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rillaman

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You responded to it and both of you create nothing more than a circle. I didn’t quote you, because I wasn’t singling you out in that conversation, yet here you are whining and not taking responsibility for your own actions. You’re presenting yourself as a very fine future Democrat. Just come out of the closet already and make it official. TIA

Speaking of repetitive posting.
 

rillaman

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Who is shutting it down and why? No apology from me.

What a waste of $. I thought conservatives were against wasting $. Such a stupid idea in the first place.

It flooded and cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars. Who could have guessed that would happen?
 

rillaman

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23 percent more likely to die if you took the death jab. Data exists, some just refuse to accept it.



Is that across all age spectrums? Old/sick people were more likely to get the vaccine. Old/sick people are more likely to die.

In their study, did they give the placebo to old/sick people who thought they were getting a vaccine? Or was the placebo given to young people?

Do you mind sharing the study and results?
 

Uncoach

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What a waste of $. I thought conservatives were against wasting $. Such a stupid idea in the first place.

It flooded and cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars. Who could have guessed that would happen?
It flooded? It got shut down by a Fed District Judge. Can you give me the link to said flooding causing it to close?
 
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rillaman

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It flooded? It got shut down by a Fed District Judge. Can you give me the link to said flooding causing it to close?

Yes it flooded. I didn’t say that’s why it would close. I said it would flood and it would be a massive waste of $. Both of those things came true. It did none of the things that you guys thought it would. It was a show, and a massive waste of $. What a deterrent, lol.

Both sides get upset when I am right about something that is completely obvious. Venezuelans, Alligator Alcatraz….maybe you guys will start listening.
 

stoneaxe27

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Is that across all age spectrums? Old/sick people were more likely to get the vaccine. Old/sick people are more likely to die.

In their study, did they give the placebo to old/sick people who thought they were getting a vaccine? Or was the placebo given to young people?

Do you mind sharing the study and results?
It is foolish to accept ANYTHING the RFK, Jr. states as a fact. Jenny McCarthy given a Cabinet post.
 

JeffT819

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23 percent more likely to die if you took the death jab. Data exists, some just refuse to accept it.


  • Initial vaccination efforts (late 2021):A December 2021 Household Pulse Survey by the U.S. Census Bureau found that unvaccinated adults were, on average, younger than those who had received at least one vaccine dose. In this survey:
    • Roughly 75% of unvaccinated adults were under age 50.
    • Less than half of vaccinated adults were under age 50.
Differences in populations would likely account for most of the difference. People who were vaccinated were older and sicker. Keep believing idiots RFK Jr.
 

tjfleck6

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  • Initial vaccination efforts (late 2021):A December 2021 Household Pulse Survey by the U.S. Census Bureau found that unvaccinated adults were, on average, younger than those who had received at least one vaccine dose. In this survey:
    • Roughly 75% of unvaccinated adults were under age 50.
    • Less than half of vaccinated adults were under age 50.
Differences in populations would likely account for most of the difference. People who were vaccinated were older and sicker. Keep believing idiots RFK Jr.
Again, Jeff, you took the vaccine like many people take aspirin. You so don't want this to be true that you call RFK Jr. an idiot - someone who is largely aligned with your views.

Twenty three percent more likely to die of all causes and you just dismiss it. Not a shock.
 
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tjfleck6

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Good thing people have guns to protect themselves from 11 year old children who ring doorbells and run away.

Great you have the inability to distinguish between self defense and likely 2nd degree murder.

Of course, you believe that guns in the hands of Jews would have made no difference in Germany circa 1933. One can guarantee they wouldn't have gone down without a fight. But, like the vaccine, Jeff trusts the government on all fronts.
 

AzIllini

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OT-When is killing a baby murder? The attached talks about a cheerleader at Kentucky giving birth to a baby and authorities finding it dead in a closet wrapped in a towel. Someone called police, so at least someone thought it was wrong.

According to the article, here is what the mother is being charged with:
"Snelling, whom the Lexington Police Department said was the infant’s mother, was charged with abuse of a corpse, tampering with physical evidence and concealing the birth of an infant."

