Hopefully a smokescreen not seen since the start of Operation Barbarossa. If it's Rhule it will end like it.
And that would make him an even better “coach” right?
Plus, he’ll have access to recruiting resources he’s never had before.
I don't think his recruiting level at JMU is disqualifying from a major job, no.
Of all the guys rumored, the only one I'd be ok with is Rhule. The rest are slimeballs and not up to PSU standards.
You can sell it, but he was dealing with a FCS recruiting budget, staff and resources while he was actually recruting those classes. And I'm guessing the '24 class fell apart when he left, but who knows.
Regardless, and back to the point, no one at DeMatha, Good Counsel or Myers Park is going to be impressed when Bob Chesney walks into the school to recruit. The idea of asking him to scale what he's been doing at Holy Cross and briefly at JMU into what PSU is going to need to beat Ohio State and Oregon, is crazy to me
I just disagree with the last part. None of these kids know the coaches until they know the coaches. The logo on the shirt gets them a modicum of credibility, and then it's up to the coach to be likable and, as important, trustworthy.
Wonder if they'd be better off with Kenny Chesney.
I wonder how that cyst thing is going with Urban Meyer with the headaches. He could be in a health situation that would make the middle of Pennsylvania a great place to be compared to somewhere with constant beaming sunshine.
He could probably win big at Penn State, but like many people are afraid of, it would likely be a little bit dirty. This game now is unabashedly all about money. Used to, that was under the table. But now it's no holds barred, and anything involving big money is corrupt. I don't see how trying to be squeaky clean even fits in to this sport anymore.
I would be OK with Urban getting it, but if they decide to try to go with less baggage, and likely a less chance of winning big, I can understand that.
I am so ******* sick of the standards talk around here. We had a guy with standards. We had a guy that wouyld normally win 10 games. We had a family guy that embraced the culture.
We lost the "we need standards" **** the day they fired JF.
We lost the "we need standards" **** the day they fired JF.
It’s not 1985 anymore. We all saw how the standard ended right or wrong. You can’t live in the past. This is big time college football and things have changed dramatically maybe for the worst. Change with the times or get left behind. I want the best coach for the job. I lived through the golden era of PSU football but I could give a flying **** if the next guy has ties to PSU or not. That’s not the most important qualification for this job.
Outside of being friendly with Kraft and the BOT, I just don't know what there is in Rhule's background to suggest he is an outstanding candidate. Hell of a job at Temple(like franklin at Vandy), Good job at baylor, went to the championship game, but big 12 ya know? Then a disaster in the NFL, fine, happens to a lot of college guys...now sort of average to slightly above average at Nebraska? If Kraft wants his stated CHAMPIONSHIPs, I just don't think anything about Rhule screams that.
Standard had become never beating anyone good.
Glad we're attempting a move to beat good teams. Could blow up, could not.
He was no better or worse than the people who came before or after him at either Temple or Baylor. What Franklin did at Vandy >>>>>> Rhule at Temple.
He's barely better at Nebraska than Mike Riley was.
He's got this great attribute of getting hired a lot that makes people want to hire him a lot.
Kind of like he figured out the Jacksonville Job? You need to listen to coaches that worked with him at different programs to understand how difficult it would be for him to work in today's football climate. He would be a massive failure.
Well, that, and the off chance he gets a little tipsy and goes knuckles deep on a random coed in public while being filmed.
If you believe any of the Dr. Lynch accusations against Franklin then he wasn’t exactly Mother Teresa.
Exactly. This whole "gotta be a Penn State guy" crap needs to go away. We had a good guy here and no one wanted him. Personally I think it was a mistake to get rid of him. College football isn't the same anymore and expecting PSU to be a perennial top 3 program isn't happening.
Was a great college football coach before the NIL and transfer portal era. If you want comp look at his tenure at Jacksonville. Today's recruits (like pros) can walk once Urban is Urban (yelling and screaming and degrading them). Players make a ton of money, if talented; they will not put up with Urban humiliating them. The GOAT left Alabama at the pinnacle of his career at Alabama. Why? He was unwilling to change to fit the era.
Urban does have a legacy issue that likely eats at him. He was suspended and quit OSU at the tails of the Smith scandal and then went on to a catastrophic stint with the Jags. He legacy is tarnished, and he may very well want to end it on his terms. However, it is just as likely, given the new landscape of college football, that he fails miserably
Let's not forget the allegations of misconduct of the football players at Vanderbilt - before FHCJF came to Penn State. Supposedly Franklin was subjected to a "thorough vetting" but it was Erickson who said that.
