Is it time to cut down the 1A/1AA state football qualifiers?

[Deana_King_rivals106402]

Here is my article from today that takes a closer look at the first round wins this past Friday night. Please be civil on this thread!!

Breaking down the numbers in the 1A Class
Deana King | Publisher

The first week of the NCHSAA high school football playoffs is officially in the books. There were some interesting facts that arose during this first week especially in the 1A Classification. In the 1A Classification, there are 64 teams that make the playoffs. Those 64 teams are divided into the 1A and 1AA divisions for the playoffs based on the schools’ ADM numbers.

NCPreps.com is going to take a closer look at the numbers from the week 1 games.

In the 8 first round games of 1A East, the winning teams scored 371 points (46.3) while giving up 110 points (13.8). The margin for victory was 32.5 points and every winning school scored at least 38 points except Southside. The biggest margin of victory was a 56-point win by Plymouth over Weldon while the closest game was Southside defeating South Creek 8-0.

2 shutouts

3 games within 1 scoring possession

3 teams scored over 40 points

2 teams scored over 50 points

2 teams scored over 60 points


In the 8 first rounds of the 1A West, the winning teams scored 374 points (46.8) while giving up 126 points (15.8). The margin for victory was 31.0 points and every winning school scored at least 21 points. The biggest margin of victory was a 56-point win by Mountain Island Charter over Andrews while the closest game was Winston-Salem Prep defeating Robbinsville 28-17.

No shutouts

0 games within 1 scoring possession

1 team scored over 40 points

3 teams scored over 50 points

2 teams scored over 60 points


In the 1A playoffs, winning teams scored 745 points (46.6) while giving up 236 points (14.8). The margin for victory was 31.8 points.

2 total shutouts

3 games within 1 scoring possession

4 teams scored over 40 points

5 teams scored over 50 points

4 teams scored over 60 points


In the 8 first round games of 1AA East, the winning teams scored 429 points (53.4) while giving up 135 points (16.9). The margin for victory was 36.5 points and every winning school scored at least 34 points. The biggest margin of victory was an 85-point win by East Carteret over Rosewood while the closest game was Princeton defeating Riverside-Martin 70-64 in 4 OTs.

2 shutouts

1 game within 1 scoring possession

4 teams scored over 40 points

0 teams scored over 50 points

2 teams scored over 60 points

1 team scored over 70 points

1 team scored over 80 points


In the 8 first round games of 1AA West, the winning teams scored 352 points (44.0) while giving up 90 points (11.3). The margin for victory was 32.7 points and every winning school scored at least 26 points. The biggest margin of victory was a 49-point win by East Montgomery over Avery while the closest game was Swain County defeating North Stanly 51-42.

3 shutouts

0 games within 1 scoring possession

5 teams scored over 40 points

2 teams scored over 50 points


In the 1AA playoffs, winning teams scored 781 points (48.8) while giving up 225 points (14.0). The margin for victory was 34.8 points.

5 total shutouts

1 game within 1 scoring possession

9 teams scored over 40 points

2 teams scored over 50 points

2 teams scored over 60 points

1 team scored over 70 points

1 team scored over 80 points


For the combined 1A and 1AA playoffs, the winning teams scored 1,526 points (47.7) while giving up 461 points (14.4). The margin of victory was an astounding 33.3 pointsper game.

Is it time to reduce the teams qualifying for the playoffs for the 1A and 1AA divisions? The answer is up to the school administrators, athletic directors, and coaches in the 1A Classification.

 

[Griddie]

Let them play. It's not perfect, but unless you are going to do it for all four classes then it doesn't make sense. The running block has helped some. Kids were able to play an extra game. See places they've never been. Plus the new 1A class is going to push some of the bigger schools like Murphy, Mitchell, up with the new realignment.

 

[gurnade_rivals481480]

I say let them play too! Is it perfect, no but like my friend before me said these kids get to play an extra week and see other areas of the state. Besides every once in a while we get an upset or two that make things interesting. I love every week of the high school football season, and I'm selfish. I don't want to give up even one of those weeks.

 

[WMFootballFanatic_rivals]

I don't believe the few and far between upsets is worth the 85-0 scores. That's just my opinion though. After the week off we beat Starmount and had multiple injuries. Nothing gained for us or Starmount really.

 

[photo0001]

I have said this for several year. Why make a team with 2 wins ride 3 to 4 & 1/2 just to lose by 50,60 or 70 points. That is on tax payer dollars. Can any one tell us how much it costs to send a team & cheerleaders that far with coaches and team knowing they will lose. The coaches and school administration should be held responsible if a kid gets hurt going up against a team that they are not in the same league with. It is all about the $2.00 per ticket I hear the NCHSAA gets for these games. The 2 & 0 team is not going to have a lot of followers other than family that will travel that far to knowing the team has little chances of a win. By the time the gate proceeds are split up and lighting bill paid, the NCHSAA is the the cash winner. I say no more than the top 3 teams per conference and if the numbers don't work on that then conference winner gets a bye and all teams can get an earlier start on basketball and not have to play catch up. No this want happen because it is all about the money for the NCHSAA. Just My Opinion..

