Just heard another good source rumor Re: expansion.
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Eastern school. And who would that be? Not Virginia Tech because they've always wanted to be in the ACC. The other ACC schools wouldn't be interested either which means the only other realistic partner for them would be West Virginia. And I would not be in favor of that expansion.
After living in Maryland for over three years, I could get behind this move just because its a great road trip. That being said, they do not fit the SEC culture one bit.
Texas A&M is real close. The real question is who else comes in. Everything leans towards Clemson but it is not a benefit to the SEC. The kicker is now that Rick Perry has everything but thrown his hat in the ring for a Presidential run it will be put on hold for the time being. He is a Texas A&M grad and cannot stand to lose the campaign money from his own state. When everything shakes out somebody inTexas will be left out whether it be Tech or Baylor. I believe that it has to go before the state legislature before they could leave.
I have yet to see a scenario laid out where the ACC survives. I'm not saying I understand it, but I guess there isn't enough conference sticking power to keep it together. Given that, I think it's possible we could get a number of teams from the ACC.
that makes no sense. I don't know why any school would leave the ACC. Despite their lack of competitiveness on the football field, generally speaking, it is a solid conference with a huge and affluent television audience. The conference schools (North Carolina St. not withstanding) place a higher emphasis on academics than SEC schools. I just don't see it happening.
Network/ESPN thing. Wants to tell Texas to go 17 themselves and join the SEC. Says there are many, many other Aggies that feel the same way. BUT, they still want to play TX in regular season, of course. Assuming some day we take in A&M, who would be the other team we take?
Damn, it's nice to be in a great conf.</p>
Damn, it's nice to be in a great conf.</p>
and we certainly don't care anything about basketball. But if 16 team super-conferences are going to happen we will be forced to expand. Otherwise we will lose out on teams we could have picked up. It's like when the SEC went to 12 teams it took everyone a while to catch up while we were raking in amazing amounts of cash. The TV folks will like the super conferences and so we will have to jump. And by that I mean we will have to jump quick. Kinda sucks, I think we are better of at 12 teams.
unless it's to raid the Big East for more schools. I don't know where you're looking but I can't find a scenario that DOESN'T have the ACC surviving. It's clearly the strongest conference after the SEC, Big 10, and PAC-12. No other conference is even close. Who else would survive in the east? Not the Big East, that's for sure. There's a reason Miami, BC and VA Tech jumped at the chance to leave the Big East to join the ACC.
As for Maryland to the SEC, I just don't see why either would want the other.If (when)the SEC expands, it will be to the west. Most likely Texas A&M and Missouri.
As for Maryland to the SEC, I just don't see why either would want the other.If (when)the SEC expands, it will be to the west. Most likely Texas A&M and Missouri.
even the Maryland message boards don't know about it. I founda thread debating whether they will be asked to join the Big 10 or Big East, but no mention of the Terps to the SEC on their Scout, Rivals or 247 board. One thing for certain, the Big 10 will be taking counter-measures to try to block the SEC from taking teams they want.
Trust me, if you've ever been to a Terps football game, we don't want them. Their football atmosphere is very similar to Miss. Southern in that they like to THINK they matter but their own fans don't give a ****. Their stadium was a piece of **** and they couldn't fill it without throwing in a ticket with your Wendy's combo meal.
Maryland fans only care about basketball. In DC, Maryland basketball probably gets second most coverage to the Redskins. However, again, Terps fans are a bunch of douche bags and they'd never travel outside the Beltway to see a game of any kind. And Maryland's campus is in one of the worst suburbs of DC.
Besides that, they're okay... I don't buy that the SEC would want that TV market. If the SEC wants the DC TV market, they should go after Va Tech because they have a TON of alumni in DC and they are passionate about their team - very similar to SEC fans.
Maryland fans only care about basketball. In DC, Maryland basketball probably gets second most coverage to the Redskins. However, again, Terps fans are a bunch of douche bags and they'd never travel outside the Beltway to see a game of any kind. And Maryland's campus is in one of the worst suburbs of DC.
Besides that, they're okay... I don't buy that the SEC would want that TV market. If the SEC wants the DC TV market, they should go after Va Tech because they have a TON of alumni in DC and they are passionate about their team - very similar to SEC fans.
Board of Regents can approve it as soon as they wont with no input from the legislature..which is adjourned right now anyways.therightway said:
Hardly has anything to do with Perry's presidential run..which will become official this weekend.
Who cares about marylands football atmosphere. To me it would be a positive as far as we are concerned. It gets us in that big tv market which will increase revenue for us all the while adding a team which is quite frankly very beatable in football. Also, if they were to be in the sec, i am sure that with the increased revenue they would do what everyone else is doing which is expand. I dont see how they would not grow into a more viable fan base by playing in the sec.
and such....but as a fan of the SEC, I would hate to see it watered down with mediocre football programs, and that is exactly what Maryland is - mediocre.....Clemson would be a better fit or another school that carries a little more wieght in their football program
Foregone conclusion that aTm will be #13 (if it happens), but who is the 14th.... The only way the SEC is going to do this is if they increase the TV contracts for everyone invovled (all SEC members), and what will give them the better deal..... Who would ESPN pay the SEC more to have join the conference..... My guess is right now that Slive is already in "talks" with ESPN about what would get the SEC the best deal....
They'd fit in with at least one SEC school.
As an SEC fan that once live in DC it would have been nice to get SEC games instead of being forced to watch local ACC afternoon matchups. Marylanders do make a mean crab cake sandwich and Utz's 'Crab Chips' are quite possibly the best potato chip ever. But their fans suck, 'Fear the Turtle' was theten years ago and they're still cleaning up the debris from the riots after they won the NCAA tourney.
