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In his comments to the Omaha paper. He said he had trouble accepting his roll, last year... And now that Kalu is at safety he plans on staying. Dealing with highly publicized kids is a bit harder than the home spun kids! Any thoughts about how this attitude might play with the rest of the team????
 
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In his comments to the Omaha paper. He said he had trouble accepting his roll, last year... And now that Kalu is at safety he plans on staying. Dealing with highly publicized kids is a bit harder than the home spun kids! Any thoughts about how this attitude might play with the rest of the team????

Just speculation, don't spread false rumors.
 

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I guess I missed the part where he "sounds like he was leaving." I take his comments to mean that he got a wakeup call about how hard it is to earn regular playing time, and that he intends to answer it.

The fact that a college athlete would go through emotional ups and downs his freshman year doesn't seem alarming to me.
 

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I don't see anything in the article that even hints he thought about leaving. Rather, I see a description of a young kid who came to the realization that he wasn't as ready to be "the man" as he thought he was, who was not happy about that, and who came to understand what he needs to do this offseason to be ready to become "the man".
 

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Agree with Schuele and Tro... but even if you are right and he had one foot out the door, how is this different from guys like Suh or Crouch (a home spun kid, btw)? This stuff happens all the time, and these coaches understand the song and dance that goes with coaching.
 

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I think you are taking one half of a sentence and twisting it around.

I took it as "Hey I didn't have the role that I wanted last fall, and now that I do, I don't plan on giving it up."


I would assume if that is what he meant, it might have become a bigger story with the local media.
 

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In his comments to the Omaha paper. He said he had trouble accepting his roll, last year... And now that Kalu is at safety he plans on staying. Dealing with highly publicized kids is a bit harder than the home spun kids! Any thoughts about how this attitude might play with the rest of the team????

From everything I have heard he was not leaving the team. Many highly touted freshman find the transition to college a reality check, they no longer are the big man on campus.
I do know Diaco and Elliott love this guy.
 

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In the Spirit of Alternative Facts, he was leaving.
In reality, he learned how to make himself a better player and its paying off.


The OP's assertion that they moved Kalu to keep Lamar from leaving is absurd. Lamar is outplaying Kalu, and the coaches expect the Field Safety to cover the Slot or an occasional tight end. THis is a weakness for Antonio Reed or Kieron Williams. But Kalu is much better in coverage than those two, and he's always been a good tackler in space.

This is about making the defense better at the back end. Lamar Jackson has basically overtaken a 4th year senior with 30+ starts. And that Senior gives Nebraska a better option in base defense or the Nickel on the back end.

Kudos to the coaches for not just handing out jobs because of seniority.
 

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In the Spirit of Alternative Facts, he was leaving.
In reality, he learned how to make himself a better player and its paying off.


The OP's assertion that they moved Kalu to keep Lamar from leaving is absurd. Lamar is outplaying Kalu, and the coaches expect the Field Safety to cover the Slot or an occasional tight end. THis is a weakness for Antonio Reed or Kieron Williams. But Kalu is much better in coverage than those two, and he's always been a good tackler in space.

This is about making the defense better at the back end. Lamar Jackson has basically overtaken a 4th year senior with 30+ starts. And that Senior gives Nebraska a better option in base defense or the Nickel on the back end.

Kudos to the coaches for not just handing out jobs because of seniority.

Well stated and it's about getting the best 11 on the field at the same time.
 
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Not a troll! Wrote what he said to the paper! Speculated that from the sound of it he was frustrated with not playing a lot the first year...as many are! He said "So I plan on staying"

I'm surprised folks on a message board attacks the truth from a fan who has been one before they were born! I thought it would be an interesting comment to discuss... Obviously I was wrong!

Carry on telling me how what he said wasn't....
 

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Not a troll! Wrote what he said to the paper! Speculated that from the sound of it he was frustrated with not playing a lot the first year...as many are! He said "So I plan on staying"

I'm surprised folks on a message board attacks the truth from a fan who has been one before they were born! I thought it would be an interesting comment to discuss... Obviously I was wrong!

Carry on telling me how what he said wasn't....
Many have thwisted things here and are trolling. Imo, you were not attacked; you will see the difference - also imo, trolls do most the " attacking". Glad you are here, actually many don't want your statement misconstrued; nor do you. GBR
 
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Nobody attacked you, for Christ's sake. You specifically asked for our thoughts on how "this attitude" might play with the rest of the team, and I would summarize the unanimous reaction as, "What attitude? What are you even talking about?"

If you don't want to accept those responses, don't ask for them.
 

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So A. Williams and Kalu will battle it out at FS and Reed and Doman will battle it out at SS?
 

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He clearly said "So I plan on staying" ... What was he planning before that revelation? Seems he may of had thoughts of not staying.... Is my only point! We can use the Lamars and Bookie's of the world but it seems they may take more work once they get here...
 
