Marshall on Dec. 17th

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I would like to see the Mountaineers put a major whipping on Marshall this time around. This game has been played close for too many years now. I want Huggins to show the fans once and for all that the Mountaineers are West Virginia basketball!
 

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I also believe this is the first year in many that our team actually comes out with something to play for. Every year, MU is playing for their "title" game and we are just trying to get through it injury-free.

Not this year. Huggs is ending this game, and he's been hand-delivered enough bulletin board material for the players to actually breed some motivation to play that poor excuse for a Division 1 basketball program...
 

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Game is a complete joke this year.

Marshall will hurt our SOS and RPI....so in a way....they win...because this game will do more harm than good.
 

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I ain't reading anything that says hate among the responses and ............I expect Huggins to put a royal whipping on dem Greenies!
 

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Guys, you realize every year someone says how we need to "blow them out" and all that, but you know as well as I do that it will end up being a close game with maybe us pulling it out and opening it up late. For some reason, blame Charleston, the rims, arena, whatever......the game is not conducive to a WVU blowout.
 

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Even when Marshall is at a historical low ebb the game is a far more attractive matchup than the majority of the OOC games we play.

WVU has no reason be insecure about playing the lesser school in the state just because inevitably we will occasionally lose. We play lesser schools from all over the country every year and no one makes silly protestations that we shouldn't play them because they have low RPIs. Making that claim about only one team and making it incessantly year after year is something only the most insecure and weak-minded of our fans do.

It's blatantly transparent when a few WVU fans whine about playing Marshall. Marshall is the school that should be insecure.
 

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Even when Marshall is at a historical low ebb the game is a far more attractive matchup than the majority of the OOC games we play.

WVU has no reason be insecure about playing the lesser school in the state just because inevitably we will occasionally lose. We play lesser schools from all over the country every year and no one makes silly protestations that we shouldn't play them because they have low RPIs. Making that claim about only one team and making it incessantly year after year is something only the most insecure and weak-minded of our fans do.

It's blatantly transparent when a few WVU fans whine about playing Marshall. Marshall is the school that should be insecure.


" the game is a far more attractive matchup than the majority of the OOC games we play."

Go on. Tell us what you know about our other OOC matchups then....

There is so, so much about how Huggs schedules the OOC that you don't know, nor are aware at just how "removed" Marshall is towards deserving to be on our OOC....

The RPI argument isn't the only thing against Marshall........ it's but one of 4.
 

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2 directional Kentucky schools, one of whom Marshall beat handily.

A program from Louisiana no one cares about, including, evidently its own AD that scheduled it to play 3 road games in 4 days.

Mighty Kennesaw State, Stetson and Bethune-Cookman (the tournaments schedule the patsy games precisely because the coaches of the stronger teams want those match-ups so saying it is part of one is meaningless drivel)

James Madison and Richmond might be better at the moment but, obviously, neither game is as appealing to real fans as is Marshall.

When the day comes when we never play teams as poor as Marshall, then we could say with a straight face SOS rather than silly insecurity is why we don't want to play Marshall. Until then, it's a stupid display of insecurity to suggest it.
 

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Right, as I thought...... you know nothing about them.

First, the "two directional KY schools":

NKU was scheduled for 4 reasons, and done so 2 years ago:

- Multiple GAs at WVU (including one Darris Nichols) were hired by NKU for their first coaching gigs
- Huggs was good friends with now-former HC of NKU
- Huggs' nephew was on NKU prior to the coaching change
- most importantly, the game last season at NKU was a gift to Devin Williams' family, who cannot afford to travel to see him play.

EKU:

- Scheduled in Fall of 2014, when Jeff Neubauer was still HC. Jeff, a former WVU assistant, was going to have a "homecoming" of sorts with the game this season. He, instead, took the opportunity at Fordham following the 14-15 season
- EKU, prior to this year and the coaching change, averaged 21+ wins a season over the last 5 seasons and were/are a RPI top 150 opponent

- Stetson and Bethune Cookman were mandated by the Las Vegas Tournament, not scheduled by WVU. And as far as that ******** of "these are the teams coaches want to play"........ well, all you had to do was listen to the Coach's Show last night to know that's not accurate

- Kennesaw St was added due to Huggs' friendship with their HC, Al Skinner. This is also why Alabama, LSU, ASU, Louisville, and Indiana played them this season. Coaches help coaches build programs with OOC matchups.

