If Greg really wanted a QB in that class, why didn't he land any? Do we know if any of those offers were real? And to actually play QB for those guys? He's definitely settled for some pretty weak QB recruits in the past just in the interest of getting one each year.
Kyle McCord enters portal
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I don't see it that way, he got 6 wins out of Wimsatt and a bowl game, that is a good year given the state of the program when he took it over. If he brings in a B1G level QB next year and we take the next step then nobody is going to think he has done anything but a fantastic job with the rebuild, most rational posters would take an 8-10 win season in year 5 and call that a great success.
Now, if he sticks with Wimsatt and we have a 3-6 win season next year, that is a different story. Given the level of the defense, I think a lot of rational posters would feel he has squandered an opportunity to take the program to the next level with that type of result. Next year's schedule outside the first two games is very difficult, and getting back to even 6 wins with Wimsatt as the QB is in no way guaranteed.
Very fair post.
The defense should be improved. The offense needs more improvement. A chance to notch 8 or more wins. It's one reason why it may be better for Greg to wait until next year to negotiate a raise or an extension- he has the chance to get more for doing better than the team did this year.
Ewers was behind Stroud, who looks to be the NFL offensive rookie of the year. Ewers is not one of the Heisman finalists.
We need to upgrade the WR/TE group for any QB to be successful. I do think Dremel/Strong/Washington are good WR's but non of them are game changers- We need a legit #1 guy or any QB playing next year will be mediocre at best.
They did not commit to him and they want someone else. Wouldn’t you leave too? Especially as a QB.
How often over the years have we watched musical chairs with GS and the QB position? With the fanbase wanting to know why doesn't he just stick to (name a QB) and just use one.
So now after all these years he settles in on a Starting QB #1 and a backup QB #2.
this fanbase is amazing. GS has given the answer to the QB position with the backing of the OC, yet we come up with scenarios of why? with no proof of anything other than why? Questioning real? doubting scholarship offers to QB's just so it looks good?
He really wants to lose right? he definitely does not want the best players on the field to win games right?
Our fanbase is so fickle.
Everyday here is the same crap. Let’s upgrade here and there lol. How do you think that happens in 2023? It’s not by the fanbase sitting on the sidelines. Schiano is fighting the good fight but without NIL money he is not bringing in the talent we need. Recruiting is not just about relationship building and fits anymore. It’s about the dollars and all of you non participants know it. Somehow everyday you still find yourselves here with the same BS and 5 paragraphs to create because your opinions is what’s gonna get it done.
Cali, you're going to have to type bigger and louder for us old folks to understand you. Gotta go. Soup time then a nap before bingo...
I'm not sure who he offered but if he had 8 real offers out there- I find it hard to believe none of them took it. And bottom line- GS missed an entire recruiting season for a QB.
Back during his 1.0 days- he did the same thing with the OL...hmmmmm, wonder if he ever missed an important group on defense?
Yes, his father Derek played in the late 80's to early 90's.
Kyle McCord's father Derek McCord got reps as back-up QB in the early-90s. He's remained a supporter of the program ever since.
Well he really needs to support us now. He could contribute 750k to Rutgers, we'll send 740k of it to Kyle and keep 10k for administrative fees etc. (I kid of course but would love to see Kyle in our scarlet)
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Haven’t read through this entire thread in the event this has already been linked
Haven’t read through this entire thread in the event this has already been linked
lazy reporter..notes Temple,Cuse,Pitt,Temple and RU as possible 5...i havent heard any indications he wants to play close to home...gotta
Of all the possible destinations, this one seems the most realistic for McCord. Not only are the Scarlet Knights likely looking for an upgrade at the quarterback position due to the inconsistency of starter Gavin Wimsatt, but McCord also has deep ties to the program and university.
Kyle’s dad, Derek, played quarterback for Rutgers from 1988-1992 and was coached by a young Greg Schiano at the time. These connections, coupled with the fact Kyle would play for his home state school, could be enough to sway the signal caller to Piscataway. If McCord chooses Rutgers, he would join a 6-6 program that is seemingly back on the rise under Schiano and make it even better with improved play from the quarterback position.
These are fair comments, but I'm expecting to see the kind of development from Wimsatt between his Soph and Jr years to be similar to that of Teel and Nova. Still, If GS can land a bigger fish, by all means, he should do it. Competition is king.
