Legalizing pot...

[TheySoSensitive]

You are correct I most certainly would. Anyone that "has" to use some kind of substance on a daily basis whether it be alcohol or drugs has a major problem in my opinion. I have a friend whose son doesn't work on a steady basis because a lot of the jobs he applies for require you to be drug tested and he will tell you that he is not giving up his weed for any job. You going to tell me that is not an addiction? And he has a wife and children . That is pitiful

He's addicted to being lazy.

You see...people like to blame their issues on whatever they can. Just because he's a lazy POS that happens to really enjoy weed doesn't mean that the weed is making him that way.

I *have* to take my vitamin mix everyday or I will feel sluggish. Do I have a major problem?

 

[sluggercatfan]

I guess it requires a tad bit of mental fortitude to not start banging heroine after youve smoked your first doob. I have smoked plenty of weed. I have tried acid and shrooms and thats about the extent of my drug use. I have been around heroine, crack, meth, pills and I have never had the slightest desire to try any of them. Should have raised a stronger boy.

Funny I raised four of them and he is the only one. You must not have children. I was a denier for a long time because he has been scared to death of needles his entire life , but he told me the first time he did it was over. It took me a long time to realize that I cannot save him and I have finally let it go and am prepared for whatever happens in his life. We have been thru a lot and it is something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

 

[TheySoSensitive]

Colorado seems to be working out great(making a funny here), but I think I read where you can still buy it cheaper on the market than in the store. I don't understand those who are more obsessed with legalizing drugs than in the country going to hell in a hand basket and drugs are a major part of the problem...And please don't tell me I don't have a clue. When you have a son who is a heroin addict and you have to deal with it then you can come back and talk to me. And yes, he started his journey by smoking pot.

One of my best friends who played football in the SEC got hooked on pain meds after a serious injury. We(myself and his family) got him off of them and guess what? He's never smoked weed a day in his life.

THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER. To lump 'drugs' into one category is totally ridiculous.

Hey let's sprinkle some meth/H on this blunt said nobody ever...

BTW good luck with your son. Even going through the pill stuff with one of my closest friends was totally draining. The one point he made to me that really stuck is that if the person doesn't want to quit there's not a single thing any family member/rehab place/friend can do to get them to stop. It must be extremely tough to deal with as a parent.

 

[sluggercatfan]

Its funny that the myth of the gateway drug from the 80s is still perpetrated. Doesnt matter that scientific study after scientific study, logical reasoning etc, its just a myth that wont die.

It is a myth in your own mind. With my situation I have had the chance to talk to many people who are experts in this field and they would disagree with you whole heartedly, but believe what you want.

 

[sluggercatfan]

He's addicted to being lazy.

You see...people like to blame their issues on whatever they can. Just because he's a lazy POS that happens to really enjoy weed doesn't mean that the weed is making him that way.

I *have* to take my vitamin mix everyday or I will feel sluggish. Do I have a major problem?

What the hell has this got to do with taking drug test?

 

[jwheat]

There are plenty of experts who agree with him too. See what I did there?

 

[-LEK-]

It is a myth in your own mind. With my situation I have had the chance to talk to many people who are experts in this field and they would disagree with you whole heartedly, but believe what you want.

No, it been refuted for years. Its back by science. Its backed by studies. Its backed by logic.

 

[TheySoSensitive]

What the hell has this got to do with taking drug test?

My point is that it's not his 'addiction' to Marijuana causing him not to work, it's him being lazy.

If it wasn't failing a drug test it would be something else, then something else, then something else.

Lazy people are going to be lazy whether they smoke pot or not, and that is what is keeping him from getting a job. Really not that difficult to get someone else's piss and use it if you want the job.

 

[sluggercatfan]

Its only perpetuated from people who like sluggercatfan who probably has never smoked weed before in his life. His son fell in love with the high. You can't go chasing that dragon. Don't blame it on the simple plant that grows from our precious earth. Blame it on the upbringing of the mentally weak individual.

You know what ?. You can KISS MY ***...You have NO idea what kind of parent I have been...As a matter of fact I have three boys that would kick your *** if you said that to their face about me!!!