- JMU, Richmond, SDSU - NCAA Tournament teams. IMO, so is UL Monroe. All range from top 150 RPI to top 50. And the comment about "real fans"? Real WVU fans show up no matter who the opponent is.


But what is it that Marshall is missing out on among all these teams?

- non-competitive RPI
- non-home contest
- HC is not a preferred member of the HC community by Huggs
- School has shown an unwillingness to consider WVU personnel for positions - See Ron Everhart in 2014.

D'Antoni's dumbass mouth is just the icing on the cake.
 
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Right, as I thought...... you know nothing about them.

First, the "two directional KY schools":

NKU was scheduled for 4 reasons, and done so 2 years ago:

- Multiple GAs at WVU (including one Darris Nichols) were hired by NKU for their first coaching gigs
- Huggs was good friends with now-former HC of NKU
- Huggs' nephew was on NKU prior to the coaching change
- most importantly, the game last season at NKU was a gift to Devin Williams' family, who cannot afford to travel to see him play.

EKU:

- Scheduled in Fall of 2014, when Jeff Neubauer was still HC. Jeff, a former WVU assistant, was going to have a "homecoming" of sorts with the game this season. He, instead, took the opportunity at Fordham following the 14-15 season
- EKU, prior to this year and the coaching change, averaged 21+ wins a season over the last 5 seasons and were/are a RPI top 150 opponent

- Stetson and Bethune Cookman were mandated by the Las Vegas Tournament, not scheduled by WVU. And as far as that ******** of "these are the teams coaches want to play"........ well, all you had to do was listen to the Coach's Show last night to know that's not accurate

- Kennesaw St was added due to Huggs' friendship with their HC, Al Skinner. This is also why Alabama, LSU, ASU, Louisville, and Indiana played them this season. Coaches help coaches build programs with OOC matchups.

- JMU, Richmond, SDSU - NCAA Tournament teams. IMO, so is UL Monroe. All range from top 150 RPI to top 50. And the comment about "real fans"? Real WVU fans show up no matter who the opponent is.


But what is it that Marshall is missing out on among all these teams?

- non-competitive RPI
- non-home contest
- HC is not a preferred member of the HC community by Huggs
- School has shown an unwillingness to consider WVU personnel for positions - See Ron Everhart in 2014.

D'Antoni's dumbass mouth is just the icing on the cake.


But you aren't making an argument against his argument. You made an argument on why we played NKU and EKY, and those reasons are valid. But the reason to play Marshall is just as valid, if not more. They are the only other D-I school in the state. That's pretty important if you ask me.
 

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"But the reason to play Marshall is just as valid, if not more. They are the only other D-I school in the state. That's pretty important if you ask me."

But........... it isn't important. Compound that with all the factors that Marshall doesn't bring to the table that I addressed in the previous post............. and add in the revenue share of the Classic with a program that fails to bring in even 20% of the overall attendance......... and the game is flat out garbage for WVU


Honestly, I'm sick of the "It's good for the State" excuse, because not one single person who ever says that ever backs it up with a valid reason.


If Marshall wants to stay on the schedule, they can travel to Morgantown, just like in football.
 

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If you are not from WV, I can see why you are against this game. But fact is, it is good for our state. It's a fun game for our fans who live in the southern part of the state. Our state needs Marshall to be successful and if playing them once a year in basketball helps their program more than ours, it's a small price to pay for the overall good of WV.

Not everyone can get into WVU. We need another D1 school for those students who can't make it at Morgantown. Stop being so rough on them.
 

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There is no point in explaining the obvious to Keaton. I believe his every post demonstrates that what is obvious to everyone else (well except for punisher and wbvgwv) is beyond his ability to understand.



That three, count them 3, people as stupid as those jokers are allowed to dominate this board is sad.
 

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Oh look.... Another "it is good for the state" post


Without a reason why the game is good for the state


Or is it just that the Southern part of the state is in such a 'charity case' mentality that entitlement for the game has set in?

I'm from Charleston btw so save the whole "if you were from" ****....k?

Charleston folks had their "deserving" game once this year in JMU and showed 2,000 light of WVU's average attendance at the Civic Center
 
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Low IQ Drifter showing his true colors (Kelly green). Keaton just took him to class on this subject and all he can do is grumble and kick dirt.

Bob Huggins doesn't want this game, but apparently Low IQ Drifter knows better? Some folks just can't get out of their own way.

