Is there a difference in “sponsored by” and “wear”? Just asking because of the way it’s worded in your response and I have no idea the difference. Thanks again.
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The same cats like to cry when people bring race into the equation but the undertones in the posts are why they’re called racially motivated. Nobody is trying to be “woke”. Fact, you and many others villainized Ty White and the coach up at Hayfield (not you but some cats that liked your posts) and compared them to some vile people. A coach in NoVA even compared Hayfield’s coach to a child predator simply based off of “cheating allegations”. You compared Ty White to Ted Bundy.. You’re a smart man. W&M grad and I’ve followed your posts for years and enjoy them. It’s easy to call us out for bringing race into the equation but let’s also look at why?
You and I both agree that AAU is playing a big factor on these high school basketball programs’ success. If you ask me, high school ball is trash because of this AAU phenomenon. Back in the day, you’d have maybe 100 AAU teams in America and they were all highly competitive. Now there’s at least 7 in areas like Richmond, Tidewater, & Northern VA alone.. That’s 21 AAU teams in the state and we haven’t even talked about the 2-3 in Roanoke, Danville, Lynchburg, etc , each.. Too many hands in the pot and too many wannabe coaches out here. AAU is fine and dandy if P4/pro development is taking place but I’m old school and like team camps and high school summer tournaments where it’s helping teams get better and developing the younger guys for in game experience.
How do you think Radford, Martinsville, Brunswick, Lee Staunton, etc became state powerhouses? Numerous kids to big time schools? Dang sure wasn’t because of AAU!
1. There were absolutely ZERO racial overtones and YOU brought race into the equation. YOU did. Is this the point where I have to start listing all of black friends in order to "not for sure be a racist?" What about my wife who is half black by the way and my mother in law (who is black) who has been like a mother to me for 25 years. Would that matter? Hell no. It wouldn't because some of you guys bring race into any issue just like it's a muscle memory or default. It's almost like you've been trained to go to "race" when you disagree with someone. For the love of God, give it a rest. It's so old.
2. Want to know why I never comment on the Hayfield situation or Palmer at Graham who also gets accused of recruiting? Because they are doing nothing wrong. I am not talking about "Legal vs Illegal." I'm talking about Right and Wrong.
3. Palmer at Graham and the guy formerly at Freedom built their programs WITHOUT an UNFAIR advantage or opportunity. They did well. They won. What do kids in the area want to do? They want to play for a winner, so kids want to play for them and they win more. Same thing happened at Radford and Martinsville back in the day with H. Hall in Hoops.
4..Ty White is Different. The guy at Liberty is Different. They have an UNFAIR opportunity/an advantage over 99 percent of their peers because the AAU connection at JM brought kids there and continues to bring kids there. At Liberty, it's just straight up money and literally a private school playing public which is essentially corruption in plain view as far as I'm concerned. I think what JMs AD and White are doing is dishonest and a form of cheating. Liberty is borderline criminal and more than just "right and wrong." I'm no lawyer, but they are bordering on illegal IF..IF the VHSL had a set of balls.
5. For AAU, it keeps kids on the court, working on their skills, puts them around their peers and it keeps them out of trouble across the country whether city or rural or wherever. I think it's an absolutely AWESOME thing. I've just said what I've always thought about AAU. Don't allow the AAU coach to coach HS or Junior High and it fixes 95 percent of the issues.
6. My problem with Ty White is as follows. He's still in Class 2 and that tells me, there's a character flaw there. Something is wrong. This bothers me actually MORE than the AAU connection. Same for Liberty. If you have an unfair advantage and the Coach at Liberty and Ty White both deep down, they know they do, and if you have that unfair advantage, for the love of God, have some internal decency, some character, a conscience, some kind of self reflection to rectify the problem by playing up.
7. I'm done with this thread. Time for me to let it go. I've said what I wanted to say about JM regarding whether I think what they are doing is right and/or fair. I stand by that point of view and have clearly given reasons to support my Opinion, just like everyone else has an opinion for or against. No need to beat a dead horse.