 

[-LEK-]

You know what ?. You can KISS MY ***...You have NO idea what kind of parent I have been...As a matter of fact I have three boys that would kick your *** if you said that to their face about me!!!

Its the same thing as blaming a drug. Sometimes people take wrong turns no matter what.

 

[sluggercatfan]

No, it been refuted for years. Its back by science. Its backed by studies. Its backed by logic.

Go talk to people who work in clinics and deal with on a daily basis and you will get a different story.

 

[jwheat]

No way!!!

 

[TheySoSensitive]

You know what ?. You can KISS MY ***...You have NO idea what kind of parent I have been...As a matter of fact I have three boys that would kick your *** if you said that to their face about me!!!

Agreed...total bush league.

Many people from all walks of life end up as addicts to all different kinds of substances. Most of the people that were on pills(which turns into a Heroine addiction) when I was in school were kids who came from great, loving families.

The guys who were from rough backgrounds with little to no family support system were the ones selling it.

 

[jwheat]

Maybe they should kick their junkie brothers *** instead of a random guy on the internet

 

[LineSkiCat14]

As a once every day smoker who now maybe smokes twice a year.. just legalize it already. I really think any able minded person can see that the pro's severely outweigh the cons. The only downside is that the ghettos might have to resort to selling another substance, I guess.

I rarely even touch the stuff at this point, and it has nothing to do with it being illegal. Drinking is just more fun. But some people like their pot better. Let them have it.

 

[jwheat]

I love to smoke pot. When it came down to me getting a job my big *** didn't smoke for over a month. I passed the drug test. Mental toughness.

 

[-LEK-]

Go talk to people who work in clinics and deal with on a daily basis and you will get a different story.

Seriously, take 10 minutes and research reports. Google Scholar is a great starting point. Im glad Jimmy, the ex-crack head is who you get your info from. Now try some actual scientific research.

 

[mashburned]

No ...He would still fail a drug test as they check for more than MJ...Look I'm not a prude or uneducated about this stuff. I'm what you guys consider a part of the old hippie generation and I've seen enough stuff go down, especially in Nam, that it scared the hell out of me. Now dealing with a son who is addicted I'm even more against it. I do think that sentences for mj sometimes can be a little harsh, but when dealing with those that sell the heavier stuff I think they should throw the book at them.

Nope. Research drug tests. Pills are water soluble. THC is fat soluble.

Man I agree with you in principle. It's F'd up. Really is. There are so many layers to addiction and drugs.

I'm just saying the system makes it very easy for pill users compared to MJ users, and that's *** backwards.

Oh, they're throwing the book at em. If you sell someone some painkillers and they OD, you can get charged with murder. How's that for throwing the book?

 

[sluggercatfan]

Its the same thing as blaming a drug. Sometimes people take wrong turns no matter what.

I agree with you and that is what my son did. Got hooked up with the wrong people. Like I said , it is something I wouldn't wish on anybody, but let me tell you it is a epidemic right now and is NO respecter of persons or families rich or poor.

 

[sluggercatfan]

No way!!!

What?...Now way you will go talk to them because you may get to find out something your "science" doesn't tell you?

 

[TheySoSensitive]

I love to smoke pot. When it came down to me getting a job my big *** didn't smoke for over a month. I passed the drug test. Mental toughness.

Maybe you should use some of that mental toughness to put down the Monte Cristo sandwich and lose some weight instead trying to talk ish on a message board to a Father whose son has a problem with addiction.

 

[jwheat]

I put it on some asics though

 

[sluggercatfan]

Maybe they should kick their junkie brothers *** instead of a random guy on the internet

Trust me they stay on his *** constantly, but I don't going to sit here and let someone call me something that he doesn't have a f'ing clue over.

 

[jwheat]

Send him to the Alabama rehabilitation clinic. I heard theyre good down there.

 

[sluggercatfan]

As a once every day smoker who now maybe smokes twice a year.. just legalize it already. I really think any able minded person can see that the pro's severely outweigh the cons. The only downside is that the ghettos might have to resort to selling another substance, I guess.