It's more likely that Urban has thoughts of entering politics in Ohio.
Craig Carton thinks Urban Meyer's meeting with Pennsylvania senator is about Penn State job
Craig Carton has a theory about why Urban Meyer had breakfast with Pennsylvania Senator Dave McCormick after James Franklin's firing.awfulannouncing.com
Let's go State!
Just because he hasn’t coached under these parameters doesn’t mean he can’t. If the biggest concern we have about the next is that “he was phenomenal before but he hasn’t proven he can handle NIL/portal stuff” then we’ve made a hell of a hire.
He’ll have no trouble walking back into college and winning. He’s a great college coach. NIL, transfer portal, whatever. He can coach, he can recruit, he will be able to get guys out of the portal. He is hands down the best coach currently available. I get the concerns with his off-fields stuff, but as a football coach he’s a no-brainer.
76th if you look at 2026. He also recruits widely and for a Sun Belt school successfully in several talent rich southern schools (Fl, GA). His only loss this year, after rebuilding the entire roster following Cig's departure, is to Louisville. Penn State can do much, much worse. He is young, dynamic, knows Penn State's recruiting footprint. Only thing is he has not won at the P4 level. I would be fine with him
Stupid to hire Rhule he is Franklin light - welcome back to the dark ages but I guess some will be happy we got a PSU guy doesn’t matter that he win’t win anything.
No, my biggest concern is that just like in Jacksonville he will be unable to implement his coaching "style" today. One tantrum to a recruit making millions of dollars and the recruit will say I am out. Recruits today do not have to put up with humiliation. They can simply move on and someone else will pay them.
He already has the mandatory sex scandals out of the way to get into politics.
To be clear. In an era of football where players were uncompensated and could not transfer without sitting out and needed a top program to amplify their chances to succeed in professional sports, Urban was second to none (or maybe Saban). But those days are long, long gone.
Today you need someone who is able to manage people effectively (not dominate them), can glad hand with donors, and continually re-recruit players (not tell them "you are thinking about playing in x, not Florida? Seriously? Go to f+++ x.".
Today the parity created by NIL and the portal (Indiana, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, etc.) requires a skill set different than what worked during Urban's time at Florida and OSU. Saban did not leave because he could not coach anymore, he knew that coaching was not the beginning and end all of what makes a program successful today.
Today you need someone who is able to manage people effectively (not dominate them), can glad hand with donors, and continually re-recruit players (not tell them "you are thinking about playing in x, not Florida? Seriously? Go to f+++ x.".
Today the parity created by NIL and the portal (Indiana, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, etc.) requires a skill set different than what worked during Urban's time at Florida and OSU. Saban did not leave because he could not coach anymore, he knew that coaching was not the beginning and end all of what makes a program successful today.
OK.
That’s not something I am concerned about.
All this to say, I don’t think he’s coming to Penn State anyway.
Yeah, like Tressel. Got fired over tiddlywinks that would be nothing in today's game and now gets his name plastered all over the welcome signs and rest areas as "Lt." Governor. Yippee.
Maybe Urban would rather leave the whole damn state than wind up a second name on glorified porta potties in Akron.
That’s probably true but not necessarily a bad thing. I wouldn’t want a player that’s in it only for the money and I’m sure Urban doesn’t either.
Above everything else he wants to win and that makes him a miserable pr*ck when he’s coaching. He’s hard on everyone and treats them like sh*t when they don’t perform. That’s the reason people hate him and also the reason why he’s been a winner. He’s demanding and a perfectionist. I’m sure there would be players that would leave because of his act but there would also be a lot of great players who are going to want to go play for him because they know he will do anything to win.
Edit: I don’t think he’s coming here either.
There's JD Vance's open senate seat. Urban was probably listening to Dave's pitch on that
one of the complaints I have with people is they say with our recruiting we should always be higher. Most of the itme our recruiting was in the 10-14 range. So, technically, JF was outperforming his recrutiing.
Craig Carton thinks Urban Meyer's meeting with Pennsylvania senator is about Penn State job
Craig Carton has a theory about why Urban Meyer had breakfast with Pennsylvania Senator Dave McCormick after James Franklin's firing.
Let's go State!