2. Want to know why I never comment on the Hayfield situation or Palmer at Graham who also gets accused of recruiting? Because they are doing nothing wrong. I am not talking about "Legal vs Illegal." I'm talking about Right and Wrong.
3. Palmer at Graham and the guy formerly at Freedom built their programs WITHOUT an UNFAIR advantage or opportunity. They did well. They won. What do kids in the area want to do? They want to play for a winner, so kids want to play for them and they win more. Same thing happened at Radford and Martinsville back in the day with H. Hall in Hoops.
4..Ty White is Different. The guy at Liberty is Different. They have an UNFAIR opportunity/an advantage over 99 percent of their peers because the AAU connection at JM brought kids there and continues to bring kids there. At Liberty, it's just straight up money and literally a private school playing public which is essentially corruption in plain view as far as I'm concerned. I think what JMs AD and White are doing is dishonest and a form of cheating. Liberty is borderline criminal and more than just "right and wrong." I'm no lawyer, but they are bordering on illegal IF..IF the VHSL had a set of balls.
5. For AAU, it keeps kids on the court, working on their skills, puts them around their peers and it keeps them out of trouble across the country whether city or rural or wherever. I think it's an absolutely AWESOME thing. I've just said what I've always thought about AAU. Don't allow the AAU coach to coach HS or Junior High and it fixes 95 percent of the issues.
6. My problem with Ty White is as follows. He's still in Class 2 and that tells me, there's a character flaw there. Something is wrong. This bothers me actually MORE than the AAU connection. Same for Liberty. If you have an unfair advantage and the Coach at Liberty and Ty White both deep down, they know they do, and if you have that unfair advantage, for the love of God, have some internal decency, some character, a conscience, some kind of self reflection to rectify the problem by playing up.
7. I'm done with this thread. Time for me to let it go. I've said what I wanted to say about JM regarding whether I think what they are doing is right and/or fair. I stand by that point of view and have clearly given reasons to support my Opinion, just like everyone else has an opinion for or against. No need to beat a dead horse.
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Tell u bunch of cheaters Tazewell. Throwin punchs an pokin eyebals an grabbin ur sack underneeth pile cawz they tryin 2 hurt GMen out thar. U bring on Hamptons Liberty Rustvile Attomatx up heer 2 Mitchell an we givin tha buzines. Bring em all. If james marshell comes 2 Mitchell we gonna givem tha business 2
Just so everyone knows - “Hokie1Pokie” is actually “Fairlawncat” posting under a different name.
It’s not funny. Not really sure what he’s trying to accomplish by keeping it up. It’s just kind of sad.
I wasn’t speaking about LCA. The school I’m talking about uses the country roads to get to the top!
If you are referring to Graham football (?), I doubt anybody thinks they could beat Maury or LCA or Salem. Isn’t it usually 50/50 between them and Union? If they are getting transfers, they need to consult with JM on how to do it better!
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Congratulations young man! I remember first hearing about him when he was playing on the varsity as an 8th grader for Southern Pines (N.C.) O’Neal School! Very talented player…hope UVA is on his radar…they could really use a player with his skill.
Nobody wins or loses an argument on VaPreps, it’s just banter, for such a sharp guy like yourself. Hug your “half” black wife for me, since she validates your black card! The only true loss we can speak of is Radford by 57 points and 39 points respectively. Ran the slender mixed kid, coaches son and coach up out of there. Truth!
Any streams for this one? I don’t think Woodside is on the same level as JM but I hope they prove me wrong.
Yeah buddy is full of himself and confused. We’re just a bunch of uneducated imbeciles compared to him. First Ty White is Ted Bundy then it’s he doesn’t blame Ty White cause he’d do the same
what the hell? Have a problem with the way a person is winning is one thing but to vilify a person and compare them to awful people is exactly what we’re calling them out to be. I’ll be the first to tell you that I don’t agree with everything Coach Prime does but we can never take away the differences he’s making in kids’ lives (all races) but to hear the media tell it, he’s all about himself and sons and has a toxic culture. Just one of many examples I can use on how certain people see minority coaches.Idk bro, Woodside is very well coached. I like their guard play. I’m a VCU grad and I’m not a big fan of their big man who signed with us. Buddy gone have to bring it if they want to beat John Marshall. A huge part in beating them is containing Allmond on the glass.
