Is it Urban Meyer? I hope so.

84lion

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I am 0% sold he can win anywhere close in 2026 to what he could in 2016. Completely different sport.
Well, Ryan Day was Urban's understudy at tOSU, and he seems to have made the transition well. Kyle Whittingham was also an Urban understudy, and I've seen posts wanting him. About the only flame-out is Luke Fickell at Wisconsin, but he did do well at Cincinnati.

If Kraft can bring Urban here, and can do it soon, recruiting will be salvaged. Probably be in the playoff conversation next year. And remember, you're looking for a guy that can win against top competition. Urban can do that. No more losing regularly to Ohio State and Oregon.

If Kraft has the opportunity to bring Urban on board, and whiffs, then Kraft should be fired. Urban is the "home run hire." Accept no substitutes - or pretenders.
 

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I guess the fact that McCormick has no actual connection to Penn State can be ignored for the sake of a good rumor? Carton's theory is pretty idiotic.
I don't think McCormick has lived in PA since he graduated from high school. I doubt he has much interest in PSU football.
 
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Well, Ryan Day was Urban's understudy at tOSU, and he seems to have made the transition well. Kyle Whittingham was also an Urban understudy, and I've seen posts wanting him. About the only flame-out is Luke Fickell at Wisconsin, but he did do well at Cincinnati.

If Kraft can bring Urban here, and can do it soon, recruiting will be salvaged. Probably be in the playoff conversation next year. And remember, you're looking for a guy that can win against top competition. Urban can do that. No more losing regularly to Ohio State and Oregon.

If Kraft has the opportunity to bring Urban on board, and whiffs, then Kraft should be fired. Urban is the "home run hire." Accept no substitutes - or pretenders.
I am sorry, but it is literally impossible for Urban to happen at PSU post-Sandusky. He would zero support from the BOT and he is just not a good human being. It would be an awful look for PSU as well. And you do not even know if he would be a good coach in 2026. You are working old info and are unfortunately willing to sell your soul for it.
 

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Meyer is not going to be the next coach of Penn State. Like Saban, he loathes NIL and has spoken out against it as ruining the game. He has been a long-time friend of McMormick. That he was seen having lunch with him is meaningless in terms of anything having to do with the PSU opening.
He at least wants attention enough to say otherwise...for many openings
 

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Meyer is not going to be the next coach of Penn State. Like Saban, he loathes NIL and has spoken out against it as ruining the game. He has been a long-time friend of McMormick. That he was seen having lunch with him is meaningless in terms of anything having to do with the PSU opening.
I can’t find any indication they are long time friends. Where is that info?
 
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I can’t find any indication they are long time friends. Where is that info?
You can probably find a mention of it in one of the articles somewhere. But it is true they are long-time friends. The story about them having lunch=Urban Meyer is going to be hired by Penn State as the next HC is way over-the-top. They both are probably laughing.
 

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Think about what Chesney did after Curt Cignetti raided the JMU roster via portal transfers to Indiana: Chesney won 9 games. This year JMU has won 6 games. The guy can coach. Already has recruiting contacts in the DMV, all over Virginia and into NC. He should be given strong consideration.
I would bet almost no one in the DMV or NC knows Chesney. He’s been at JMU for less than 2 years and before that he was at Holy Cross and places called Assumption and Salve Regina, which are apparently colleges. Also, his recruiting class was awful and this year’s isn’t looking good either

 

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Well there’s certainly been some smoke here, but it seems unlikely. Zach Smith’s comments, then seen with Senator McCormick, then Craig Carton’s comments. Meyer himself said Penn State wouldn’t fire Franklin without a plan in place — don’t know how that cuts. Jay Paterno probably supports Meyer, whatever that means. If Meyer wants the job, he’d be trying to round up support. There’s probably a lot of applicants. It’s totally different from 2012 and 2014.
 

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Urban is not coming back to coaching. He has zero experience with NIL or the transfer portal and I do not believe he has the personality to coach players in this era of college football. Only way this works is if Kraft hires a GM, like Stanford did with Luck, and make him responsible for all recruiting, compensation and so on.
The GM thing is very interesting to me. With expanded emphasis It could very well be the model in the NIL/transfer era
 
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Well, Ryan Day was Urban's understudy at tOSU, and he seems to have made the transition well. Kyle Whittingham was also an Urban understudy, and I've seen posts wanting him. About the only flame-out is Luke Fickell at Wisconsin, but he did do well at Cincinnati.

If Kraft can bring Urban here, and can do it soon, recruiting will be salvaged. Probably be in the playoff conversation next year. And remember, you're looking for a guy that can win against top competition. Urban can do that. No more losing regularly to Ohio State and Oregon.

If Kraft has the opportunity to bring Urban on board, and whiffs, then Kraft should be fired. Urban is the "home run hire." Accept no substitutes - or pretenders.
Ehh, agree to disagree.

I don’t think Urban would be Urban anymore.
 

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The GM thing is very interesting to me. It could very well be the model in the NIL/transfer era
Most major programs (including PSU) already have them.

Whether or not most of the folks drawing a paycheck in that position are having any meaningful impact? Debatable.
 

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I am sorry, but it is literally impossible for Urban to happen at PSU post-Sandusky. He would zero support from the BOT and he is just not a good human being. It would be an awful look for PSU as well. And you do not even know if he would be a good coach in 2026. You are working old info and are unfortunately willing to sell your soul for it.
Urban Meyer is a great college football coach, plain and simple. He wouldn’t take the job unless the school agrees to compete with the other big boys with NIL money. If he could get the players (and he would if he got the money) he would win. Whether or not his past makes him a viable candidate is a different subject, but coaching is of absolutely no concern to me regarding Meyer.
 

