Kaepernick finds a way to stay in the news

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qwesley

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Really? How so? The US flag we use today was pre civil rights era. I don't think you can quote me as saying it represents America during a time of slavery or should be kept off merchandise. Maybe you could point that out.

Do you think it would be appropriate for a company to print Swastikas on the back of shoes? Do you think the jews would be supportive of it?
Moronic equivalence. I am saying by your own standards the same argument could be made about the current flag (and there have been instances of people being offended). The very simple point is that unless a symbol has a direct link to an oppressive event this is an asinine rabbit hole and we are worse off to bend to it.
 
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For 1 the entire state of Kentucky was above the Mason Dixon line. Secondly Somerset being in southern KY is simply a fact. I said nothing about somerset being confederate. Lastly you’re utterly and completely.....wrong. On the entire premise of this conversation

Yeah, I need to learn Geography. Through with you.

 

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Yeah, no one knew who that Super Bowl QB was. And that huge labor settlement he won from the NFL certainly means he was being offered fair contracts and there was NO C011USION!!!!
Rex grossman played in a super bowl that’s not the point though. The point is he wasn’t some unbelievable talent. He was mediocre.
 

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The op is the dumbass that bet the farm on Kentucky and lost on a last second meaningless fg. Funny as hell. It’s ironic how he now only shows up when it’s negative or controversial
Oh I get your ire now... I see... Do you always take everything so literal.. I do not own a farm! It is an expression that is used when you Bet big on a game.. Yes.. I lost.... Yes... I bet UK... But NO I am not a troll
 

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Ok teach me about the Civil War...which has zero to do with this topic. Shelby Foote taught me some.
The civil war is one of the more self explanatory situations in American history. Regardless clearly the biggest thing you need to learn is Kentucky never separated from the union
 

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Yeah, no one knew who that Super Bowl QB was. And that huge labor settlement he won from the NFL certainly means he was being offered fair contracts and there was NO C011USION!!!!

Pretty sure he was going to Baltimore with Ray Lewis's help.
Till..

NFL is about marketing PR to get as many butts in the seats and sell merch.
I'm sure many owners didn't want to touch a a player with a cancerous girlfriend.
 
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Oh I get your ire now... I see... Do you always take everything so literal.. I do not own a farm! It is an expression that is used when you Bet big on a game.. Yes.. I lost.... Yes... I bet UK... But NO I am not a troll
And also how was betting on KENTUCKY controversial? Please enlighten me...
 

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Pretty sure he was going to Baltimore with Ray Lewis's help.
Till..

NFL is about marketing PR to get as many butts in the seats and sell merch.
I'm sure many owners didn't want to touch a a player with a cancerous attitude.
“Cancerous” is committing to change as it pertains to America’s deep rooted racial issues? Oh boy lol
 

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Moronic equivalence. I am saying by your own standards the same argument could be made about the current flag (and there have been instances of people being offended). The very simple point is that unless a symbol has a direct link to an oppressive event this is an asinine rabbit hole we are worse off to bend to it.
Why? Because by answering it you are going to have to admit your own hyposcrisy and ignorance?

Again, how so? The American flag today did not represent the US during slave years. No one is arguing todays version of the US flag supports or promotes slavery.

It did have a direct correlation. It was the flag of a country who supported and promoted slavery. It represented a country that was built and maintained off work of slavery. I'm not sure how much more direct it could by, unless of course you just don't want to see or accept it.
 
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Of all the idiotic takes I’ve seen on this board - and I lost count after my first day - the notion that anyone who disagrees with one of you morons should leave the country is the most idiotic.

“Hey, you don’t like seeing black people getting pummeled by cops? Move somewhere with no black people!”

SMH.
 
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“Cancerous” is committing to change as it pertains to America’s deep rooted racial issues? Oh boy lol
I serve with men and women who fight for our country and have seen terrible terrible things and are still scared to speak their minds on anything. Colin’s attitude wasn’t cancerous that’s called bravery. Being willing to lose everything for the few. It’s our job as Americans to take those consciencous leaps
 

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Pretty sure he was going to Baltimore with Ray Lewis's help.
Till..

NFL is about marketing PR to get as many butts in the seats and sell merch.
I'm sure many owners didn't want to touch a a player with a cancerous girlfriend.

Maybe in the 70s through 90s. Revenue is now media deals, fantasy/gambling and merch. And Kaps jeresy sales were just fine.
 
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sports . off season. has it really impacted your life?




does it really bother you that much? like seriously... are you an admin in a facebook group??