Graham could absolutely play with all 3 of those teams
Graham could’ve played with Salem this year but you’re insane if you think Graham can hang with Maury, LCA, Phoebus, Green Run, Varina, Highland Springs, etc. The premier teams in the state. I’m a Graham fan by the way.
I always respect your POV but we don’t always agree, we had our back and forth talking about Maury football and kids actions but never was it a mud slinging match. Much respect, I usually sit 5 rows back, mid court on the bench side, at Siegel during the state games. Pop up on me.Yeah buddy is full of himself and confused. We’re just a bunch of uneducated imbeciles compared to him. First Ty White is Ted Bundy then it’s he doesn’t blame Ty White cause he’d do the same
I remember now bro. I like Priv but the stuff he was saying was insane
I’m happy for him and Maury. I think he’ll get his chance to coach at the college level. I’ll definitely do that brother. I’ll be at plenty games come playoff time. I wanted to catch the Woodside/JM game Saturday.. Definitely have to catch the games at the Scope. C5 and C4 in the 757 going to be must see tv.
Yeah they are well coached and Stef is my guy and I love his style of coaching but JM is a national program at this point. This is just another game for JM but I’m sure Woodside had this game circled day 1.
Woodside could win but I wouldn’t be shocked if JM ran away with this one.
I know you weren’t talking to me but what bothers me most about these kind of convos is that it’s just high school sports at the end of the day. Why do certain people care as much as they do to make these comparisons? Rather it is Ty White or Darryl Overton, these dudes are making impacts in kids lives. Often times giving these kids the only direct positive male influence in their life and we have people tearing these men down. I don’t even know how you entertain these back and forths honestly.Yeah buddy is full of himself and confused. We’re just a bunch of uneducated imbeciles compared to him. First Ty White is Ted Bundy then it’s he doesn’t blame Ty White cause he’d do the same
So you’re comparing kids coming from up and down the east coast to play at John Marshall to a kid that may transfer to Graham from across the state line? Yeah, definitely the same thing.
You realize kids in SWVA transfer to neighboring schools or locales all the time , right? Union has players from Lee Co. Lebanon is the recipient of several Honaker kids. Richlands used to get transfers from WV, Honaker, etc. There are kids from McDowell County, WV that go to Tazewell. The list could go on…honestly, I don’t begrudge any kid going to where they think will be the best fit for them whether it’s a player for JM or any other school. Parents do what they think is best for their child and will afford them the best opportunities.
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Nothing wrong with wanting to better yourself or better your kids.
Everything wrong with coaches initiating it and administration allowing it!
We have some very good talent collectors in the state!
They’ve made it to where you have to get in the gray to compete.
Everything wrong with coaches initiating it and administration allowing it!
We have some very good talent collectors in the state!
They’ve made it to where you have to get in the gray to compete.
Nah you’re 100% right bro. Just strikes a nerve to see so many people come at those guys, spread false news and not have anybody speak up. They’ve came at one of my best friends who took me under his wing and showed me the game and I been on go mode ever since. Gotta let them have it..
So a Radford guy posting under the guise of a Graham fan? That seems kind of far fetched. Did you just pull this theory out of thin air or do you have evidence to support your accusation ? Wait, that sounds a bit lawyer-ish
I’m going to have to find that football thread from last year for the Radford/Graham game. That’s another level of hard work bantering back & forth with oneself posing as two different people from two different fan bases on a sports board. I admire his dedication to the charade if what you say is true.
That is the new right wing strategy to victim blame and use hyperbole to try to divert attention from them. And that is all I am going to say about that - I prefer sports talk like the good ole day when JM was in Class 3. Next year TJ and Armstrong football are in for a treat.