 

[fitguync30]

I still despise the idea of splitting up the classes for the playoffs into A and AA. I can MAYBE see it for the 1A schools. But for the 2A and up schools it is ridiculous. And it is really stupid in 4A. Even the smallest 4A school in NC can still field a team with plenty of players and depth.

 

[gurnade_rivals481480]

The state gets $1.05 off of each ticket sold for the first 3 rounds, then $2.00 per ticket for the Regional championship game. The visiting school gets reimbursement for travel if the travel up to 75 miles, meal and travel from 76-150 miles and travel, meal, and hotel if over 150 miles. Then after all expenses are paid the remainder is split between home and visitor. If you travel well, you look to make a few bucks for your school even in a blowout. While I wholeheartedly agree that 85-0 is ridiculous, and throwing a TD pass with: 37 left leading 57-8 is deplorable, those are coaching and social issues. First time I ever left Beaufort Co. was on a football activity bus. Lost to Tarboro by 60, but I was glad to see something other than Washington. Until one of Einstein's decedent's comes up with a plan that will make EVERYONE happy, I still say let'em play!

 

[photo0001]

I still despise the idea of splitting up the classes for the playoffs into A and AA. I can MAYBE see it for the 1A schools. But for the 2A and up schools it is ridiculous. And it is really stupid in 4A. Even the smallest 4A school in NC can still field a team with plenty of players and depth.

What would you think of going to a 5A or 6A instead of just the 4 A-AA split and doing away with A & AA ? That would be 1-A ..2-A ..3-A .. 4-A ...5-A & 6-A all A with no AA

 

[WMFootballFanatic_rivals]

I would like to see something different but I hated the pods like everyone else. Gurnade, that is one of the best posts I have read in a long time. I may not be 100% sold on it, but you said it as well as anyone has.

 

[btango]

I have said this for several year. Why make a team with 2 wins ride 3 to 4 & 1/2 just to lose by 50,60 or 70 points. That is on tax payer dollars. Can any one tell us how much it costs to send a team & cheerleaders that far with coaches and team knowing they will lose. The coaches and school administration should be held responsible if a kid gets hurt going up against a team that they are not in the same league with. It is all about the $2.00 per ticket I hear the NCHSAA gets for these games. The 2 & 0 team is not going to have a lot of followers other than family that will travel that far to knowing the team has little chances of a win. By the time the gate proceeds are split up and lighting bill paid, the NCHSAA is the the cash winner. I say no more than the top 3 teams per conference and if the numbers don't work on that then conference winner gets a bye and all teams can get an earlier start on basketball and not have to play catch up. No this want happen because it is all about the money for the NCHSAA. Just My Opinion..

The NCHSAA advised the 1A schools to lower their playoff qualifying teams for the 2014 season. Two options were (1) 32 teams and four rounds (2) 48 teams with first round bye for eight teams in each subclass. NCHSAA thought going to 32 would alleviate the three complaints they heard the most from 1A schools (1) first round mismatches (2) travel (3) lack of coverage Championship weekend as compared to larger classes. The schools were overwhelmingly against it.

If it is about the NCHSAA making money why did they recommend cutting a round for 1A?

 

[AHVikingNation]

What would you think of going to a 5A or 6A instead of just the 4 A-AA split and doing away with A & AA ? That would be 1-A ..2-A ..3-A .. 4-A ...5-A & 6-A all A with no AA

I think it would be a great idea. They have it in every other state known to man.

 

[btango]

The biggest complaint from schools is split class conferences. Going above four classes would increase that. The current four classes works well in non football sports. Football seems to be the only sport that is an issue.

The schools have made it clear they do not want to reduce the number of teams making the playoffs or titles. If the structure was changed to five classes I think the schools would vote to subdivide the football playoffs to ten subclasses.

 

[photo0001]

A team with 2 or 3 wins has no business in the playoffs .It is just laughable that a school would put their kids through driving 3 or 4 or 5 h 19 knowing they have a very little chance to win and then that long ride home. If they are lucky they will have 50 to 75 and maybe 100 fans in the stands.The playoffs has gotten to be like politics. Just gone crazy .. Might as well let the 0-11 teams in it would be no worse. I look for them to start giving every team that makes the playoffs a ring in the next few years. LOL That was a joke just as the playoff have gotten to be in the last 8 to 12 years.It will come to an end if some 2 win-8 loses kid gets hurt bad and his parents bring a lawsuit against all parties responsible for this farce... Sorry just my opinion as everyone has their own."No pun intended" does this make sense ,8 seed Rosman traveling to North Duplin in Calypso, NC 5 h 19 min (352.6 mi) This week Cherokee will travel about the same distance to play North Duplin... Makes no sense to me but I can see Cherokee winning this one if the long ride don't beat them . My last word on this crazyness. It is like arguing with a sign post when everyone sees it their way..... But the vote above says it all...
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