It’s the same with UNCheat with UCLA, IU on and on. Trying to pretend and deny out basketball program to make some sort of point is ridiculous. Stoops needed to stick to his time and ignore cal. Barney needed to stay out of it.

Put me down as one who was energized by Cals statement. It shows he knows the stakes. I love the football team too but Barney has left basketball to waste under his watch. Makes me think we are lucky to have cal or Barney would have gone through 3 other coaches by now in Cals tenure. It took a comittee to convince Barney cal was the right choice. Given his own we would have ended up with more billy c Gs.
I'm with UK.
 
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anon1751545683

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Cal is 100% correct. Maybe he shouldn't have told the truth because PC candy asses can't handle the truth but it's still the truth. UK is a basketball school. Always has been, always will be.

Cal was also correct that Alabama and UGA are football schools. Always have been. Always will be.

Mitch just made it worse with his sniveling. But that's what he does. Of course he wants no one pointing out that UK football exists just to rake in the SEC cash.
 

kl40504_rivals

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Cal is 100% correct. Maybe he shouldn't have told the truth because PC candy asses can't handle the truth but it's still the truth. UK is a basketball school. Always has been, always will be.

Cal was also correct that Alabama and UGA are football schools. Always have been. Always will be.

Mitch just made it worse with his sniveling. But that's what he does. Of course he wants no one pointing out that UK football exists just to rake in the SEC cash.
UK football is doing very well thank you. Without football there would be no minor sports at UK. They are the standard bearer for all things not basketball.
 
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Cal should have never USED the football program's upgrades and Mitch telling him NO for his, as an excuse to DISPRESPECT Coach Stoops PERIOD!!!

This PISSING CONTEST over UK being a "Basketball School" is IRRELEVANT!! The fact that Cal felt the need to put Mitch and in turn Coach Stoops' football program "In It's Place" is the MAIN Problem with his comments, even if they are historically factual.

So ANY OTHER discussion here is FUTILE and now that it is OVER. Can we all move on and forget it EVER happened??!!!!!


I want UK to be GREAT IN EVERY SPORT!!!! GO BIG BLUE!!!
 

Nuke99m.

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Cal is 100% correct. Maybe he shouldn't have told the truth because PC candy asses can't handle the truth but it's still the truth. UK is a basketball school. Always has been, always will be.

Cal was also correct that Alabama and UGA are football schools. Always have been. Always will be.

Mitch just made it worse with his sniveling. But that's what he does. Of course he wants no one pointing out that UK football exists just to rake in the SEC cash.
Why did he have to say anything?
 

Crums Bald Spot

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I am a UK football and men's basketball fan first and foremost. If Barney is not giving those two programs everything they need before he addresses the other issues, he's neglecting with the fans want and why the bills are paid. I know some will not take this lightly but it is what it is and Barney needs to understand this.
 

Cats192

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Like many of you, I have experience some pretty agonizing UK football seasons. We've come a long way and had a lot of success under Stoops. I'm extremely excited to have a competitive football team. I go into games against Georgia thinking it's a long shot, but just maybe. I used to do that against every team we played.

And so it blows my mind people acting like we need to remind them of their place. Some things just don't benefit anyone by saying it.
 

wildcat111

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I haven’t been bullish on the man but he stated the truth. While Barney has been ad we ve missed 3 tournaments. It’s evident Barney puts all sports on the same plane but the truth is UK athletics is led by our rich bb tradition. Does that mean we can’t be good at other things? Hell no! But a dose of reality doesn’t hurt things. Stoops on the other hand should have just ignored Cals comments. He’s done a great job with the fb team and we are on level with other SEC programs which is great. However UK is a basketball school and those facilities for the basketball team should get a makeover every year.

why barney is pumping the brakes is no more than his trying to assert himself. Our bb program is the flagship of all of our programs. We could lose the next 5 years and fb have 10 win seasons and it wouldn’t change. It’s the same with UNCheat with UCLA, IU on and on. Trying to pretend and deny out basketball program to make some sort of point is ridiculous. Stoops needed to stick to his time and ignore cal. Barney needed to stay out of it.

Put me down as one who was energized by Cals statement. It shows he knows the stakes. I love the football team too but Barney has left basketball to waste under his watch. Makes me think we are lucky to have cal or Barney would have gone through 3 other coaches by now in Cals tenure. It took a comittee to convince Barney cal was the right choice. Given his own we would have ended up with more billy c Gs.
BS
 

Kybluedude

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I'm a football first guy, but I 'm amazed how many people think basketball is the money cow at UK. Also that UK pays all of Cal's salary, when in reality the school only pays about 5% of his total salary. What Cal said just came across very odd, especially using nsmes of other schools, but what he said is true. I'm proud of both football and badketball as well as other sport's at UK. After observing things for a couple of days Barney wasn't far off about the media, they're like a bunch of piranhas on a feeding frenzy at the moment.
This is interesting to me. Could you detail how and who pays 95% of Cal’s salary? So only 5% comes from any money earmarked to UK?
 

