The problem (if there's one) is when we beat their brakes off, they'll blame the whole thing on Ellis Johnson and claim it wasn't a fair fight.
LOCKED-Got to wondering....Where is the upside for us playing USM?
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The problem (if there's one) is when we beat their brakes off, they'll blame the whole thing on Ellis Johnson and claim it wasn't a fair fight.
what's nice is that we can have a discussion thread about , beat our chests, and not worry about any of their 11 fans coming in to join us because they have nothing to say.. they can only bend over and take it. and I like that
It will shut their asses up about us being scared to play them when we beat them by 40.
How in the hell was scheduling USM going to help Byrne get a "better" job? Or any of the other things either for that matter? That's just stupid. Not to mention that if Byrne was looking to leave, why didn't he take the Arizona job the first time they offered it instead of waiting for them to come back to him a couple of months later? No, it couldn't have had anything to do with the next governor being a big USM fan.
Why would he get his degree here, actively tell people he's upset he couldn't "finish the job," and send his kid to school here?
Trolls gonna troll.
You are too influenced by the 70s and 80s.
Two reasons.
The main one being Troy. Yes, that Troy. All the kids that usm used to get from LA and NW FL now go to places like Troy because they're DI and close to home. Ark St is a prime example. In the 80s under Lacewell they won a DI-AA title. Now they're DI. Throw in Troy doing the same thing and.......poof.....there goes usm's recruiting base.
It's hard for them to steal those kids when the sun belt is on equal footing as c-usa.
Second. Economics.
Southern will never, ever, ever, ever, ink a deal that MSU and um just inked with this sec tv network deal. Ever.
(LA, that's lower alabama)
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Not just Troy. UAB, ULL, and Central Florida have all cut into USM's old recruiting grounds. And with recruiting being 24/7/365 these days, a LOT more coverage of high school sports, and all the summer 7-on-7 camps and combines out there, it's a lot harder for a player like a Brett Favre or Sammy Winder to slip through the cracks and land at USM than it was back then.
Please. What is the "upside" to playing Memphis, Tulane, UAB, La. Tech, Middle Tennessee or any other Conference USA school? We have to play 4 non-conference teams, and if we're going to play Conference USA teams why not play one right there in the same state? Granted, when we play an out of state school that can help raise the visibility of MSU in the eyes of recruits and future students, but, really, we're an SEC school who is on television every freaking week, so how much more visibility do we need? Why not play a school that creates a little rivalry and keeps more money in the state?
You know, we recruit against several Conference USA schools for Mississippi talent, so the argument that we are helping USM's recruiting doesn't really carry much weight.
People who don't want to play USM are worried about the "downside of losing." Which is just another way of saying you are scared of losing. Get over it. I would rather lose to USM than Maine, or Tulane, or Troy.
Yeah, I went to school in the 80s when we hardly ever beat USM. When Rockey Felker started his career 6-1, the "1" was USM. I look forward to renewing the rivalry.
You know, we recruit against several Conference USA schools for Mississippi talent, so the argument that we are helping USM's recruiting doesn't really carry much weight.
People who don't want to play USM are worried about the "downside of losing." Which is just another way of saying you are scared of losing. Get over it. I would rather lose to USM than Maine, or Tulane, or Troy.
Yeah, I went to school in the 80s when we hardly ever beat USM. When Rockey Felker started his career 6-1, the "1" was USM. I look forward to renewing the rivalry.
Exactly.
These detractors keep asking for an "upside" to playing USM. Well, what's the "upside" to playing ANY OOC team we play, then?
These detractors keep asking for an "upside" to playing USM. Well, what's the "upside" to playing ANY OOC team we play, then?
I'm sick of USM fans talking smack
They are like a gnat that won't go away. You swatted at it so many times but it keeps finding a way to bite you.
USM fans have no idea how bad they have it. Most of them have never even been to Ole Miss or State's campus.
They are like a gnat that won't go away. You swatted at it so many times but it keeps finding a way to bite you.
USM fans have no idea how bad they have it. Most of them have never even been to Ole Miss or State's campus.
Favre is a guy who still would have slipped through the cracks. Definition of fluke. Threw the ball 4 times a game in high school, played safety, they somehow got down to 3rd/4th string QB and he shined. That will continue to happen, but I agree with the overall sentiment. Mullen has been the worst thing to ever happen to USM.
After 24 years it'll be nice to play our real rival aGain.**
Seriously folks, quit getting your vaginas all inflamed over USM. They're a terrible team in an even worse conference. Remember what we did to their conference champion in the Liberty Bowl last year? This game will be much the same. It was a rivalry 24 years ago but I doubt any of the players for either team were even alive the last time this game was played. It's only a rivalry to some of us old farts who were alive to see and remember the old games. That **** is dead except in our old memories. We'll stomp their ***.