Keaton is right on this one.

The Hanker's won't stop until they burn WVU to the ground.
 

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But you aren't making an argument against his argument. You made an argument on why we played NKU and EKY, and those reasons are valid. But the reason to play Marshall is just as valid, if not more. They are the only other D-I school in the state. That's pretty important if you ask me.

LOL - Our coach made a decision to schedule those games, and we all agree he's a pretty darn good coach, right?

This game is good for Marshall, and Marshall only.

Obviously, Huggins doesn't find it all that important despite the cries of t-shirt fans and Marshall sympathizers.
 

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If you are not from WV, I can see why you are against this game. But fact is, it is good for our state. It's a fun game for our fans who live in the southern part of the state. Our state needs Marshall to be successful and if playing them once a year in basketball helps their program more than ours, it's a small price to pay for the overall good of WV.

Not everyone can get into WVU. We need another D1 school for those students who can't make it at Morgantown. Stop being so rough on them.

Why does our state NEED Marshall to be good at basketball?

How is playing them once going to help that?
 

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Low IQ Drifter showing his true colors (Kelly green). Keaton just took him to class on this subject and all he can do is grumble and kick dirt.

Bob Huggins doesn't want this game, but apparently Low IQ Drifter knows better? Some folks just can't get out of their own way.

Keaton is right on this one.

The Hanker's won't stop until they burn WVU to the ground.

Oh he has followed me over to BGN now too just to catch a whiff of my jock when I walk by
 

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It's all black and white for too many if you.

Some people have ties to both universities. Taje me for instance. My masters is from WVU. I have 2 family members with Marshall degrees.

Real life is too complicated for you guys. Better stick to the forums. :)
 

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It's all black and white for too many if you.

Some people have ties to both universities. Taje me for instance. My masters is from WVU. I have 2 family members with Marshall degrees.

Real life is too complicated for you guys. Better stick to the forums. :)

Yawn - we all have ties to other schools. My undergrad was from WVU, my advanced education was from a different school and I'd love it if they'd play each other. They dont, oh well...
 

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Paper is preaching to a guy (me) with a WVU and Pitt degree each about not understanding ties to multiple schools

Has 7 DUIs
 

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Throw em a bone once in a while, like every 8 years, in Morgantown. I'd rather not see them every year. Why is an annual game with Marshall a good thing for WVU? The Civic Center looks like a big high school gymnasium anyway.
 

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Last year little Danny said he wanted two games, per season. WTF? We can't deal with these folks, get rid of them. It's a whole university filled with wvpapers.
 

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5 and you will have your setbacks too, junior. i am an alcoholic, 8 years sober.

and i am damn near positive i can whip your ***. good news is i like you - sometimes

I remember when you were damn near positive Keaton enjoyed the anonymity of the internet more than you did, and how right were you then?
 

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I would like to see the Mountaineers put a major whipping on Marshall this time around. This game has been played close for too many years now. I want Huggins to show the fans once and for all that the Mountaineers are West Virginia basketball!
We should either let our backups play the whole game or let our women's team play their men. It is always Marshall's Super Bowl, while we never take it seriously. This would solve that, while still giving us a win almost every year...
 

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Our state needs a solid D1 program for those who cannot go to wvu. There are a lot of kids down here who commute to Huntington due to family necessities. Good sporting programs increase enrollment, give a better overall experience for their campus, encourages participation in things like the band, dance teams, student government, other non-rev sports (especially sports for females) that need football and basketball to fund them and keep them sustainable.

I'm a wvu guy first, but more West Virginia kids are playing D1 ball at MU at their level of athletic conferences as opposed to wvu's level. One game against MU is better than Louisiana Monroe. The players at wvu have commented this week that it's a fun atmosphere. It's a fun game to watch in charleston, both sets of fans, makes for good talks at work and stimulates interest in both sporting programs. I've had more people talk to me about wvu basketball this week than any other week since we played Kentucky last year. It's good publicity. It sells papers. Hotels, restaurants , businesses in charleston get a nice boost.

Some of these reasons are stronger than others but all of them have some merit. Wvu's basketball program (and Big 12 gauntlet schedule) is strong enough to handle one MU game in charleston to help the local economy and our little brother's athletic program.

Merry Christmas.

Why does our state NEED Marshall to be good at basketball?

How is playing them once going to help that?