@bmarcello: New MSU blog post: It's on: Mississippi State will face Oklahoma State in 2013 http://t.co/d8WnK7VP #msstate
It's official MSU will play OSU in 2013
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I don't like it. I see Stricklin has a different idea on scheduling than Byrne. I like the guaranteed win cupcakes personally but if we do win that game it would be huge for our program.
Gives our team motivation in the offseason
The best part about this game is the motivation it will give our team during the off season. Coming off what could be an exceptional year, there is the risk that our players could get "fat and happy" with people patting them on the back. Saban often talks about why he loves to play tough games to begin the year. He claims that it helps the team stay focused in the off season. Unfortunately, like Auburn, if you lose, it can really set you back. We'll see
The best part about this game is the motivation it will give our team during the off season. Coming off what could be an exceptional year, there is the risk that our players could get "fat and happy" with people patting them on the back. Saban often talks about why he loves to play tough games to begin the year. He claims that it helps the team stay focused in the off season. Unfortunately, like Auburn, if you lose, it can really set you back. We'll see
Now that wouldn't have anything to do with our situation being different from 2 years ago would it?
Bear in mind that we are likely going to replace Tennessee with Vanderbilt next year and that we are likely to play Texas A&M at home again. If we are going to do this- and the rumors are true- then next year is not a bad time to do this.
I'm excited about this. I'll be there. I think it is a good idea. I agree with the others that it can keep the team focused. Like the fact that we still have 7 home games. Guess we bought out the UAB road game?
We're not the ones who will play A&M at home again next year. Bama is. Bama has 4 home division games this year and 2 road games. A&M has 4 road games and 2 home games. Everyone else is 3 and 3. The easiest way to fix this is to just have A&M go to Bama again next year. And that's what the SEC will do. Where are you hearing that Vandy will be our rotating opponent next season? I'm guessing it will probably be either them or Missouri, but that's just a guess.
Can't believe this..
..no comment in this thread has mentioned how this game will be great for recruiting. WTF? If this game would have taken place 2 years ago, sixpackspeak.com would be going nuts over what a tremendous boon this game would be for recruiting. Word to sixpack: Please get back on message.
..no comment in this thread has mentioned how this game will be great for recruiting. WTF? If this game would have taken place 2 years ago, sixpackspeak.com would be going nuts over what a tremendous boon this game would be for recruiting. Word to sixpack: Please get back on message.
"If this game would have taken place 2 years ago, sixpackspeak.com would be going nuts over what a tremendous boon this game would be for recruiting."
I believe your username is perfectly chosen considering that statement. SPS 2 years ago would have been wondering why we would be considering this just like SPS is right now. Most have been pretty damn consistent that our OOC games need to be W's.
I believe your username is perfectly chosen considering that statement. SPS 2 years ago would have been wondering why we would be considering this just like SPS is right now. Most have been pretty damn consistent that our OOC games need to be W's.
I love it and think it is a great idea. The only thing that sucks about these game is there are always players suspended game one
i guess i'm one of the few MSU fans that doesn't like beating my chest over an extra W when that W comes against alcorn st or whoever. if we need 4 gimme OOC Ws just to get bowl eligible, then we don't deserve a bowl. and i'm not one that's gonna get wrapped up in the prestige of the cotton both v. the chic-fil-a bowl or whatever if we go 8-4 instead of 9-3 due to an L to okie st to start the season. imo you play to win championships, and you win championships by beating teams like okie st, not by sticking with the mentality that you need 4 easy OOC games just to make sure you get bowl eligible.
Lets see OSU, Bama, Tigers, Hogs, Auburn, Black Bears, Vols / Vandy, Aggies, Wildcats, 3 NC ......
Should make for a Hell of a year one way or another.....
Should make for a Hell of a year one way or another.....
Why would it be Vandy? Did the change the rotation to playing a team once every 6 years or are we still doing a home and home with the east?
Like 5 other people will say this after I will, but the only way we're winning championships is if we lose at the most 1 game. Doing that in the SEC is good as is. Why hurt your chances to do that with beefing up your OOC?