John Henry

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I'm a football first guy, but I 'm amazed how many people think basketball is the money cow at UK. Also that UK pays all of Cal's salary, when in reality the school only pays about 5% of his total salary. What Cal said just came across very odd, especially using nsmes of other schools, but what he said is true. I'm proud of both football and badketball as well as other sport's at UK. After observing things for a couple of days Barney wasn't far off about the media, they're like a bunch of piranhas on a feeding frenzy at the moment.
The media drives division and are having a lot of fun with this. Especially the local media. It is obvious some do not like Mitch and anything they can do to run him off they will do. They already have his replacement picked out. Crazy stuff.
 

Cats192

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The media drives division and are having a lot of fun with this. Especially the local media. It is obvious some do not like Mitch and anything they can do to run him off they will do. They already have his replacement picked out. Crazy stuff.
Mitch is doing a great job of making everyone dislike him. That's not the media's fault. The media spread what he said. Mitch is still the guy that said it.
 
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wildcat7337

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No it shows that someone still recognizes the gravity of our basketball tradition. The man is calling out Barney for his lackadaisical approach to the greatest basketball program of all time. Barney should have just given cal assurances that the facilities would be updated every year. That’s what UK basketball has earned.
Cal hasn’t earned anything lately. Actually his performance in any other walk of life would warrant a pay cut. And where’s that “ I’ll build it myself with my NBA boys.” I’m sure a few of them said “say what!” If new flashy facilities help recruiting how did Coach K and Scheyer pull it off. Doesn’t say much for Cal. Kinda like the hot chick likes you just because of your new Corvette. Style over substance.
 

yoshukai

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I haven’t been bullish on the man but he stated the truth. While Barney has been ad we ve missed 3 tournaments. It’s evident Barney puts all sports on the same plane but the truth is UK athletics is led by our rich bb tradition. Does that mean we can’t be good at other things? Hell no! But a dose of reality doesn’t hurt things. Stoops on the other hand should have just ignored Cals comments. He’s done a great job with the fb team and we are on level with other SEC programs which is great. However UK is a basketball school and those facilities for the basketball team should get a makeover every year.

why barney is pumping the brakes is no more than his trying to assert himself. Our bb program is the flagship of all of our programs. We could lose the next 5 years and fb have 10 win seasons and it wouldn’t change. It’s the same with UNCheat with UCLA, IU on and on. Trying to pretend and deny out basketball program to make some sort of point is ridiculous. Stoops needed to stick to his time and ignore cal. Barney needed to stay out of it.

Put me down as one who was energized by Cals statement. It shows he knows the stakes. I love the football team too but Barney has left basketball to waste under his watch. Makes me think we are lucky to have cal or Barney would have gone through 3 other coaches by now in Cals tenure. It took a comittee to convince Barney cal was the right choice. Given his own we would have ended up with more billy c Gs.
The day cal leaves is the day I’ll be a happier UK fan .
 

Bluesbrother

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I totally agree but to me it isn’t so much about cal as it is dedicating annual resources to our flagship program. Whoever the coach they should never feel like they publicly have to plea for updated facilities. I’m of the mind that UK athletics should have an ad who is a better steward of our tradition. It doesn’t have to be done at the expense of other sports. Barney is so passive aggressive that he can’t take cal on after a losing season he has to use the players training facility to take him on. It’s terrible management and no one has been worse for uk basketball than Barney
It's always about revenue and because of that, UKBB is not the "flagship" program "within the halls of the Athletic Department". That may be true in the minds of some fans, but revenue is what matters, and that cash cow will be well fed, and should be. UKBB has a storied tradition, one we are proud of, but Stoops hasn't once denigrated the BB program to secure an advantage for the football program. Cal admitted he wasn't that smart, and his latest kerfuffle proves he may be right. The football program and revenue that it generates places it above the BB program when it comes to REVENUE. Cal cannot ever win that argument and fans who try creating an alternate reality there will fail as well.
 

Wildcats1st

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It's always about revenue and because of that, UKBB is not the "flagship" program "within the halls of the Athletic Department". That may be true in the minds of some fans, but revenue is what matters, and that cash cow will be well fed, and should be. UKBB has a storied tradition, one we are proud of, but Stoops hasn't once denigrated the BB program to secure an advantage for the football program. Cal admitted he wasn't that smart, and his latest kerfuffle proves he may be right. The football program and revenue that it generates places it above the BB program when it comes to REVENUE. Cal cannot ever win that argument and fans who try creating an alternate reality there will fail as well.
If it weren’t for UK basketball UK athletics would be on par with vandy, South Carolina, Missouri, etc. It is the flagship program. The enthusiasm for our athletic programs for decades has started with UK basketball. It is the flagship program of uk athletics and it’s not even close. As for revenue UK basketball earns more than it needs to sustain and continue to grow the program. There have been years that UK basketball put more fans in the seats than football.
 
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