If she aborted the baby that is not murder in the US so letting it die after birth apparently is the next step. The libs will say she should have had an abortion so obviously planned parenthood is underfunded and needs more money.

 
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BigWill

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Yes it flooded. I didn’t say that’s why it would close. I said it would flood and it would be a massive waste of $. Both of those things came true. It did none of the things that you guys thought it would. It was a show, and a massive waste of $. What a deterrent, lol.

Both sides get upset when I am right about something that is completely obvious. Venezuelans, Alligator Alcatraz….maybe you guys will start listening.
When you are DECISIVE enough to Vote, then we'll pay attention.
 
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BigWill

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  • Initial vaccination efforts (late 2021):A December 2021 Household Pulse Survey by the U.S. Census Bureau found that unvaccinated adults were, on average, younger than those who had received at least one vaccine dose. In this survey:
    • Roughly 75% of unvaccinated adults were under age 50.
    • Less than half of vaccinated adults were under age 50.
Differences in populations would likely account for most of the difference. People who were vaccinated were older and sicker. Keep believing idiots RFK Jr.
Yet less than a year ago he was a trusted, valuable Democrat !
 

BigWill

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Great you have the inability to distinguish between self defense and likely 2nd degree murder.

Of course, you believe that guns in the hands of Jews would have made no difference in Germany circa 1933. One can guarantee they wouldn't have gone down without a fight. But, like the vaccine, Jeff trusts the government on all fronts.
Doubters of the Second Amendment and it's effect should study the Destruction of the Warshaw Jewish District by the German's.
 
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ILisBest

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Yes it flooded. I didn’t say that’s why it would close. I said it would flood and it would be a massive waste of $. Both of those things came true. It did none of the things that you guys thought it would. It was a show, and a massive waste of $. What a deterrent, lol.

Both sides get upset when I am right about something that is completely obvious. Venezuelans, Alligator Alcatraz….maybe you guys will start listening.
Can you post the study showing how many were deterred(potentially self deport or didn't come) because of AA vs the cost so we can weigh out the benefits?
 

stoneaxe27

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Again, Jeff, you took the vaccine like many people take aspirin. You so don't want this to be true that you call RFK Jr. an idiot - someone who is largely aligned with your views.

Twenty three percent more likely to die of all causes and you just dismiss it. Not a shock.
Do you understand the total lunacy of what you posted as true. Those taking the vaxx were 23% more likely to die from all causes? Not only COVID, but a cold, the flu, pneumonia, venereal disease, they were 23% more likely to die from any illness because they had the vaxx. That is asinine, and not supported by any data except wacko conspiracy sites.
 

stoneaxe27

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Doubters of the Second Amendment and it's effect should study the Destruction of the Warshaw Jewish District by the German's.
Commonly told myth. The Ghetto uprising was a pitch battle as the Jews had acquired a lot of guns. But they were destroyed because the Nazis had the best arms, tanks of any military to that point in history. The Germans arms were better than the U.S. arms. That is what would happen to civilians in US believing they could out gun the military. Foolish.
 

tjfleck6

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Do you understand the total lunacy of what you posted as true. Those taking the vaxx were 23% more likely to die from all causes? Not only COVID, but a cold, the flu, pneumonia, venereal disease, they were 23% more likely to die from any illness because they had the vaxx. That is asinine, and not supported by any data except wacko conspiracy sites.

In the most vaccinated country in the world (for Covid), this is happening and gee-whiz, they just can't explain it.

Australians in their 30s and 40s are being diagnosed with cancer at unprecedented rates | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site for latest headlines

Separately, for Jeffy, the Aussies who refused the death jab were moved to internment camps. Too bad they gave up their guns 25 years ago - impossible to stand up to tyranny without them.
 

rillaman

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Again, Jeff, you took the vaccine like many people take aspirin. You so don't want this to be true that you call RFK Jr. an idiot - someone who is largely aligned with your views.