WTF? Beating teams like OkSt has nothing to do with winning championships.
You win championships by being in the top two in the final BCS Ranking and then winning the National Championship game. You don't have to drop down and play a team like OkSt when you play teams better than them. We'll pretty much always play at least one if not two teams better than OkSt in the SEC West, and if we're in the national championship hunt, we'll play a team better than them in the SEC championship game.
I'm not adamantly against playing a team like OkSt, but it's much better for the team to play in better bowl games. In years we play an OOC team like OkSt and win, it will barely help us if at all in bowl selection, but in years where we lose, it will almost certainly drop us down one or more bowl spots. That's not a good gamble for us.
You win championships by being in the top two in the final BCS Ranking and then winning the National Championship game. You don't have to drop down and play a team like OkSt when you play teams better than them. We'll pretty much always play at least one if not two teams better than OkSt in the SEC West, and if we're in the national championship hunt, we'll play a team better than them in the SEC championship game.
I'm not adamantly against playing a team like OkSt, but it's much better for the team to play in better bowl games. In years we play an OOC team like OkSt and win, it will barely help us if at all in bowl selection, but in years where we lose, it will almost certainly drop us down one or more bowl spots. That's not a good gamble for us.
I read that we're getting a huge payday from this. No one had mentioned that yet.
2 years ago we couldn't have paid ESPN to give us a kickoff game. Now we're padding our budget. I don't care if no other fans from across the SEC respect Dan or think he's a good coach, he's 100% responsible for this kind of stuff right here.
2 years ago we couldn't have paid ESPN to give us a kickoff game. Now we're padding our budget. I don't care if no other fans from across the SEC respect Dan or think he's a good coach, he's 100% responsible for this kind of stuff right here.
That's just what I've been hearing from people
Supposedly it came from Scott. I admit I didn't hear it from Scott myself. What I was told is it wasn't a done deal type of thing, but I had heard this a month ago, and I was told that was one of the things that we were waiting for was the SEC schedule to come out as well as if we could move the UAB game to another year.
Those were the two hang-ups on our end at the time.
Scott is supposedly holding firm to our scheduling philosophy- seven home games and making sure that we have a managable schedule. If that rumor is true- then Scott is being true to his word as well as getting us into a pre-season bowl game that will net us a good bit of money and exposure. Good move on his part if all of this is true.
And yes, I agree that is the easiest fix to the SEC schedule with A&M and Bama, but remember LT does the schedule.
Supposedly it came from Scott. I admit I didn't hear it from Scott myself. What I was told is it wasn't a done deal type of thing, but I had heard this a month ago, and I was told that was one of the things that we were waiting for was the SEC schedule to come out as well as if we could move the UAB game to another year.
Those were the two hang-ups on our end at the time.
Scott is supposedly holding firm to our scheduling philosophy- seven home games and making sure that we have a managable schedule. If that rumor is true- then Scott is being true to his word as well as getting us into a pre-season bowl game that will net us a good bit of money and exposure. Good move on his part if all of this is true.
And yes, I agree that is the easiest fix to the SEC schedule with A&M and Bama, but remember LT does the schedule.
Supposedly
We will continue to have Kentucky as a permanant opponent and then the other SEC East team will rotate every year between the other six. The question is what the rotation will look like.
That's the SEC's way of keeping Bama and UT's and Auburn and UGA's rivalries going every year.
We will continue to have Kentucky as a permanant opponent and then the other SEC East team will rotate every year between the other six. The question is what the rotation will look like.
That's the SEC's way of keeping Bama and UT's and Auburn and UGA's rivalries going every year.
This.
People can laugh now, but IF we manage to keep Brewster around, we are going to pick off a couple players out of Texas next year. We have, according to Rivals, the #1 recruiter in the last decade in Texas. We may not steal them from Texas, A&M, or LSU, but we can compete with virtually every other school for those kids. I expect us to start getting some of the Beniquez Brown, Josh Robinson, Dak Prescott, etc type of kids out of east Texas
it's worth playing this game for recruiting purposes alone. nationally televised in a recruiting hotbed. also, we are currently ranked 19th despite being 5-0 because our non-conference schedule is a joke. we are behind like 7 teams with a loss. yall know who started the year much farther off the radar but is currently a top 10 team? oregon st. why? because they didn't shy away from wisconsin and they beat them. also, i like over 1000 miles from starkville, so i'm happy to make 1 home game a year. i'll probably make a special trip to houston though. i'd never make a trip for jackson st or mtsu or whoever. hell, it's hard for me to watch us pummel a ****** program when there's quality games going on and i'm a lifelong bulldog fan. i can't imagine recruits are intrigued to watch us come out flat against crappy football programs. i see the positives of this game far outweighing the negatives. i'm not concerned abut going to the chic-fil-a bowl v. the cotton bowl, however, i would like an early season marquee W that might launch us high enough to be in contention for an at-large BCS spot.
I agree. We should have no problem making a bowl game next year whether we win or lose this game. It will give us a lot of good national publicity, a good payday, and a good game for recruiting. Even a loss won't really hurt us and we'll still have 7 home games. Generally speaking, I'm against playing major conference teams in OOC games unless it's a doormat. And so is Scott Stricklin. But this game is a good one for us. I would have a different opinion if we were using this to replace the MVSU game. Glad to see Stricklin is replacing the at UAB game instead.
The only reason I think they would flip the MSU-Bama series is if we were pushing for it. The SEC has taken the easy way around reschedling games for the expansion and they will continue to do so, LT or no LT. But they would be doing us a huge favor to get us out of the 17ed up situation we've been in for a decade where we play UM-LSU-Bama either all at home or all on the road. Now that I think more about it, I could definitely see us pushing for that and having LT in a position of influence would be a big help. I hope it does happen.
I think the fact Stricklin is moving or buying out the road game at UAB shows that he's still committed to 7 home games. That's something I don't think will ever change.
I think the fact Stricklin is moving or buying out the road game at UAB shows that he's still committed to 7 home games. That's something I don't think will ever change.
Like Jackie Sherrill used to say
It doesn't matter what you do in Sept. It's what you do in November that people remember. Our ranking right now doesn't matter. If we beat UT and Texas A&M and whomever else, our ranking will take care of itself. We will ultimately be ranked where we are supposed to be at the end of the year. If we were to have a dream season and beat Bama, LSU on the road and either South Carolina or Florida at a neutral site- our BCS rating will be fine.
Right now, I've heard us mentioned several times on ESPN about how we are 5-0 and a team to watch. That's good exposure that we might not have gotten with a tough non-conference schedule.
The way we have it set up, we have a better chance of winning in November because we aren't beat up and we've been able to play a lot of people which builds our depth and we've been able to work on things that we needed to work on- like the deep passing game- and still win. We also have more big games that count when it really matters- at the end of the year. That helps with recruiting because recruits will be going to our games at the end of the season rather than at the beginning.
And for whatever it's worth, I've never once read a recuit's article where the player said- "well, I saw MSU play here in Houston and I got interested in them" and when we have played in Texas- I haven't noticed a big mass influx of Texas football players going to MSU. All told, you're probably talking about getting one maybe two recruits and they're both going to be Shane McCardell types.
It doesn't matter what you do in Sept. It's what you do in November that people remember. Our ranking right now doesn't matter. If we beat UT and Texas A&M and whomever else, our ranking will take care of itself. We will ultimately be ranked where we are supposed to be at the end of the year. If we were to have a dream season and beat Bama, LSU on the road and either South Carolina or Florida at a neutral site- our BCS rating will be fine.
Right now, I've heard us mentioned several times on ESPN about how we are 5-0 and a team to watch. That's good exposure that we might not have gotten with a tough non-conference schedule.
The way we have it set up, we have a better chance of winning in November because we aren't beat up and we've been able to play a lot of people which builds our depth and we've been able to work on things that we needed to work on- like the deep passing game- and still win. We also have more big games that count when it really matters- at the end of the year. That helps with recruiting because recruits will be going to our games at the end of the season rather than at the beginning.
And for whatever it's worth, I've never once read a recuit's article where the player said- "well, I saw MSU play here in Houston and I got interested in them" and when we have played in Texas- I haven't noticed a big mass influx of Texas football players going to MSU. All told, you're probably talking about getting one maybe two recruits and they're both going to be Shane McCardell types.
Don't be 17ing stupid.
It's not like the OkSt game is a terrible deal, but the Oregon St. argument is moronic. We have 7 more games to play, and if we win them, we'll go to the SEC championship game. We'll have plenty of time to pass oregon st. in the polls if we're good enough. I can't imagine who will give a **** at that point that Oregon St. was ranked higher than us in early October. And if we're not good enough to pass them in the final polls, adding another potential loss in September is not going to help us either.
And as far as an at-large BCS spot, how the hell do we have so many posters on this board that are not college football fans? For those of you that don't watch college football, the SEC is 17ing good. It's significantly down this year, and it's still the best conference. We don't need a tougher OOC schedule to get to a BCS game. When we can win the conference games we play, we will go to a BCS game. Beating a decent to good team out of conference is not going to get us to a BCS bowl if we don't go at least 7-1 in conference.
And as far as recruiting goes, I'd much rather recruits see us playing in the Cotton Bowl than an early season game against OkSt. I've got to think you are in a tiny minority that doesn't want us to be in the best bowl possible.
I'll enjoy the hell out of this game, and I'm excited to see us play it. If we win, it will be a great deal (and although it's a long ways off to be making a prediction, I think we will win). But the potential harm if we lose is much greater. It could be the difference between the cotton bowl and chic-fil-a, or more likely if we're not good enough to beat OkSt, the difference between the gator bowl and the music city or liberty. And that's the problem with these games.
It's just a little early for us to be doing this. I'd be all for it once we have established a three to four year streak of going to bowls better than Music City Bowl and have good balance in our recruiting classes. At that point, we'll need to do something like this to take the next step. Until then, we're risking a lot for not much gain.
It's not like the OkSt game is a terrible deal, but the Oregon St. argument is moronic. We have 7 more games to play, and if we win them, we'll go to the SEC championship game. We'll have plenty of time to pass oregon st. in the polls if we're good enough. I can't imagine who will give a **** at that point that Oregon St. was ranked higher than us in early October. And if we're not good enough to pass them in the final polls, adding another potential loss in September is not going to help us either.
And as far as an at-large BCS spot, how the hell do we have so many posters on this board that are not college football fans? For those of you that don't watch college football, the SEC is 17ing good. It's significantly down this year, and it's still the best conference. We don't need a tougher OOC schedule to get to a BCS game. When we can win the conference games we play, we will go to a BCS game. Beating a decent to good team out of conference is not going to get us to a BCS bowl if we don't go at least 7-1 in conference.
And as far as recruiting goes, I'd much rather recruits see us playing in the Cotton Bowl than an early season game against OkSt. I've got to think you are in a tiny minority that doesn't want us to be in the best bowl possible.
I'll enjoy the hell out of this game, and I'm excited to see us play it. If we win, it will be a great deal (and although it's a long ways off to be making a prediction, I think we will win). But the potential harm if we lose is much greater. It could be the difference between the cotton bowl and chic-fil-a, or more likely if we're not good enough to beat OkSt, the difference between the gator bowl and the music city or liberty. And that's the problem with these games.
It's just a little early for us to be doing this. I'd be all for it once we have established a three to four year streak of going to bowls better than Music City Bowl and have good balance in our recruiting classes. At that point, we'll need to do something like this to take the next step. Until then, we're risking a lot for not much gain.
You keep spouting BCS this and BCS that, but this is the last year of the BCS. And we Play OK St next year. And next year, the 4 teams will be picked by a panel just like college basketball is picked. So you better damn well believe that SOS or perception of SOS will come in to play.
It will also most assuredly be an FCS school of some sort. Aside from the OK ST game we also have Troy and Bowling Green set to be in Starkville so with those 3 set I can almost guarantee you that the 4th OOC game will be FCS.