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bung23

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Provide any statiscal evidence that blue states put more violent criminals back on the streets.

I am not for taking away everyone's guns but there is no reason for anyone to have assault weapons with high capacity magazines. Absolutely none.
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There’s no reason for a $10,000 handbag either…. Or a souped up hotrod that goes 225 MPH. Geez dude, people can have whatever they want. Maybe put trans on the domestic terrorist watch list….
 

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Lol
There’s no reason for a $10,000 handbag either…. Or a souped up hotrod that goes 225 MPH. Geez dude, people can have whatever they want. Maybe put trans on the domestic terrorist watch list….
A $10,000 handbag and a car are not intended to cause lethal damage. By your logic, why not let people have missile launchers and anti-tank weapons.
 

bung23

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A $10,000 handbag and a car are not intended to cause lethal damage. By your logic, why not let people have missile launchers and anti-tank weapons.
I’ve seen cars driven into crowds of little girls and grannies by psychopaths that killed dozens.

You don’t get it… Our weapons are what keeps us free from our government enslaving us. And I don’t want to hear anything about conspiracy theories or qanon paranoia. Look at Britain. Look at China. Look at our dems. All cut from the same cloth and that cloth wants to rule you with an iron fist.
 

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Prince belongs way up on that list. I’m also thrilled the first couple of responses mentioning Roy Clark and Glen Campbell. Those 2 could flat out shred. I think Jerry Reed was pretty good, too, but Clark was fantastic.

 

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Prince belongs way up on that list. I’m also thrilled the first couple of responses mentioning Roy Clark and Glen Campbell. Those 2 could flat out shred. I think Jerry Reed was pretty good, too, but Clark was fantastic.



I love the Stones, but Keith Richards is way to high. David Gilmore too low.

I would have Kenny Wayne Shepherd on the list.
 
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Prince belongs way up on that list. I’m also thrilled the first couple of responses mentioning Roy Clark and Glen Campbell. Those 2 could flat out shred. I think Jerry Reed was pretty good, too, but Clark was fantastic.


I'm a little suspect of that one. Not to take anything away from Prince. But essentially that same quote was attributed to Eddie Van Halen. Back in the day (and maybe still) Guitar Player Magazine had an annual list of best guitarist for the year in various categories. They also had a policy that once a player won for 5 years in a row they were retired to a hall of fame status and ineligible for the annual award. Eddie won for five straight years for best rock guitarist, was added to the hall of fame, and the following year Alex Lifeson of Rush won it. Eddie was asked in an interview that year what it felt like to be the best rock guitarist and he said, "I dunno, ask Alex Lifeson!", more or less in jest because he didn't win the award that year, not to slight Lerxst. This was back in 1983 or 1984 IIRC. I suppose it's not impossible that Clapton coincidentally said more-or-less the same thing about Prince, but the two guys that per Calpton more-or-less knocked him back on his heels when he first saw them were Jimi and SRV (although neither may have still been alive at the time).

Prince is sort of an enigma because his body of work on guitar is fairly limited, but no doubt he could play. I agree Roy Clark was extremely good.

That Rolling Stone list (the full list) is kind of a joke, if you look at it in detail. But "Best" is very subjective.

Edit to add: I'm not sure where the list in the X-post above came from. Here is a link to RS's actual list that I was referring too.

 
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I'm a little suspect of that one. Not to take anything away from Prince. But essentially that same quote was attributed to Eddie Van Halen. Back in the day (and maybe still) Guitar Player Magazine had an annual list of best guitarist for the year in various categories. They also had a policy that once a player won for 5 years in a row they were retired to a hall of fame status and ineligible for the annual award. Eddie won for five straight years for best rock guitarist, was added to the hall of fame, and the following year Alex Lifeson of Rush won it. Eddie was asked in an interview that year what it felt like to be the best rock guitarist and he said, "I dunno, ask Alex Lifeson!", more or less in jest because he didn't win the award that year, not to slight Lerxst. This was back in 1983 or 1984 IIRC. I suppose it's not impossible that Clapton coincidentally said more-or-less the same thing about Prince, but the two guys that per Calpton more-or-less knocked him back on his heels when he first saw them were Jimi and SRV (although neither may have still been alive at the time).

Prince is sort of an enigma because his body of work on guitar is fairly limited, but no doubt he could play. I agree Roy Clark was extremely good.

That Rolling Stone list (the full list) is kind of a joke, if you look at it in detail. But "Best" is very subjective.

Edit to add: I'm not sure where the list in the X-post above came from. Here is a link to RS's actual list that I was referring too.

Agreed on the quote from Clapton. I’ve heard it with multiple names including Roy Clark, etc. It’s the internet. The problem with the list is the problem with the list, not the quote. And subjective lists are as subjective as Soviet judges in an Olympic Ice Skating contest. Prince’s body of work on guitar was every guitar track on every one of his albums. The dude played guitar, bass, keys, drums, saxophone, etc.