I rarely even touch the stuff at this point, and it has nothing to do with it being illegal. Drinking is just more fun. But some people like their pot better. Let them have it.

This may seem funny , but it actually isn't. My son told me that one of his biggest suppliers was a 75 year old woman. Go figure

 

[sluggercatfan]

Send him to the Alabama rehabilitation clinic. I heard theyre good down there.

He is 30+ yrs old and I don't control his life. See this is where people like you have no clue. Until he reaches rock bottom and does this on his on he is lost.

 

[TheySoSensitive]

Trust me they stay on his *** constantly, but I don't going to sit here and let someone call me something that he doesn't have a f'ing clue over.

Correct, I doubt he'd like it if someone started ripping on his baby.

Just totally uncalled for and ignorant for the dipshit to act like it's your fault.

He also seems to be missing the fact that people aren't going to get better unless they want to. Hell you could tie him up and take him to the clinic and have him go through the program but unless he wants to get better there's no point.

 

[sluggercatfan]

I put it on some asics though

What? Are you serious. This is a freaking message board. Even though you "seem" like a real Ahole I how you never have to go thru this.

 

[mashburned]

Cashin them checks and sellin them pills. Very popular profession.

And some people can't figure out why bums don't want to bust their *** in fast food.

 

[sluggercatfan]

Correct, I doubt he'd like it if someone started ripping on his baby.

Just totally uncalled for and ignorant for the dipshit to act like it's your fault.

He also seems to be missing the fact that people aren't going to get better unless they want to. Hell you could tie him up and take him to the clinic and have him go through the program but unless he wants to get better there's no point.

I had him locked up because he stole from me. It is not a fun thing to go thru although some like to make light of it.

 

[TheySoSensitive]

I had him locked up because he stole from me. It is not a fun thing to go thru although some like to make light of it.

Fortunately we caught him when he was pawning his own stuff to pay for it. Dude had a key to my house and everything so I hate to think what could've happened. Amazing how well people can hide things...myself, his roommate, and his GF all thought for months he was just hyper from his pre workout.

Hopefully your son sees how much better he is without it. It took a breakup, me literally breaking his nose in a fight(he tried to attack me because I took his keys so he couldn't go buy), him destroying the room at the house he lived at, his parents threatening to cut him off, and an intervention with all of us to get him right.

We make light of a lot of things over here but some people are just terrible posters in general and have zero self awareness. The man is eating himself into a Handicapped sticker and wants to point fingers and laugh because another poster's family member has a serious addiction.

 

[Levibooty]

Tobacco is THE gateway drug.

 

[TheySoSensitive]

Tobacco is THE gateway drug.

Oxygen

Think about it...anybody who has *ever* been addicted to anything started out on oxygen at an early age.

 

[jwheat]

We should raise our kids not to breathe but produce oxygen.

 

[sluggercatfan]

Tobacco is THE gateway drug.

HATE tobacco also:smiley::smiley::sunglasses:

 

[sluggercatfan]

We should raise our kids not to breathe but produce oxygen.

Hasn't the epa already determined that oxygen is bad for the environment?:smiley::smiley:

 

[argubs2]

Slugger, I really do feel for you and can't imagine dealing with that with one of my children in the future.

You do have to understand and have even admitted that it's on him. I can understand wanting, needing even, something to defer the blame to...but it's illogical to do that. It's about decision making and you can't make his decisions for him, obviously.

The gateway argument is a carefully devised scare tactic and it is 100% illogical.

 

[sluggercatfan]

Slugger, I really do feel for you and can't imagine dealing with that with one of my children in the future.

You do have to understand and have even admitted that it's on him. I can understand wanting, needing even, something to defer the blame to...but it's illogical to do that. It's about decision making and you can't make his decisions for him, obviously.

The gateway argument is a carefully devised scare tactic and it is 100% illogical.

I have totally come to realize all you say is true, except I don't buy the gateway stuff. Thanks for you concern . Like I said it is a hell I would not wish on any parent.

 

[argubs2]

Meaning, you believe smoking marijuana can cause someone to shoot heroin?

 

[jwheat]

Sensitive got sensitive.