Seriously folks, quit getting your vaginas all inflamed over USM. They're a terrible team in an even worse conference. Remember what we did to their conference champion in the Liberty Bowl last year? This game will be much the same. It was a rivalry 24 years ago but I doubt any of the players for either team were even alive the last time this game was played. It's only a rivalry to some of us old farts who were alive to see and remember the old games. That **** is dead except in our old memories. We'll stomp their ***.
Wow...So many absurd comments...Where do I begin? Ha! First off, we have more than 10 fans, although I will admit that our fan base disappoints me. Someone said we make our children go to USM because we went there... That's crazy! I don't have kids, but still...Oh, and we don't blame everything on Ellis Johnson - only the 2012 season. And, as far as us being an annoying knat that won't go away, I honestly hear more smack talk from MSU fans about us Golden Eagles than the other way around.
A friend of mine who is a Bulldog fan sent me this link, and I decided to join and defend my alma mater (USM, obviously).
BTW, USM leads the football rivalry with MSU 14-12-1. Yes, I am aware how badly we've tanked in the last couple of years. But, before 2012, we had 18 consecutive winning seasons & 10 straight bowls.
Another fun fact: We beat Bama during Bear Bryant's last year to coach.
Oh, and to whoever asked if we beat LSU in 1994...Yes, we did.
And no, not all USM gals are easy...or, at least I'm not.
I BLEED BLACK & GOLD!!!! SMTTT!
A friend of mine who is a Bulldog fan sent me this link, and I decided to join and defend my alma mater (USM, obviously).
BTW, USM leads the football rivalry with MSU 14-12-1. Yes, I am aware how badly we've tanked in the last couple of years. But, before 2012, we had 18 consecutive winning seasons & 10 straight bowls.
Another fun fact: We beat Bama during Bear Bryant's last year to coach.
Oh, and to whoever asked if we beat LSU in 1994...Yes, we did.
And no, not all USM gals are easy...or, at least I'm not.
I BLEED BLACK & GOLD!!!! SMTTT!
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I BLEED BLACK & GOLD!!!! SMTTT!
You should probably see a doctor about that.
Now get back in that kitchen and make them sammiches!
Wow...So many absurd comments...Where do I begin? Ha! First off, we have more than 10 fans, although I will admit that our fan base disappoints me. Someone said we make our children go to USM because we went there... That's crazy! I don't have kids, but still...Oh, and we don't blame everything on Ellis Johnson - only the 2012 season. And, as far as us being an annoying knat that won't go away, I honestly hear more smack talk from MSU fans about us Golden Eagles than the other way around.
A friend of mine who is a Bulldog fan sent me this link, and I decided to join and defend my alma mater (USM, obviously).
BTW, USM leads the football rivalry with MSU 14-12-1. Yes, I am aware how badly we've tanked in the last couple of years. But, before 2012, we had 18 consecutive winning seasons & 10 straight bowls.
Another fun fact: We beat Bama during Bear Bryant's last year to coach.
Oh, and to whoever asked if we beat LSU in 1994...Yes, we did.
And no, not all USM gals are easy...or, at least I'm not.
I BLEED BLACK & GOLD!!!! SMTTT!
while you're on a roll, why not pretend to be a west point grad, go troll a Notre Dame blog and talk smack about the overall record of Army vs the Fighting Irish?
I really hope you don't take this too seriously or it will get ugly. But just for the record, MSU leads the series 14-12-1.