Mick Jagger - ““I am so saddened to hear of Prnce’s passing. Prince was a revolutionary artist, a wonderful musician and composer. He was an original lyricist and a startling guitar player.”


13 minutes of groove including great solo despite no whammy on the Tele and bass solo towards the end. Masterful player, composer, entertainer. Enjoy.

 

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Roy Clark. No intense distortion/delay/reverb to hide mistakes.


Glen Campbell, who IINM was a session guitarist and not just a solo artist. On acoustic here. Have seen video of him doing more.


Between the two, Clark and Campbell, Campbell seemed more technical whereas Clark played with more feel.
 

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Agreed on the quote from Clapton. I’ve heard it with multiple names including Roy Clark, etc. It’s the internet. The problem with the list is the problem with the list, not the quote. And subjective lists are as subjective as Soviet judges in an Olympic Ice Skating contest. Prince’s body of work on guitar was every guitar track on every one of his albums. The dude played guitar, bass, keys, drums, saxophone, etc.

Mick Jagger - ““I am so saddened to hear of Prnce’s passing. Prince was a revolutionary artist, a wonderful musician and composer. He was an original lyricist and a startling guitar player.”


13 minutes of groove including great solo despite no whammy on the Tele and bass solo towards the end. Masterful player, composer, entertainer. Enjoy.


I'm certainly not trying to dog Prince, I'm an admirer, but I'm going to stick up for one of the most overlooked guitarists, Wendy Melvoin who I think played a fair bit of the guitar on his studio records once she joined his group, and had at least a hand in the iconic (in my mind) "rhythm" guitar part in Purple Rain. The outro solo is of course pure Prince, and one of the best sparse solos I've ever heard. Part of the reason Prince doesn't immediately come to mind with a lot of people when people think of guitar players is that he was such an accomplished multi-insrumentalist, and at least thinking back to what I can remember from the 80s, many of his songs that got on the chart didn't feature guitar prominently. I didn't realize how accomplished he was until I saw his performance on While My Guitar Gently Weeps a few years ago. I've never done a deep dive on his catalog because by-in-large his music that got on the radio/MTV wasn't my cup of tea, especially at the time, with maybe the exception of Purple Rain. No doubt the man was an extraordinary musical genius, but the extent of his skill on guitar was one of the best kept secrets, even among guitar nerds, for a long time, which is likely a tribute to his skill as a composer/arranger. Moar Guitar is not always better!

Up here in the woods I don't have the bandwidth to stream the video you linked right now, big thunderstorms in the area and it'll take a while for everything to get straightened out, but I'll come back later and check it out. I'm a latecomer to the Prince as guitarist bandwagon.

P.S. It's much more fun to talk about guitar/guitar players than Trump and politics. :)
 
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I'm certainly not trying to dog Prince, I'm an admirer, but I'm going to stick up for one of the most overlooked guitarists, Wendy Melvoin who I think played a fair bit of the guitar on his studio records once she joined his group, and had at least a hand in the iconic (in my mind) "rhythm" guitar part in Purple Rain. The outro solo is of course pure Prince, and one of the best sparse solos I've ever heard. Part of the reason Prince doesn't immediately come to mind with a lot of people when people think of guitar players is that he was such an accomplished multi-insrumentalist, and at least thinking back to what I can remember from the 80s, many of his songs that got on the chart didn't feature guitar prominently. I didn't realize how accomplished he was until I saw his performance on While My Guitar Gently Weeps a few years ago. I've never done a deep dive on his catalog because by-in-large his music that got on the radio/MTV wasn't my cup of tea, especially at the time, with maybe the exception of Purple Rain. No doubt the man was an extraordinary musical genius, but the extent of his skill on guitar was one of the best kept secrets, even among guitar nerds, for a long time, which is likely a tribute to his skill as a composer/arranger. Moar Guitar is not always better!

Up here in the woods I don't have the bandwidth to stream the video you linked right now, big thunderstorms in the area and it'll take a while for everything to get straightened out, but I'll come back later and check it out. I'm a latecomer to the Prince as guitarist bandwagon.

P.S. It's much more fun to talk about guitar/guitar players than Trump and politics. :)
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Edit: Found a better post that explained what the admin was trying to do. This judge made a garbage decision based on orange man bad. This is what is wrong with the Democrats. Can we just use common sense and reunite these kids with their families?
 
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Again, he needs to go take a 7th grade civics course. President cannot create a law, plus elections are run by the states.
Not entirely true. You need to retake a civics course. What states can’t do is make their own rules as to who can vote in Federal elections and Congress can specifically tell them the methods by which they vote in Federal General Elections.
 

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Dumb. They complain because their goods cost more and they sell less.
Do you revel in being wrong at all times? Your delusion is hilarious.

USA doing great. Canada economy contracting. Yet here Jeff is 4 months after one of the greatest ever failed predictions on this board still spouting off. Market is at all time highs and Atlanta FED forecasting 3Q GDP of 3.5 percent. Boom!
 
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