Twenty three percent more likely to die of all causes and you just dismiss it. Not a shock.

80 year olds are dying at a higher % than 30 year olds. What could it be? The vaccine is clearly the culprit.
 

dtrain79

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I know it's going to shock everyone, but TJ's anecdotal evidence, stories, and bluster happens to be totally contradicted by the actual data cross comparing the entire population of Norway based on vaccination status over a two-year period (2021-23).

Break out the horse dewormer!

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dtrain79

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80 year olds are dying at a higher % than 30 year olds. What could it be? The vaccine is clearly the culprit.

RFK knows the people who accept what he's saying are too stupid or too far gone mentally to actually bother with this.

I don't think this applies to TJ, but much of MAGA was scared of Covid in a way you and I weren't. The vaccine antipathy is the "make up test" for good standing in MAGA now. They can't say they were on the attack about lockdowns, masks, public policy on protecting the vulnerable/not restricting the healthy, but they can claim that the vaccines are evil (as unlike the other three matters, there's zero evidence to support their take so it remains taboo among people with an actual clue).
 

tjfleck6

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RFK knows the people who accept what he's saying are too stupid or too far gone mentally to actually bother with this.

I don't think this applies to TJ, but much of MAGA was scared of Covid in a way you and I weren't. The vaccine antipathy is the "make up test" for good standing in MAGA now. They can't say they were on the attack about lockdowns, masks, public policy on protecting the vulnerable/not restricting the healthy, but they can claim that the vaccines are evil (as unlike the other three matters, there's zero evidence to support their take so it remains taboo among people with an actual clue).
Truly dumb. MAGA was not at all scared of Covid. That take is up there with your liberation day takes - truly dreadful. I traveled MAGA country extensively from March - July 2020. While you were bunkering down, I saw rural folks living normally. Hell, my boss walked into a bar in March/April 2020 in rural Idaho/Oregon when Covid fear was near its peak and he thought he had gone back in time to 2019 as it was a busy place.

Bottom line, you reject data you don't like and make up stuff like an abundance of 80 year olds. If Pfizer created a study of 22000 vaxxed vs 22000 placebo and had unequal numbers of 80+ in the vaxxed group, that is hardly scientific. If anything they would have had extra unvaxxed 80 year olds to prove the quality of their product.

But, you and Rill have full trust in Pfizer, a company that has promised to release all of the data in 2095. Nothing to hide.
 
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Yes it flooded. I didn’t say that’s why it would close. I said it would flood and it would be a massive waste of $. Both of those things came true. It did none of the things that you guys thought it would. It was a show, and a massive waste of $. What a deterrent, lol.

Both sides get upset when I am right about something that is completely obvious. Venezuelans, Alligator Alcatraz….maybe you guys will start listening.
I asked for a link. You still haven’t provided it. You just keep patting your back on your back despite not having done anything for the 2024 POTUS election. The guy you voted for (wrote in) is actually the person gung ho about Alligator Alcatraz. Get me a link to said flooding. Any flooding isn’t why the Federal judge blocked it, BTW.

 
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dtrain79

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@rillaman ... Interesting stuff in this piece on Chicago shooting data.

It looks like your odds of dying after being shot is actually up since 2010 (we don't have data going further back). Gun deadliness appears to be outpacing medical advances (I'd buy off this wasn't always the case tho). Wouldn't shock me if in the 1980s medical advances were saving more lives than gun effectiveness contributed to taking.

Contextualizing Chicago's Enormous Drop in Shootings
 
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BigWill

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@rillaman ... Interesting stuff in this piece on Chicago shooting data.

It looks like your odds of dying after being shot is actually up since 2010 (we don't have data going further back). Gun deadliness appears to be outpacing medical advances (I'd buy off this wasn't always the case tho). Wouldn't shock me if in the 1980s medical advances were saving more lives than gun effectiveness contributed to taking.

Contextualizing Chicago's Enormous Drop in Shootings
Chicago Shooting Fatalities 667 +, Shootings 2,000 +.

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