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I would bet almost no one in the DMV or NC knows Chesney. He’s been at JMU for less than 2 years and before that he was at Holy Cross and places called Assumption and Salve Regina, which are apparently colleges. Also, his recruiting class was awful and this year’s isn’t looking good either

Cignetti’s last 3 classes at JMU were 160, 116, 134.

Chesney: 110, 76.

Not the recruiting rankings are everything, but he’s been better at the place than Cig was.
 
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Urb is a low key a big GOP supporter and where is friendship with McCormick probably comes from. I don't know if Dave has any assoc with PSU though
 

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Cignetti’s last 3 classes at JMU were 160, 116, 134.

Chesney: 110, 76.

Not the recruiting rankings are everything, but he’s been better at the place than Cig was.
Well one guy was running a FCS program, one is running a Sun Belt program. I would hope they’re getting better
 

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Well, Ryan Day was Urban's understudy at tOSU, and he seems to have made the transition well. Kyle Whittingham was also an Urban understudy, and I've seen posts wanting him. About the only flame-out is Luke Fickell at Wisconsin, but he did do well at Cincinnati.

If Kraft can bring Urban here, and can do it soon, recruiting will be salvaged. Probably be in the playoff conversation next year. And remember, you're looking for a guy that can win against top competition. Urban can do that. No more losing regularly to Ohio State and Oregon.

If Kraft has the opportunity to bring Urban on board, and whiffs, then Kraft should be fired. Urban is the "home run hire." Accept no substitutes - or pretenders.
Not to mention Urban brings the talking heads to his side instantly, which keeps us in the conversation all the time and helps with rankings and playoff selection.
 
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Urban Meyer is a great college football coach, plain and simple. He wouldn’t take the job unless the school agrees to compete with the other big boys with NIL money. If he could get the players (and he would if he got the money) he would win. Whether or not his past makes him a viable candidate is a different subject, but coaching is of absolutely no concern to me regarding Meyer.
Now do Dabo. He was every bit as good as Urban when Urban hung it up.
 

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What am I missing here? If you fired James Franklin because his performance wasn’t good enough, then you are aiming for somebody who has a better resume than Franklin. There aren’t many coaches with a better record than Franklin. Urban is one of them. Why wouldn’t PSU at least make him say no? He is available, doesn’t have a buyout, one of the best recruiters of all time, and has been successful at every job he has had in college. He is also younger than Cignetti.

For those convinced that Urban is not going to be the next head coach, is it because you don’t want him? Is It because you don’t think PSU would ever approach him? Or is it because you don’t think he has any interest in the PSU job? I could understand Urban not wanting to coach at PSU, but if Kraft doesn’t at least ask him then Kraft probably shouldn’t be the AD.
 

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What am I missing here? If you fired James Franklin because his performance wasn’t good enough, then you are aiming for somebody who has a better resume than Franklin. There aren’t many coaches with a better record than Franklin. Urban is one of them. Why wouldn’t PSU at least make him say no? He is available, doesn’t have a buyout, one of the best recruiters of all time, and has been successful at every job he has had in college. He is also younger than Cignetti.

For those convinced that Urban is not going to be the next head coach, is it because you don’t want him? Is It because you don’t think PSU would ever approach him? Or is it because you don’t think he has any interest in the PSU job? I could understand Urban not wanting to coach at PSU, but if Kraft doesn’t at least ask him then Kraft probably shouldn’t be the AD.
D) all of the above
 
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Think about what Chesney did after Curt Cignetti raided the JMU roster via portal transfers to Indiana: Chesney won 9 games. This year JMU has won 6 games. The guy can coach. Already has recruiting contacts in the DMV, all over Virginia and into NC. He should be given strong consideration.
Sadly it sounds like it's going to be Rhule.
 

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What am I missing here? If you fired James Franklin because his performance wasn’t good enough, then you are aiming for somebody who has a better resume than Franklin. There aren’t many coaches with a better record than Franklin. Urban is one of them. Why wouldn’t PSU at least make him say no? He is available, doesn’t have a buyout, one of the best recruiters of all time, and has been successful at every job he has had in college. He is also younger than Cignetti.

For those convinced that Urban is not going to be the next head coach, is it because you don’t want him? Is It because you don’t think PSU would ever approach him? Or is it because you don’t think he has any interest in the PSU job? I could understand Urban not wanting to coach at PSU, but if Kraft doesn’t at least ask him then Kraft probably shouldn’t be the AD.
I don’t think you have to find a guy with a better resume. I think you do it because you think Penn State is a program that can achieve X, and you don’t believe Franklin is a guy that can achieve X.

But here’s the thing. Here are the guys that didn’t have Franklin’s resume until their current stops:

Kirby Smart
Ryan Day
Dabo Swinney
Dan Lanning

On And on. Are these schools upset they didn’t find a coach with a better resume?

To your question about urban, It’s not that I don’t want Urban as coach as much as I don’t think he’s the best guy at Penn State. He had the most talented teams his last 3-4 years in the Big Ten by far, and won his fair share of Big Ten Championships ,but he always found a way to lose games to teams he never should have, which led to his last 4 seasons winning no National Titles. His 2016 team got run off the field by Clemson, a very good team obviously, but they got shut out and looked completely awful. But that Clemson team wasn’t unbeatable. They lost at home to Pitt, giving up almost 40 points.
Now he left right as NIL and the portal were coming. His title at Ohio State was won using 3 QBs, which was absurdly hard to do. Kudos to him. But today, he wouldn’t have 3 to use. One of those guys would leave already, and the other one would the next year when not the starter. A lot more variance to me today, shorter depth charts, and I’m just not sure he’s built the mentality shift from a decade ago. His reported inflexibility in Jacksonville doesn’t make me feel any better.
 
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It's Rhule.
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