Best weather year-to-date I can remember in Phoenix in years.
It's Almost Fall
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Fall in Illinois is welcomed by me. I enjoy the change of seasons, the colors of the trees and other plant life, all the harvest and breaking out some long sleeves, having bonfires on weekend evenings while watching football on the big screen on our deck.
Beautiful running weather.Best weather year-to-date I can remember in Phoenix in years.
Up here near my summer hideout in Minnesota a few of the aspen leaves are already turning. In a couple hours I'll be headed to my favorite lake on the Canadian border and hoping the big gals are on the reefs and hungry.
And I get to return home to a nice ribeye and an Illini football game. Life is good.
And I get to return home to a nice ribeye and an Illini football game. Life is good.
Do you actually believe if guns did not exist in the US that the murder and suicide rates would remain the same?
Is that the idea now, take all the guns away?
The party that didn’t care about the cartel and prison gangs pouring through our border with weapons and drugs, wants to take guns away from Americans.
Another note for the party that wants to take away everyone’s guns.
Enforce the laws we already have. More gun control will not matter if we don’t enforce laws.
I remember way back when the President’s son committed crime related to guns, and the party that wants more gun control responded with “well ya, people lie”. Don’t want to hear about gun control from the party that routinely puts violent criminals back on the streets.
Enforce the laws we already have. More gun control will not matter if we don’t enforce laws.
I remember way back when the President’s son committed crime related to guns, and the party that wants more gun control responded with “well ya, people lie”. Don’t want to hear about gun control from the party that routinely puts violent criminals back on the streets.
It is a hypothetical. Those who are against gun control always say it won’t work so if you take it to the logical extreme would it make a difference? Yes or no.
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More guns in red states more murders in red states. I guess guns do matter.
More guns in red states more murders in red states. I guess guns do matter.
Provide any statiscal evidence that blue states put more violent criminals back on the streets.
I am not for taking away everyone's guns but there is no reason for anyone to have assault weapons with high capacity magazines. Absolutely none.
More guns in red states. Do you have specific information on where the murders take place in said red states and who is actually doing the murdering or is this just a twisted way of including all the murders in blue cities in said red states?
How many AR-15 or other “assault weapons” have you ever fired at a gun range?
I’m sure Train and Jeff can tell us why wage growth is very strong in what they have declared is a “weak labor market”. Have at it fellas.
Removing close to 2,000,000 illegals from the low paying job market will help the LEGAL job seekers for income !
The lethality of a gun is more a result of the caliber AND MOST IMPORTANT the ability of the shooter to hit anything.
Not the "look" of the firearm !
Last week a gunfight occurred with friendly fire from NYPD !
One undercover Narcotic Detective was fired on by 2 in uniform Patrolmen !
One fired his entire .9 MM pistol magazine of 16 shots, the other pistol 5 shots.
The undercover Detective was hit 2 times of 21 shots fired !
MORE INFO; Every NYPD were responding to a possible armed car jacking attempt. Criminal apprehended had 10 arrests of assault and robbery. Was on parole for armed assault. This was his THIRD car jacking that day.
There was no weapon seen at the scene.
Adrenaline can make you do stupid stuff.
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It actually states in the article that if you removed major cities from the analysis of red states the rate is still 12% higher in red states than blue.
If pro-gun people would just admit that they are willing to have a higher rates of gun deaths for a culture of unrestricted guns, I could accept that. It is just ludicrous to pretend that gun laws would not have an impact on gun deaths.
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We BEG you to not start making statements of proof on STATISTICS !
How about that there are too many firearm fatalities in the United States !
I know of 3 NJSP Troopers hit by firearms, 2 are dead 1 was wounded and recovered.
I also know of 2 NJSP Troopers who committed suicide with their duty weapon, neither survived.
How about that there are too many firearm fatalities in the United States !
I know of 3 NJSP Troopers hit by firearms, 2 are dead 1 was wounded and recovered.
I also know of 2 NJSP Troopers who committed suicide with their duty weapon, neither survived.
That's really not the reason the murders are higher. It's a combination of demographics and culture; it has very little to do with guns. You can get a gun pretty easily anywhere in the US.
If you live in a red state with a strong gun culture, more people will have guns and will use them.
Presently it is easy to to get guns anywhere. The US is basically a nation without any gun control laws.