GW has already worked out. The objective was to go bowling. We’re bowling. Now we need consistency.
Yesterday I predicted either SEC or UNC. UNC develops QBs as passers and pro prospects. That is certainly what he’s looking for.
Gut feel- he will go to Maryland out of those choices.
EDIT- see he is in discussions with Nebraska. Don't see why he would go there, except for Rhule?
Nebraska is a solid team with a QB friendly system. Sure to see the playoffs and develop into an NFL - oh wait, never mind lol
Because the two QBs they had this year, including the interception prone transfer from Ga Tech did so well in that system. . . .
Perfect spot- lol glad we see the same thing- I think if I were a QB- Rutgers would actually be ahead of Nebraska
Nebraska has what Rutgers does not. A passionate fanbase willing to open up the piggy bank to get what Rhule wants. Nebraska is in negotiations with McCord because Nebraska has money. As this thread has shown we have fans passionate to give their opinion and that’s call we have.
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Nebraska is in open negotions now because Nebraska isn’t in a bowl game…. It’s a long off season subsequent to 12/28. I don’t know if we’ll pursue McCord but it’ll be shocking if we don’t try to bring in a veteran transfer (upper class player) to challenge Gavin. It should be understood that in order to start Gavin must improve - dead last in FBS isn’t good enough next year. That’s not kicking him to the curb but setting a higher bar for the future of RU football.
Our OL is better now. That should make playing QB for us more attractive.
Our OL is better now. That should make playing QB for us more attractive.
Nebraska is going to get McCloud? Does he have eligibility left? Seems like a better fit for Colorado with that hat. Punk 365 has no idea what he is talking about or who McCloud is.
Hopes and prayers don’t work as well as NIL donations.
What else is there to say? You want to evaluate each and every QB and state your valued opinion on why he will work out here or why he won’t work out here? Is that fun? Especially when you know that we have zero chance because of our fan base and its alligator arms. Is that fun? In order to get quality power 5 players we need NIL money. Everyone knows that but are we that bored like Mr Haiku that we are ok with just having discussions but not actually doing what is required to win and get some quality transfer portal guys here.
slowdown, stop putting your hand in other people's wallets. In addition to that, Greg went all in on NIL with Gav and it got us a crappy qb
we don't need a huge amount of NIL to get a good qb, RU has other things to offer that are vital to kids who want to play at the next level
Kentucky got their transfer Brock Vandergriff, Georgia Backup. Kentucky going on the third QB portal. I guess they are successful. Levis went to the NFL.
Louisville just got their transfer from Texas Tech, Tyler.
NC State looks like Coastal Carolina Grayson Mc Call. Excellent QB.
I guess Miami and Rutgers? If we win Pinstripe we get Kyle?
Miami's top targets are Washington State QB Cam Wardand Kansas State QB Will Howard. Portal news moves fast, but at the time I write this, neither have decided on a destination. Miami has reportedly engaged in talks with both, along with James Madison QB Jordan McCloud.
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This is 100% WRONG. Burrow was in a neck-and neck battle with Dwayne Haskins when he fractured his hand and was out in the Spring and summer. Haskins won the job - part of it because of the Burrow injury and Haskins went on to shatter a ton of B1G records that year.
Burrow has talked about the injury situation many times and the end result was transferring to LSU. Burrow is an OSU grad and still a huge fan and can be seen at many OSU home games in Buckeye attire and actually recruiting for them
I saw MS's post and stopped myself from posting when we would see 365 like or post shortly after and I stopped myself-
It is like one of those bets you know in your gut is going to work out but you don't make it. Or an idea that pops into your head but push it off and see someone else do the thing you thought of and make a billion $$$
In this case- that 12 oclock hour happens twice every day hmmmmmmm - no getting around how consistent that is
Teel and Nova were accurate, but made bad decisions resulting in picks. They weren't grossly inaccurate. So I wouldn't expect the same jump.
Truth is both Mike Teel and Gary Nova were given inadequate direction and rushed to win the job. Just an observation of what occurred during their earl years 1-2 and to some extent 3rd years. Surrounding cast members were also light years ahead in the throwing / pass pro game.
I counted 101 QB in the transfer portal. There are 34 starting QB positions in the SEC and BIG 10. We can’t get anyone to start on a Big Ten team?