As an SEC fan that once live in DC it would have been nice to get SEC games instead of being forced to watch local ACC afternoon matchups. Marylanders do make a mean crab cake sandwich and Utz's 'Crab Chips' are quite possibly the best potato chip ever. But their fans suck, 'Fear the Turtle' was theten years ago and they're still cleaning up the debris from the riots after they won the NCAA tourney.
You are correct sir. The football stadium is small, and wierdly set up. The campus is okay, not ugly, not pretty...sort of like Oxford. The hoops arena is nothing to write home about. The campus is not in a good area, the traffic is awful on the freeway nearing College Park and the College Park town is very run down. The only temptation to leave campus would be to hop on the metro-rail station a mile down the road to ride intoDC.
The ACC is pretty stable and the only chance of instability there is the Big East pulling a basketball school out, but that won't happen since the Big East is already heavy with basketball only teams. I suppose if half the Big East breaks off to form their own basketball conference, they will raid the ACC, but this will not happen so long as the Big East is hailed as the king of basketball conferences. More likely is that the ACC will once again raid the Big East when the Super Conference "Judgement Day" happens. The only alternative is to go west. The Big 12 is ripe for the picking and there are some great teams available (A&M, OU, OSU, and Mizzou would be an excellent addition). I don't think any Big East team would be worth getting either.<div>
</div><div>I'm still skeptical over the whole concept of the super conference. A 14 team super conference isn't too bad; you just add an additional divisional game each year and go an extra year between inter-divisional opponents compared to the current scheduling. You also lose a non-conference game. However, a 16 team conference would require either going to a 10 game conference schedule, eliminating a inter-divisional game (meaning you can go 12 years between playing an east team assuming you keep a permanent rival), or go to a system of four 4-team pods where the pods are paired up for two years and you have permanent inter-pod rivalries. The only problem with this is that the couple years when the easternmost teams are paired with the westernmost teams, you have a lot of long-distance traveling.</div>
</div><div>I'm still skeptical over the whole concept of the super conference. A 14 team super conference isn't too bad; you just add an additional divisional game each year and go an extra year between inter-divisional opponents compared to the current scheduling. You also lose a non-conference game. However, a 16 team conference would require either going to a 10 game conference schedule, eliminating a inter-divisional game (meaning you can go 12 years between playing an east team assuming you keep a permanent rival), or go to a system of four 4-team pods where the pods are paired up for two years and you have permanent inter-pod rivalries. The only problem with this is that the couple years when the easternmost teams are paired with the westernmost teams, you have a lot of long-distance traveling.</div>
If you go to 16, you either have to do the pod system you mention (which is what the old WAC tried when it tried it's 16-team experiment) or you wind up with almost 2 separate conferences. Neither option is good from a scheduling or continuity standpoint. Even with 14, you would lose a lot of inter-divisional play. If you stayed with 8 games, you'd only play teams in the other division twice every 7 years. If you went to 9, you'd go to 3 times in 7 years, but a 9th game in the SEC would be a hell of a lot tougher than in the PAC-12 or Big 12.
i think you'll just see some kinda merger between the leftover big east football playing schools and the leftover acc schools. the acc might lose 1-2 teams to the sec, and they both might lose a team or 2 to the big 10+2. that would leave ~15 or 16 schools between the 2 that could then form a 4th super conference. also, don't be surprised to see the kansas schools finagle their way into that mix too. they were already rumored last year to be on the big east radar if the big 12 fell apart. and the big east is already sprawling.<div>
</div><div>not sure what the new conference would be called, but you'd have 16 team sec, 16 team big 10, pac 16, and whatever the kansas/big east/acc meshwork would be. i think the basketball only big east schools might be fine with that too cause they are already weary of the big east adding schools for football reasons only. just go ahead and split it up.</div>
</div><div>not sure what the new conference would be called, but you'd have 16 team sec, 16 team big 10, pac 16, and whatever the kansas/big east/acc meshwork would be. i think the basketball only big east schools might be fine with that too cause they are already weary of the big east adding schools for football reasons only. just go ahead and split it up.</div>
for the Big 10. Supposedly they've been talking to the Big 10 for over a year already. I can think of a few other reasons, having been on campus for a couple of years. First, no one really cares about football, even if they have been competitive the past decade. (It doesn't help that they just fired a coach who just won ACC CoY and turned down multiple offers over the years to stay at his alma mater.) Second, they are highly competitive in many sports that the SEC doesn't care about, like lacrosse. Third, they have a bit of academic snobbery about them that would fit right into the Big 10.<div>
</div><div>They're definitely a candidate for changing conferences soon. Geographically, they don't really even fit into the ACC, they just hired a new President in November (from Iowa ... Big 10), and they have an AD with an interest in making a splash. With the DC market in their hands and the funds to be competitive in any conference, it will definitely be interesting to see where they land.</div>
</div><div>They're definitely a candidate for changing conferences soon. Geographically, they don't really even fit into the ACC, they just hired a new President in November (from Iowa ... Big 10), and they have an AD with an interest in making a splash. With the DC market in their hands and the funds to be competitive in any conference, it will definitely be interesting to see where they land.</div>
Nothing guarantees the DC market except the Redskins. It is far too transient and implanted. No one is from there. It blows my mind every time someone "guarantees" the DC market. Someone over on TigerDroppings even said VT would guarantee the DC market. If you look at a map, that's even more laughable than Maryland.Dawgpile said: