Legalizing pot...

mashburned

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Absolutely NO!

I was involved in local government for ten years. I never advised my Police Commissioner to EVER do **** like this. In fact in Kentucky the local police get one dollar per citation, the rest goes to the State. The purpose of that is to stop cities from using the police as a source of income.


Surprise, surprise!

GTFO man
 
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I think they are. Got stopped in FL on I-75 in Alachua County this past April. Cop said, "we must make so many stops per day". He let us go with a warning for following too close. He clocked me at 73 MPH in a 70 zone. I was tailgating some old boy ahead of me. Please refrain from notifying the cycling thread. TIA!

Based on my experience this will absolutely not happen in Kentucky. Of course I got my only ticket in Florida but it was in a subdivision.
 
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Surprise, surprise!

GTFO man

Well dumbass, I can prove what I just said.

Have you been a Mayor in a town in Kentucky that could do otherwise? If you have not then STFU. I will even go farther and state that no Sheriff in the State of Kentucky can make money on tickets. That is the damned state law. So why don't you prove me wrong.

Before you make a stupid statement like you just did, why don't you do a little research before putting you little foot in your big mouth.
 

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Based on my experience this will absolutely not happen in Kentucky. Of course I got my only ticket in Florida but it was in a subdivision.
My nephew is a cop in Maynardville, TN, which is located in the next county north of Knoxville. When we related the story about our stop, he laughed, and said, "yeah, we got quotas too. That shows the chief that we're working." Funny, but I've purposely hauled-*** through the same town a few years ago hoping he might stop me. Man, you can't even find those old boys when you purposely screw up.
 

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IMO just another revenue stream for governments...basically a tax on the poor...the police will quickly follow with breathalyzer tests for pot DUI and ****...

I don't care one way or the other personally...stopped smoking in college once I could buy bourbon

Wooderson would not approve of this take. Change your avatar imo.
 
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Do you really believe cops aren't encouraged to get X number of encounters, Y number of citations, and/or Z number of arrests?

They may not have quota or whatever but I think they get itchy and try to find crime when it isn't there, or focus on something until it looks like they are able to get what they want.
 
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I think they are. Got stopped in FL on I-75 in Alachua County this past April. Cop said, "we must make so many stops per day". He let us go with a warning for following too close. He clocked me at 73 MPH in a 70 zone. I was tailgating some old boy ahead of me. Please refrain from notifying the cycling thread. TIA!
[roll] Ive gotten a ticket in Alachua County, as well
 
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Absolutely NO!

I was involved in local government for ten years. I never advised my Police Commissioner to EVER do **** like this. In fact in Kentucky the local police get one dollar per citation, the rest goes to the State. The purpose of that is to stop cities from using the police as a source of income.
So because your town didn't do it while you were there....it doesn't happen anywhere?
 

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There is a lady at my church who would never touch a drop of alcohol, but she takes a zanax 3 or 4 days a week to "take the edge off". Can't we all just accept having a few beers or smoking a doob every now and again just makes life a little more enjoyable?
I've got a preacher in the family who is a hardline teetotaler, to the point that a proposed change in his local liquor ordinance prompted him to hold a rally in front of the courthouse. When Colorado legalized mary-jew-wanna, as he calls it, they called down judgement against the U.S. and we are now doomed as a nation. The funny thing is that this guy maintains a medicine cabinet that looks like something out of Wolf of Wall Street. He has every painkiller I've ever heard of, his doctor prescribes them like crazy and they never throw pills out, and he self medicates on a pretty frequent basis. On one visit he had bashed a finger getting firewood and took enough he kept blacking out and slumping over in his chair. He also says he does this when he needs some sleep.

I know that Kentucky will never legalize in my lifetime because of how ingrained some belifs are, so now I'm just hoping somewhere close does so I have reasonable access to get some sleep caps. People say, "I slept like a baby". I want to be able to say, "I slept like when I was in college and smoked weed".
 

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I'm a supporter of legalization.

However, due to the fact that brain development doesn't stop until around your mid-20's I think the legal age should be 25, even for alcohol.

Dude i've been drinking regularly since 16 (mostly with my Dad), my brain developed just fine. I think everything in moderation is just fine. People in Europe can drink (legally) when they are 14
 

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Dude i've been drinking regularly since 16 (mostly with my Dad), my brain developed just fine. I think everything in moderation is just fine. People in Europe can drink (legally) when they are 14

It still doesn't make it right if "so-and-so can still do something" so it should be okay, or using a personal anecdote to prove something.

Obviously your brain didn't develop correctly and you wouldn't be making retarded *** arguments about how SCIENCE has proven that drugs/alcohol impede neural development.
 

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I was the Mayor. We got $1.00 per traffic ticket. We go zero for arresting a felon. We got zero for arresting on a misdemeanor.

Now prove me wrong.
Bert, were you the mayor of Smith's Grove? If true, then allow me to say I drive through it a couple times per year when visiting relatives in Grayson Co. Nice town.
 
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If pot were to be legalized in KY think of how booming the mountains of Eastern Kentucky could be again! Huge weed crops...marijuana theme park with rides and tours..warterpark....hippie music festivals...stoner museums....Cheech and Chong Grand openings...hotels...resteraunts...campgrounds with drum circles. It would be like a dopehead Vegas. Weed smokers would come from all over the world to marvel in the NEW smokey mountains.
 

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If pot is legalized in Ky, we would still have 38 "uncool" counties. My county might go as far as allowing a contact buzz, but direct inhalation would be illegal.

They might get "cool" when they see stoners buying up all of the church bake sale items, something drinkers dont particularly do. Dope smokers gotta have them fried pies and brownies!
 
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Bert, were you the mayor of Smith's Grove? If true, then allow me to say I drive through it a couple times per year when visiting relatives in Grayson Co. Nice town.
Thanks AustinTXCat.

It is close to my home town. I retired there. I was a City Commissioner 6 years and Mayor 4 years. I worked my *** of for the town (first full time Mayor-I got to work at 7am and left at 4pm or later. I never turned in an expense account. That is the Jefferson view of serving.

Next time through call me, I am in the directory. We can lie about Kentucky basketball.[winking]
 
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It still doesn't make it right if "so-and-so can still do something" so it should be okay, or using a personal anecdote to prove something.

Obviously your brain didn't develop correctly and you wouldn't be making retarded *** arguments about how SCIENCE has proven that drugs/alcohol impede neural development.

Now was that not nice?

My dad always told me if you could not say something nice then STFU. Of course that is just my personal anecdote and is not SCIENCE based.
[pfftt]
 

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So Ohio is being blitzed with a campaign to make it legal, HOWEVER, the entity pushing the legalization are also proposing limiting who can produce it so they can have a monopoly. They are buying up land to till the crop.It is a sham and should not be passed in it's current form....This occurred on the casino front where they limit to a few to run all gambling in the state.

This is un-American and contrary to a free market system. if you are pro-legalization and pro-gambling, beware of who benefits. You should not limit who can produce and/or operate these entities. For the reecord, I am for both but, in the case of gambling, I am against just racetracks having a shot of running gaming. Open it to everyone, otherwise the rich just get richer.
 
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They might get "cool" when they see stoners buying up all of the church bake sale items, something drinkers dont particularly do. Dope smokers gotta have them fried pies and brownies!

I've asked before. Are you in law enforcement?
 

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Thanks AustinTXCat.

It is close to my home town. I retired there. I was a City Commissioner 6 years and Mayor 4 years. I worked my *** of for the town (first full time Mayor-I got to work at 7am and left at 4pm or later. I never turned in an expense account. That is the Jefferson view of serving.

Next time through call me, I am in the directory. We can lie about Kentucky basketball.[winking]
Awesome! My possible return should come Thanksgiving week this year. I may stop for a quick visit. Thanks!
 
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Open it to everyone, otherwise the rich just get richer.
I think the "Kentucky Proud" program would welcome a new product line.Free range eggs, steroid free meat, organic produce, and now, weed!:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

One of the big pushes for legal hemp production has been to support small to medium farms so maybe folks would spot and stop a raw deal.
 

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So Ohio is being blitzed with a campaign to make it legal, HOWEVER, the entity pushing the legalization are also proposing limiting who can produce it so they can have a monopoly. They are buying up land to till the crop.It is a sham and should not be passed in it's current form....This occurred on the casino front where they limit to a few to run all gambling in the state.

This is un-American and contrary to a free market system. if you are pro-legalization and pro-gambling, beware of who benefits. You should not limit who can produce and/or operate these entities. For the reecord, I am for both but, in the case of gambling, I am against just racetracks having a shot of running gaming. Open it to everyone, otherwise the rich just get richer.

In the beginning not everyone can afford the mass production and the cost involved with distributing so that is a necessary evil. Not to mention people who want it legal want it so bad they don't care who profits, on the flip the govt would love for it to just be a few businesses and control taxes.
 

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I think the "Kentucky Proud" program would welcome a new product line.Free range eggs, steroid free meat, organic produce, and now, weed!:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

One of the big pushes for legal hemp production has been to support small to medium farms so maybe folks would spot and stop a raw deal.
Couple years ago, I met a gal on Nolen Lake, a Hatfield, who told me yuppies up in Louisville go apeshit over her families' free-range eggs. They pay mucho dollars. Cool little cottage industry, although lots of work.
 

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I'm fully in favor. Name a drug other than heroin, PCP or meth and I've done it. Marijuana is the only one I endorse, and that includes booze. The gateway BS is propaganda. I started on smokeless tobacco. Then cigs. Then booze. Then pot. Then the other stuff.

I'm in favor of being able to legally grow up to ___ plants a year. I'm also in favor of retail sales of cannabis, edibles and cannabis oil. I support age restrictions for purchase, likely 18 and regulating smoking and driving the same way as drinking and driving.

The confederacy and Utah will lag behind the rest of the U.S. Kentucky could fix its pension system in a few months, but the damn Puritans will eff it up for the rest of us like always.
 
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Get back to basics. "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness".

I have a right to live.
I have a right to live free.
I have a right to live high.

As long as my getting high doesn't infringe upon your rights, I'm good to go.
 

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Get back to basics. "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness".

I have a right to live.
I have a right to live free.
I have a right to live high.

As long as my getting high doesn't infringe upon your rights, I'm good to go.

Totally agree, except....sometimes it's really hard to define the line where getting high does have an impact on others. some of the stoners I know, frankly, are having an adverse impact on others. Their kids, mainly. I know the comeback is always that alcohol or cigs are adverse too, but, they're already legal.
 

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If only I had the mighty mind of LEK to point out the fallacy of your statement. I have no children because I have always been aware of the weight of their burden.

I only speak for myself, unless I realize someone needs me to speak for them. Anyway, smoking a joint in front of a kid is no different than smoking a cigarette. The feeling to you is different, the image to them is the same.
 

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I'm fully in favor. Name a drug other than heroin, PCP or meth and I've done it. Marijuana is the only one I endorse, and that includes booze. The gateway BS is propaganda. I started on smokeless tobacco. Then cigs. Then booze. Then pot. Then the other stuff.

I'm in favor of being able to legally grow up to ___ plants a year. I'm also in favor of retail sales of cannabis, edibles and cannabis oil. I support age restrictions for purchase, likely 18 and regulating smoking and driving the same way as drinking and driving.

The confederacy and Utah will lag behind the rest of the U.S. Kentucky could fix its pension system in a few months, but the damn Puritans will eff it up for the rest of us like always.


"The gateway BS is propaganda" yet after you used "pot", you used "the other stuff". Isnt that a contradiction?

How can the "Puritans" eff it up when they wont be the ones using it?
 

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In the beginning not everyone can afford the mass production and the cost involved with distributing so that is a necessary evil. Not to mention people who want it legal want it so bad they don't care who profits, on the flip the govt would love for it to just be a few businesses and control taxes.

The ones that can afford mass production will be that much farther ahead, but that should not stop the birth of the micro-brewer and allow competition to flourish rather than allow a certain monopoly.
 

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If only I had the mighty mind of LEK to point out the fallacy of your statement. I have no children because I have always been aware of the weight of their burden.

I only speak for myself, unless I realize someone needs me to speak for them. Anyway, smoking a joint in front of a kid is no different than smoking a cigarette. The feeling to you is different, the image to them is the same.


You might better stick to the Science topics, common sense isnt your bag.
 
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"The gateway BS is propaganda" yet after you used "pot", you used "the other stuff". Isnt that a contradiction?

How can the "Puritans" eff it up when they wont be the ones using it?

Hell the Puritans want CONTROL. Pure and simple. If I hate pot then you sure as hell should not use it. If I don't think you should look at naked women, then you should not look at naked women.

There is some justification for some control for the sake of society; however, some of the drugs do not harm society. We have some religions that harm society but we don't make them illegal. I actually believe that there are gateway drugs but those drugs are in a persons mind as much as in the real substance that gives them the desire to participate in one of societies no no's.

I tried Pot and did not like it; however, it was a gateway to cigarettes. I was hooked on them for 20 years. A desire to date Sue got me started on Makers Mark. I still love that stuff, so Sue was a gateway drug. I decided that beer would be better for me than whisky, so I guess whisky was a gateway drug to beer except I am not that fond of beer. Women are a gateway drug for men. I have been hooked on women since I was 10. I guess God was the gateway drug for women or he would not have given me some of my body parts and testosterone.

Of course the Puritans don't like someone enjoying sex either.