Lansdorf WTF
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They will and he will likely tell us his reasoning. Second guessing is easy. Calling plays isn't..
Answer this...did you think Langsdorf went conservative on 1st and 2nd down given the opportunity that a touchdown and extra point wins the game in overtime? In my opinion he went into a shell on those plays.
I remember the reverse to Westy. I'm talking about the RB's on outside zone and running boot off of that action.
We have a QB but he was getting pressure all night long. Pretty damned tough to call a good game or play one when you're O line isn't giving the QB much time. I'm sure there would be some things Lansdorf AND TA wish they could do over.
If I had a car that needed a turn up I wouldn't enter it into a race but drive it where I knew I could make it..
Probably but we don't know if those were the origninal play calls or audibles. At least I don't. Maybe TA had the option to pull it and run it. Actually he has that option on any play. Eric Crouch did it all the time. TA had the ball in his hands and he gave it up. HUGE pressure situation and we folded.
I don't believe for one second he had the option to run it...those were straight handoffs to the running back based on the run blocking.
Eric Crouch was running a totally different offensive system than what TA runs...Can't compare the two in this case.
No argument on that. Of course TA had several short passes batted down and we had a short field. I would have liked to see a play action pass but heck if it didn't work then everybody would be screamin RUN THE BALL.
Had nothing to do with the offensive scheme. Has everything to do with a feel for the game. Crouch said he OFTEN he would come to the LOS, see the play call sucked and didn't have enough time to audible so he would just improvise. Remember all those QB draws everybody screamed about. That often wasn't the play call. He would just improvise without audibling.
I do not believe Tommy has that much freedom in this offensive scheme. He also wasn't in offensive formations on first and second down that would lend him to just go running around.
Correct, it's a neutralizer but not when the opposing linebackers are as disciplined and good as Wisconsin. A good screen game is most successful when you're having success in other aspects. And we weren't.
It sure did, wouldn't of minded to see something else called (deep ball) off that same set.
My personal opinion, Langs is in a very tough situation & sitting 7-1 instead of 5-3/6-2, has more to do with him instead of the other way of thinking.
- He has the ball in his hands and had the option to audible at the LOS which might have been why we ran it up the middle. We don't know. I've seen Brett Favre take off on a naked boot with his entire offense blocking a run play to other side of the field. Running up the gut late in the game worked for us in earlier games this year and their DE's were killing us with outside pressure.
Dinglefritz...inside runs weren't working in THIS game in tight formations under center. Spread the defense out and give the running back more options to find a lane inside or outside the tackles. You are an avid and knowledgeable Husker fan to know this would have given us a better chance to gain yards.
I see your point, it will be interesting to see what DL does when he gets his statute QB in the years to come that can't run as well. Every play should have a counter to it but it seems he doesn't set anything up off another play to run counter. I know DL is still learning how to be a OC but you have to stick with what's working or at least come back to it sometime during the game.
It is scary to think how many sacks Nebraska will have with a less mobile quarterback and with our current offensive line.
No doubt. Hopefully our O line is healthier and maybe a little more physically talented next year.
You're overvaluing a "dual threat" that really isn't a "dual threat". A "statue QB" doesn't need to run well, just enough at the right time. Along with many other aspects, such as; reading defenses pre-snap, looking off targets, progressions, stepping up in the pocket, knowing when to throw the ball away, knowing when to dump, etc, etc.
A Zac Taylor type has this team 8-0, in the top 5.
Huskers fans are enamored with average QB play, just because they can run. It's a big reason why we've struggled as a program for so long.
I told you that I was screaming for an option. I also told you that we don't know what the play call in the huddle was for sure. We don't know if there was an audible or the option for an audible or what. DL has to BEFORE the defense sets, try to figure out what their tendencies are and what they are likely to do in that situation. SO you call the play you THINK will work against what you THINK they will show you. The QB HAS to get you in to the right play or if he can't he needs to call time out. Obviously either TA audibled to those plays OR thought the original play call was right for what he saw from the defense at the LOS....of course that's assuming that TA read the defense and didn't just go up there and say hike. Blindly saying we're gonna run X play because the other sh## didn't work is kind of silly.
And there you have it....on the other hand the defense's job is to confuse the QB and even NFL QBs make mistakes and TA didn't have a pocket to step up in to tonight.
Not really I understand your point. I'm just saying know what you have and put them in the best situation to succeed. There's a lot TA doesn't do well and I wouldn't even call TA a great runner. He left a lot of yards out there as well. What I'm saying is if DL is reluctant to run with a running QB how to you think he'll be with one less capable?
I actually agree to an extent with your premise it's just that I don't have enough information to judge the calls. The TV angle didn't show the defensive set and I sure as hell don't know what their defensive play call was. I also don't know for sure if the play run was called in the huddle or at the LOS. Hell the original play call could have been a middle screen or a play action pass and the middle runs were run audibles because of what TA saw from the defense. I dunno. The good news is that our OC will explain it and do it in a manner appropriate for family viewing. I like DL and I think given what he has had to work with this year he has done a pretty darned good job. He didn't cost us this game.
I agree with many of your thoughts. Langsdorf did not cost us the game but in my opinion he sure didn't help in overtime.
By the way...Damon Benning said the playcalling in the overtime was bad on Big Red Overreaction...segment 6. Winking
It appears that way but appearances are often wrong. I'll reserve judgement until I know more. We had our chances. TA had a guy open on the left side for 6 when he threw the long ball but he didn't have time to nor did he attempt to come off of the fade route. They're college kids doing the best they can and taking a physical and mental beating. Love the effort and man we could do a BUNCH worse for an OC. Tom spoiled us.
And.....Damon is coaching where? I like Damon Benning but sometimes he suffers from premature gesticulation.
It's scary to think what a qb that can scan the defense, know where to go with the ball, be on time, and accurate can do with this same offensive line.
You don't need a running QB to be successful. That's the part the "dual QB" people don't undertand. Tommy had 13 rushes for 39 yards, and probably left somewhere around 15-25 yards on the field with his decisions. He came up limping too, do you want Ryker Fyfe coming in?!
Green, Carnes, Turner, Martinez, Armstrong, Stanton, Darlington & Bush are the "dual threats" we've had on scholarship with/from the previous staff. Of the 8, which ones were/are an actual dual threat? Answer: Zero.
Why is Lamar Jackson good? Why is Deshawn Watson good? Because they're actually a dual threat QB. Which means, both can beat you either their arm and legs. Jaimes Winston was tagged as a DT QB, and he ran a 5.0 40-yard dash. There's nothing "dual" about him; he could make the throws, read the defenses (even while squinting), knew how to step up now the pocket and everything else I mentioned in the previous post.
Nebraska would have rolled Wisconsin tonight with him behind center.
I've just heard Damon too many times days later have to walk back something he said because "he watched the film again" and decided maybe he was wrong.
That's funny, I'll give you that.
The '05 line was just as bad as the current line is. Difference is, there's better playmakers on the outside this year compared to then.
Zac Taylor took way too many horrible hits that nowadays would have him on the sidelines without his helmet....the guy was a warrior. His talent was getting through his reads quickly and getting rid of the ball. He would be very good in Riley's offense.
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