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| Date | Opponent (record) | Result | Score | Site | ||
| 9/22/1990 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (8-4) | W | 13 | 10 | |
| 9/9/1989 | @ | Southern Mississippi (5-6) | W | 26 | 23 | |
| 10/15/1988 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (10-2) | L | 21 | 38 | @ Jackson, MS |
| 10/17/1987 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (6-5) | L | 14 | 18 | @ Jackson, MS |
| 9/20/1986 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (6-5) | L | 24 | 28 | @ Jackson, MS |
| 9/21/1985 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (7-4) | W | 23 | 20 | @ Jackson, MS |
| 10/6/1984 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (4-7) | W | 27 | 18 | @ Jackson, MS |
| 10/8/1983 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (7-4) | L | 6 | 31 | @ Jackson, MS |
| 10/9/1982 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (7-4) | L | 14 | 20 | @ Jackson, MS |
| 11/7/1981 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (9-2-1) | L | 6 | 7 | @ Jackson, MS |
| 10/11/1980 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (9-3) | L | 14 | 42 | |
| 10/27/1979 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (6-4-1) | L | 7 | 21 | |
| 10/7/1978 | @ | Southern Mississippi (7-4) | L | 17 | 22 | |
| 10/22/1977 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (6-6) | L | 7 | 14 | |
| 10/23/1976 | @ | Southern Mississippi (2-9) | W | 14 | 6 | |
| 10/4/1975 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (7-4) | W | 7 | 3 | |
| 10/27/1973 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (6-4-1) | T | 10 | 10 | |
| 10/21/1972 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (3-7-1) | W | 26 | 7 | |
| 10/24/1970 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (5-6) | W | 51 | 15 | |
| 10/11/1969 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (5-5) | W | 34 | 20 | |
| 10/12/1968 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (4-6) | L | 14 | 47 | |
| 10/14/1967 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (6-3) | L | 14 | 21 | |
| 10/8/1966 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (6-4) | W | 10 | 9 | |
| 10/9/1965 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (7-2) | W | 27 | 9 | |
| 10/17/1964 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (6-3) | W | 48 | 7 | |
| 11/22/1947 | vs. | Southern Mississippi (non-IA) | W | 14 | 7 | |
| 11/15/1935 | @ | Southern Mississippi (non-IA) | W | 27 | 0 |
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I'm not sure what you have against Greg. His actions demonstrated why he is by far the best A.D. Mississippi State has had in decades. I personally am glad he did everything you said with the exception of signing the contract to play Mississippi Southern in Football (because we gain nothing by playing them). I seriously doubt our Basketball Program would be in the condition it is in today had he remained in Starkville. His actions were in the best interest of Mississippi State, not a faction of people that controlled the athletic department, as had been the case since the post-war era.
Relative to your comment about not playing the teachers college anymore, it didn't have anything to do with wins and losses (if you remember we won the last two times) and we lead the series with on the field wins. It was about the money. When we played in Jackson, we had to split the gate regardless of who sold what in tickets. Mississippi State and TSUN were outselling the teachers college by as much as 3 to 1 but yet not getting to keep the revenue. The TSUN contract expired after the 1984 season and our contract expired after 1990. The contract Greg Byrne entered into only requires us to pay them 200K to come to Starkville and they guarantee us the same 200K when we go to Hardy Street in 2015. Therefore, it is not a bad financial arrangement, if you are strictly looking at the money.
With that said, I completely agree with your final statement regarding their present condition. We have NO excuse to not beat them convincingly!
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I guess you're going to tell me ESPN isn't reliable? They're one of the sites that actually supports the stat that USM leads the rivalry. I count the 2 forfeits from '75 & '76 as wins. MSU had to forfeit games in 1975 & 1976, due to playing ineligible players. Yes, I know MSU won those games, but the forfeits would give USM the wins.
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I've never pretended to be anything but a USM grad. My username is "USMFAN." LOL As I said before, I have a friend who is a MSU fan, and sends me links to this all the time, showing me all the smack talk about USM. So, I decided to join and defend my college. Yes, I'm aware that we're in a sucky conference, but our history shows that we've had a winning tradition. The last two years have been hard for us die hards...
Yes, I'm aware that we're in a sucky conference, but our history shows that we've had a winning tradition. The last two years have been hard for us die hards...I haven't pretended to be anything but a USM grad. And, I wasn't smack talking about the overall record. I was defending the smack talk against USM with facts.
Thank you. For the most part, I don't really have a dog in this hunt so whether we play USM or not doesn't make much of a difference to me. However, the way that a large part of the MSU fanbase has reacted since we inked this deal has been ridiculous. It's getting to the point where I swear that people have heard the baseless "We shouldn't being playing Southern because it does nothing for us" line so much that they're just starting to repeat it so that they can join the fun.
If you're scared of these fools, then fine... stay home and watch on tv if your heart can handle it. I'll tell you this, though... If you really want to know what this game is going to do for us, come out to DWS on opening day and soak in the atmosphere. Then imagine if we were playing Mississippi Valley instead. Starkville is going to be rocking
If you're scared of these fools, then fine... stay home and watch on tv if your heart can handle it. I'll tell you this, though... If you really want to know what this game is going to do for us, come out to DWS on opening day and soak in the atmosphere. Then imagine if we were playing Mississippi Valley instead. Starkville is going to be rocking
Come on
Pat. One can clearly see that Byrne is positioning himself for a Presedential Run in 2016.
Pat. One can clearly see that Byrne is positioning himself for a Presedential Run in 2016.
Might as well be an Ole Miss fan -- laying claim to games you lost on the field...
There's a reason "forfeits" no longer happen...
I hope we hear about this ALOT over the coming months... I had begun to feel sorry for that fanbase -- and need something to (re)arouse my interest...
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