Maybe people are just tired of everyone thinking it’s OK to bring politics into everything. Why don’t you just post it on the right board? Do you not have to play by the rules?
 

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Screw Kaperdick and his lemmings.

But he has every right to believe, demonstrate or speak out on those beliefs. As for KAT. I think he’s on the wrong side of this. But that doesn’t make him a bad person. I think he’s one of the few really good people in that league.
 

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57 responses...I

57 responses on original thread.. I did not type all of them...

Whatever, the response you made, was to......................yourself and not anyone else of the whatever the number. Geez dude, lighten up or at least take the stick out.
 

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“Cancerous” is committing to change as it pertains to America’s deep rooted racial issues? Oh boy lol
Racist was posting a tweet making a comparison of a NFL owner to being a slave master.
Think if you was applying for a job and your potential boss sees you or your GF/fiance/wife post a disparaging photo that would offend him/her. They would still hire you?
 
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Racist was posting a tweet making a comparison of a NFL to being a slave master.
Think if you was applying for a job and your potential boss sees you or your GF/fiance/wife post a disparaging photo that would offend him/her. They would still hire you?
This was after the fact make sure you state that lol.
 

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Poor white people so desperate to be outraged about something they don't understand, judging by how they think Kap kneels to disrespect America. Keep swallowing Trump's ******** while not realizing your patriotism is being abused by Trump for everyone to kiss his ***.
 
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It depends on who or what you are considering the protection to be from. If you are arguing that he has no protection from consequences from his employer then you are certainly correct. His employer can certainly fire him or punish him accordingly for that protest. However, he does still have protection from the government and the state attempting to punish him for the exercise of his free speech and/or exercising his right to assembly.
 

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sports . off season. has it really impacted your life?




does it really bother you that much? like seriously... are you an admin in a facebook group??

And, don’t you think it’s a little hypocritical to be on a Kaepernick thread asking how posting on the thread really impacted your life. Because I’m pretty sure Kap kneeling has affected your life zero.
 

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Also - why would anyone be surprised by this? The 9 months he spent here didn’t automatically turn him into a redneck.

He’s also never been a leader. Case in point, 2015 national semifinal and cowering like a ***** because Jimmy Butler is a meanie. He’s a follower. And not a very good one.
 

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No, it is not. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomspiggle/2018/09/28/free-speech-work-rights/#7aace24138c8

After reading through this, it seems to back up my assertion that although "most" forms of speech are protected from government interference, it doesn't mean they are protected from employer consequences.

The story you referenced says:
From a strictly technical standpoint, the First Amendment bars Congress from enacting a law that would restrict an individual’s right to say or express themselves how they choose. Over time, that’s been expanded to include many actions by state and federal government. But it’s not absolute. For one thing, it only protects you from government actions.
 

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Why? Because by answering it you are going to have to admit your own hyposcrisy and ignorance?

Again, how so? The American flag today did not represent the US during slave years. No one is arguing todays version of the US flag supports or promotes slavery.

It did have a direct correlation. It was the flag of a country who supported and promoted slavery. It represented a country that was built and maintained off work of slavery. I'm not sure how much more direct it could by, unless of course you just don't want to see or accept it.
We continue to go down the endless rathole of outrage due to idiots like you. It was not a flag of slavery, it was just the flag at that time. I tried to base it on your own criteria and you just aren't bright enough to get it. Today's flag was flown during Jim Crow so why is it not similarly problematic?
 
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It depends on who or what you are considering the protection to be from. If you are arguing that he has no protection from consequences from his employer then you are certainly correct. His employer can certainly fire him or punish him accordingly for that protest. However, he does still have protection from the government and the state attempting to punish him for the exercise of his free speech and/or exercising his right to assembly.
We were talking about protesting at work and assumed a private employer.
 

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Answer the question. Do you think you would be hired if you or close partner offends the future boss?
Or be hired by any other businesses that are affiliated with that owner?
As I said it was after the fact. The nfl black balled Kaepernick. It had nothing to do with why he wasn’t already in the NFL. Your analogy is faulty. Yes if I were being black balled by my employer you better believe I’d speak my mind and I’d expect to get another job. That’s **** is illegal lol
 

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He has to say that. In elite circles you have to conform to the majority. The majority of elite athletes today take up the cause to make themselves feel like they’re still “down with the cause” to regular people. Victimization is their formula for attention and also keeps them from being labeled as exploiters themselves which a lot of them are.

I’m not surprised.
NO! NO! NO! Real men and women stand for what is right. Who do you trust the most, followers or leaders?
 
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