So a Radford guy posting under the guise of a Graham fan? That seems kind of far fetched. Did you just pull this theory out of thin air or do you have evidence to support your accusation ? Wait, that sounds a bit lawyer-ish
I’m going to have to find that football thread from last year for the Radford/Graham game. That’s another level of hard work bantering back & forth with oneself posing as two different people from two different fan bases on a sports board. I admire his dedication to the charade if what you say is true.
I’m not a lawyer but I rest my case…
That’s pretty good evidence! That’s why I said it’s too much work!
I’m not a lawyer but I rest my case…
You’ll get those personalities crossed in the wrong direction . Or what if you’re Hokie Pokie trying to convince everyone it’s Fairlawncat like a setup ? Even far fetched is sometimes reality.
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Fairlawn Cat gone name it the Ted Bundy ClassicTeam Loaded Presents
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Now forgive me for bringing up a horse that’s already been beaten…but isn’t the foundation of legal and illegal … right and wrong?
@Fairlawncat maybe this is me staying in my 8th grade pea brain but both legality and morality are both subjective to the society they’re formed within? Merely opinions and not facts, example laws in the US that don’t exist elsewhere or forgive me for being political whether or not there’s more than two genders. Fact being the US has a set of laws that governs it , whether they apply in Canada or Mexico doesn’t change what happens in the US and biologically there’s two chromosomes that define what person is born as and their reproductive organs generally match the chromosome pairing. All of this to say you’re entitled to your OPINION of JM , the bball program and coach , but doesn’t mean that bc you think they’re cheating they are or much less exuding a lack of a moral compass.
The thing about facts is they don’t change, fact is JM in within Richmond and bc of the way the school district set up zoning and attendance , some athletes don’t have to walk the halls of said school to play a sport bc they attend a specialized school. JM does have transfers from local and non local areas, but if they were recruited it’s not solely for them to come get a VHSL class 2A state ring which is all going to JM gives them. So I don’t see the tremendous benefit they gain by being there … but again at its purist form :
People love to villainize winning, it’s apart of the cycle, but the thing about all of this is youre only the big fish when you’re not in the ocean once you’re there you’re just another fish.
@Fairlawncat maybe this is me staying in my 8th grade pea brain but both legality and morality are both subjective to the society they’re formed within? Merely opinions and not facts, example laws in the US that don’t exist elsewhere or forgive me for being political whether or not there’s more than two genders. Fact being the US has a set of laws that governs it , whether they apply in Canada or Mexico doesn’t change what happens in the US and biologically there’s two chromosomes that define what person is born as and their reproductive organs generally match the chromosome pairing. All of this to say you’re entitled to your OPINION of JM , the bball program and coach , but doesn’t mean that bc you think they’re cheating they are or much less exuding a lack of a moral compass.
The thing about facts is they don’t change, fact is JM in within Richmond and bc of the way the school district set up zoning and attendance , some athletes don’t have to walk the halls of said school to play a sport bc they attend a specialized school. JM does have transfers from local and non local areas, but if they were recruited it’s not solely for them to come get a VHSL class 2A state ring which is all going to JM gives them. So I don’t see the tremendous benefit they gain by being there … but again at its purist form :
People love to villainize winning, it’s apart of the cycle, but the thing about all of this is youre only the big fish when you’re not in the ocean once you’re there you’re just another fish.
Some great games - Hopewell vs Varina - wow!Team Loaded Presents
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Wow John Marshall wins on a 3 pointer by Allmond with 2 seconds to go. Refs were home cooking at the end. Woodside to even be in this game without Wells-Stevens playing is crazy. Nobody is beating Woodside the rest of the way.
Sidenote: I haven’t been to a high school basketball game in years. When did they start having a damn announcer? Dude was annoying.
yeah man you just now having the pleasure of hearing the JM commentary, two in two out check that out smh. It’s like drinking a Guinness beer, acquired taste Fosho.
John Marshall has had this annoying announcer for years
. He tries to make the game more about him than the players. If I watch on NFHS and he's there, I turn the volume down now I think it was the second quarter. It was 5 fouls to 0 in favor of John Marshall and they play physical smh