Posters are saying better law enforcement is the answer. If that were true, then red states would have lower murder rates. Better law enforcement does help, but you need gun control laws to make more of a difference.
It's not "gun culture" that is a contributor here. It's "honor culture," which the South once had. Dispute resolution is typically less robust in an honor culture.
But demographics are the big driver here. Something like 55-60% of murders are committed by black men, who happen to disproportionately live in the South.
The gun claim is dumb. Iowa, Kansas, the Dakotas, and so on are quite red (Kansas the single most reliably GOP state in the country, I believe), and there's always been few murders in them. Very low black population, no honor culture, very low homicides. The politics aren't a thing here.
One interesting thing about homicides in the black community is how much they are driven by the location. Black Americans who live in rural communities have a staggeringly lower rate of homicide than those in large urban cities. It goes from something like 8x than average for black Americans in large urban cities to black Americans in rural cities basically being at the national average.
Again, if you remove large urban areas from red states, the murder rate is still higher than blue states.
I have no interest in guns. My dad was a hunter and had guns. He tried to get me interested but to no avail. I don't hate guns; I just have no interest.
Somehow you seemed to have entirely missed the point. Until you account for demographics and region, this is basically meaningless.
The South has a higher rate of homicide than other regions do, for reasons I explained (I'm just commenting on the white population here). The Great Plains have a very low rate. Both are pretty darn red and pretty darn "pro-gun."
You are making a point about a topic you don't seem to understand. Homicide rates in the US are driven primarily by demographics and secondarily by regional culture. "Guns" do mean that the US collectively has a higher rate than Europe, but they do nothing to explain the disparity you are bleating about.
If you reduce access to guns, there would be fewer gun related deaths. It is as simple as that. The US will likely never get to the point of meaningful gun control so we will continue to lead the developed world in gun related deaths. Congress can't even pass a universal background check law so I am well aware nothing will change.
Aren’t murder #s declining despite record gun numbers in this country?
This is a huge walk back from the argument you are making about disparities WITHIN AMERICA.
The Northeast doesn't have a lower homicide rate because it has less guns. It has one because the culture is less conducive to homicidal violence.
The Northeast has a higher homicide rate than similarly situated European nations because of access to guns.
These are hugely important distinctions in accounting for outcomes.
If one believes that Americans has the right to bear arms - a clear selection of liberty over the competing value of safety - guns may mean more homicides in the US generally BUT THEY ARE NOT THE REASON BETWEEN DISPARITIES BETWEEN "RED STATES" AND "BLUE STATES." Farmers in South Dakota tend to be armed to the teeth AND THEY BASICALLY NEVER COMMIT HOMICIDE!
NOT a single liberal called for banning guns when President Trump was shot !
You’re asking for a stat that no one tracks. No one is volunteering a tracker of the dangerous criminals they release, but there is plenty of evidence of it in cities like NYC, Chicago, Denver, etc. It’s the same people/gangs repeatedly committing crime.
This feels similar to the people who discussed Venezuelan gangs committing a ton of crime the last couple years. The response from the left was “statistically, non citizens commit less crime”. People in the area talked about what was actually happening, and people on the left dismissed reality for “statistics”.
You’re ignoring reality if you don’t think Dem areas are putting a lot of violent criminals right back on the streets. They constantly talk about rehab instead of incarceration, it’s right there for you to see. And it results in a lot of bad people getting released repeatedly, only to see them commit more crime.
The liberals want the American people disarmed. Look what’s happening in Britain with the muslims running rampant and raping and killing all those young girls. Nobody has guns there so they can’t defend themselves and law enforcement looks the other way so the criminals don’t even get in trouble most of the time. The socialists and communists want nothing more than for us to be disarmed. Our government can’t push us around because of the millions of people with millions of guns.
Yes, psycho trannies can get their hands on guns and do damage. The dumba$$ dems need to stop acting like changing genders is a real thing, further warping and angering those with confused minds.
I actually went off on a tangent that I really don't care about. The truth is that when another school shooting occurs the most honest response people can give is that "It is a tragedy but the US values the freedom of gun ownership over a few lives lost." That is the tradeoff people in this country are willing to make.
Tariffs didn’t hurt the US. This is the reason countries will cave.