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He clearly said "So I plan on staying" ... What was he planning before that revelation? Seems he may of had thoughts of not staying.... Is my only point! We can use the Lamars and Bookie's of the world but it seems they may take more work once they get here...
Do you have some actual evidence that Jackson has an "attitude" that might be an issue with his coaches or teammates, or that he's "more work" than less-heralded recruits? Or is this just some drama that you've created in your own mind, based on a routine spring practice news article that nobody else is reading that way?

You're certainly entitled to whatever opinion you choose to form about Jackson, but we are not obligated to agree with it.
 
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He clearly said "So I plan on staying" ... What was he planning before that revelation? Seems he may of had thoughts of not staying.... Is my only point! We can use the Lamars and Bookie's of the world but it seems they may take more work once they get here...

The problem with print journalism is that you don't know for sure if the quotes were from a prior question or a single answer to one question or if the interviewee is referring back to another question or point he was making.

There is some video interviews on other boards that may answer that concern.

From what I have seen, he was talking about "staying" at the top spot and in a mindset not physical location.

I would hope that if the interviewer thought Jackson was considering leaving the program, a follow up question would have been to ask if he was seriously considering leaving.

Take it for what it's worth.
 
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“I was still accepting my role, and I realized it’s bigger than just me,” Jackson said. “Now going into this season this spring, it’s been off to a great start and I feel like I’m getting better each day. Now I’m taking more reps and I feel like I belong, so I plan on staying.”

I can see where you could take the last part as him meaning not transferring, but I dont think he was ever seriously considering it. He was probably a little overwhelmed at first. And now that he is running with the 1s, he plans on staying (at the top of the depth chart)
 

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Not a troll! Wrote what he said to the paper! Speculated that from the sound of it he was frustrated with not playing a lot the first year...as many are! He said "So I plan on staying"

I'm surprised folks on a message board attacks the truth from a fan who has been one before they were born! I thought it would be an interesting comment to discuss... Obviously I was wrong!

Carry on telling me how what he said wasn't....
The board is full of 'fans' with glass hearts and if you even hint at anything they don't like, they will cry foul and find ways to twist things...

"Now I’m taking more reps and I feel like I belong, so I plan on staying.” - Lamar Jackson

No one else brought the staying/leaving thing up except Lamar himself.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see they moved Kalu to appease Lamar.
 

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The board is full of 'fans' with glass hearts and if you even hint at anything they don't like, they will cry foul and find ways to twist things...

"Now I’m taking more reps and I feel like I belong, so I plan on staying.” - Lamar Jackson

No one else brought the staying/leaving thing up except Lamar himself.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see they moved Kalu to appease Lamar.


You don't know the context. Because the quote referenced in the OWH, was presented as one long quote, when in fact it was parts of two or three different answers.
 

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It's just a matter of getting the best 11 football players on the field, which is so refreshing to see. It is fan nature to expect the young backup to be more athletic and more of a playmaker, but I feel it is also coaching nature to put the more experienced/ knowledgeable players out there. Here's to hoping this staff will be more lenient with our young talent and get them on the field this year
 

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The board is full of 'fans' with glass hearts and if you even hint at anything they don't like, they will cry foul and find ways to twist things...

"Now I’m taking more reps and I feel like I belong, so I plan on staying.” - Lamar Jackson

No one else brought the staying/leaving thing up except Lamar himself.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see they moved Kalu to appease Lamar.
Itea
 

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The kid wants to play. It may not have occurred to him that if he left, he'd need to sit a year. In any event the coaches like what they see in him and want him on the field. It seems Kalu's skills may be as good or even a better fit as a field safety. Elliot said that it could mean that they might have to not play as much nickel D if he is in that spot.
So the best four could end up being a talented youngster in Jackson, Jones, who is high on NFL 2018 boards, the most experienced player in Kalu and Aaron Williams.
If Kalu stays at safety, do you RS JoJo?
 

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The board is full of 'fans' with glass hearts and if you even hint at anything they don't like, they will cry foul and find ways to twist things...

"Now I’m taking more reps and I feel like I belong, so I plan on staying.” - Lamar Jackson

No one else brought the staying/leaving thing up except Lamar himself.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see they moved Kalu to appease Lamar.
He said that now that he is with the ones he doesn't plan on on loosing this job to anyone sounds more like he is committing himself to being the number one guy. Basically just said he won't be leaving the ones any time soon ,although at no time did he use the words leaving.
 

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The board is full of 'fans' with glass hearts and if you even hint at anything they don't like, they will cry foul and find ways to twist things...

"Now I’m taking more reps and I feel like I belong, so I plan on staying.” - Lamar Jackson

No one else brought the staying/leaving thing up except Lamar himself.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see they moved Kalu to appease Lamar.
Come on, Nikki, your last statement is totally irresponsible.

Isn't it possible that they moved Kalu, not to appease Lamar, but because Lamar beat him out? Why make the statement as fact that the reason Kalu was moved was to appease Lamar? Where did you read that in the article, or anywhere else this spring? You complain that people like me twist things, and yet that is exactly what you have done off of one simple quote from Lamar... "so I plan on staying."

That quote means the coaches moved Kalu to appease Lamar? Talk about twisting things...
 

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Come on, Nikki, your last statement is totally irresponsible.

Isn't it possible that they moved Kalu, not to appease Lamar, but because Lamar beat him out? Why make the statement as fact that the reason Kalu was moved was to appease Lamar? Where did you read that in the article, or anywhere else this spring? You complain that people like me twist things, and yet that is exactly what you have done off of one simple quote from Lamar... "so I plan on staying."

That quote means the coaches moved Kalu to appease Lamar? Talk about twisting things...
Well think about it.. Coach Riley is the guy that values experience, so moving a senior with 30+ career starts, then you get the quote by Lamar, it's pretty easy to see what happened. Now if Lamar is implying that he's staying 'at number one' or 'with the ones' that maybe is a different connotation than leaving the program, but it doesn't change the fact that Kalu got moved, and Lamar is now happy. What is soooo irresponsible about that?
 
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Come on, Nikki, your last statement is totally irresponsible.

Isn't it possible that they moved Kalu, not to appease Lamar, but because Lamar beat him out? Why make the statement as fact that the reason Kalu was moved was to appease Lamar? Where did you read that in the article, or anywhere else this spring? You complain that people like me twist things, and yet that is exactly what you have done off of one simple quote from Lamar... "so I plan on staying."

That quote means the coaches moved Kalu to appease Lamar? Talk about twisting things...
In case you have not noticed, there is an agenda involved with the poster you are interacting with. Don't expect anything but double standards and drivel.
 

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Well think about it.. Coach Riley is the guy that values experience, so moving a senior with 30+ career starts, then you get the quote by Lamar, it's pretty easy to see what happened. Now if Lamar is implying that he's staying 'at number one' or 'with the ones' that maybe is a different connotation than leaving the program, but it doesn't change the fact that Kalu got moved, and Lamar is now happy. What is soooo irresponsible about that?


Moving a senior to safety to replace a junior then leaving a sophomore at corner, doesn't exactly give you anymore experience now does it? Kalu and his 30 starts is the same whether he is at corner or safety.
 

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Moving a senior to safety to replace a junior then leaving a sophomore at corner, doesn't exactly give you anymore experience now does it? Kalu and his 30 starts is the same whether he is at corner or safety.
I've never played organized football but it seems like those are different positions. Those 30+ starts are with a different technique and different responsibilities.
 

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Moving a senior to safety to replace a junior then leaving a sophomore at corner, doesn't exactly give you anymore experience now does it? Kalu and his 30 starts is the same whether he is at corner or safety.
I don't really care one way or the other.. I don't think that highly of Kalu, and I certainly didn't recruit Lamar and give him a jersey with the number 1 on it either. All I'm doing is pointing out the obvious and standing up for the OP, who many ridiculed for no reason.
 
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I don't really care one way or the other.. I don't think that highly of Kalu, and I certainly didn't recruit Lamar and give him a jersey with the number 1 on it either. All I'm doing is pointing out the obvious and standing up for the OP, who many ridiculed for no reason.
Oh. That makes perfect sense. Any kid that wears number 1 gets what he wants.
 

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I've never played organized football but it seems like those are different positions. Those 30+ starts are with a different technique and different responsibilities.

Thanks for making my point even further. It reads as though you believe the 30 starts at corner are irrelevant and moving Kalu to safety actually makes the team even less experienced than I stated.
 

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I don't really care one way or the other.. I don't think that highly of Kalu, and I certainly didn't recruit Lamar and give him a jersey with the number 1 on it either. All I'm doing is pointing out the obvious and standing up for the OP, who many ridiculed for no reason.


Ah a message board guardian angel. How nice
 

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I don't really care one way or the other.. I don't think that highly of Kalu, and I certainly didn't recruit Lamar and give him a jersey with the number 1 on it either. All I'm doing is pointing out the obvious and standing up for the OP, who many ridiculed for no reason.
Pointing out the obvious is that Kalu changed positions. It is not obvious as to why... And you still didn't answer my question... Is it possible that the change was because Lamar beat Kalu out?

Stop twisting things and just admit that it's just as likely (maybe even more likely) that the reason for the position switch isn't to appease Lamar but because Lamar is better. Is that so hard to see?
 

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Say your best 3 Dbacks are at corner. One of them is a possible fit at one of the safety positions. His skill set allows for more flexibility in the base D if the position change is a success. Would you not audition the kid at the other position?
Or we can assume other reasons for the position change. Whatever.
 

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I don't really care one way or the other.. I don't think that highly of Kalu, and I certainly didn't recruit Lamar and give him a jersey with the number 1 on it either. All I'm doing is pointing out the obvious and standing up for the OP, who many ridiculed for no reason.

Guess Riley is just following dear old Tom's lead when he gave LP #1.