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CL is now reporting that the James Meredith statue vandalism is now being investigated by the FBI as a 'hate crime.

I think this act is as stupid and miserable as it gets, but can there be any real crime from the incident? They didn't deface or do harm to the statue. If this is a crime in the eyes of the law shouldn't Auburn fans putting a Cam Newton jersey on the Bear Bryant statue also be one? Again, I am not comparing the 2 gestures in terms of humanity. One was a harmless prank, and the other is a hateful and insensitive display, but wouldn't this be protected under 1st amendment rights? I am just curious. Lawyers?
 

Shmuley

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I have a question for the nameless, faceless author of this editorial piece: WTF would you have the University "do" about this? And remember that this is a publicly owned piece of real estate we're talking about here. What exactly should they "do" about incidents like this? Put a guard around evey statue 24/7? Electrify every statue? Put fences, barricades, other obstructions around every statue? Remove every statue? Let's hear your suggestions, Mr. Editor.
 

vhdawg

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If the cops or whoever discovered this display had any common sense at all or any love for OM then they would have cleaned it up real fast and moved on. That way the university, state of MS, and south in general doesn't make the news for something terrible like this. And whatever dumbass that thought he was being cool gets his prank snuffed out before it goes viral. Am I way off on thinking that just taking care of it quietly is the obvious right thing to do here?

Totally agree. Take two minutes to clean it up and then there's nothing to see here. Now, everybody not from Mississippi is looking at this in the news and saying "There goes Mississippi being Mississippi again. Ole Miss, they're the Bulldogs, right?"
 
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RougeDawg

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You can bet your *** Lord Freezus would have gnawed it right off, it this had...

Totally agree. Take two minutes to clean it up and then there's nothing to see here. Now, everybody not from Mississippi is look at this in the news and saying "There goes Mississippi being Mississippi again. Ole Miss, they're the Bulldogs, right?"

Been anywhere near their jailhouse grey football complex. Writing that, the jailhouse **** grey stadium color fits the program to a T with the recent transgressions and holy arrests.
 

horshack.sixpack

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Agree. The people who did it are idiots, bigots or just kids who are so clueless that they thought it would be "funny". There is no valid excuse for that kind of display, but I now see that the FBI is involved. From a legal perspective and the actual deed that was done, what differentiates it from this:

 

johnson86-1

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I think this act is as stupid and miserable as it gets, but can there be any real crime from the incident? They didn't deface or do harm to the statue. If this is a crime in the eyes of the law shouldn't Auburn fans putting a Cam Newton jersey on the Bear Bryant statue also be one? Again, I am not comparing the 2 gestures in terms of humanity. One was a harmless prank, and the other is a hateful and insensitive display, but wouldn't this be protected under 1st amendment rights? I am just curious. Lawyers?

Not a practicing attorney, so take with a grain of salt: The noose implies a threat. If there is any evidence it was meant to threaten Meredith, it's a crime. Otherwise it traditionally wouldn't be a crime. Threats have to be specific and credible. If it's not Meredith, it doesn't look like there is a specific threat, whereas if it's just AA students in general, it's not credible. But some of the hate crime legislation may actually allow people to be prosecuted for thought crime; not sure. But I would think this could easily violate University policy without the university running into any free speech concerns, simply b/c violence is implicit in teh threat. Not sure though.
 
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Dammit. Altercation. I'm so sick of you bumbling ***** screwing up the quote. Kennedy said it would be an "international altercation" making the quote both more and less accurate.
 

prairiedawg

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throwing eggs at a house, rolling a tree in a yard, Saran Wrapping a public toilet to cause a mess, running around in public in a banana costume being chased by a guy in a gorilla costume, etc. These are things where people are being dumb kids and trying to get attention. They are also typically trying to be funny.

putting a noose around the neck of that statue and draping it in a flag with the stars and bars is a different level of idiocy and one that has totally different motivations than the things listed previously. I am a bit sad for you that you don't see the difference.

And I am sad for you that you get worked up about what two idiots do trying to get a rise out of people like you. It worked.
 

HD6

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If you'd give me a minute, that wouldn't be a problem.