Michigan State serves Tucker with notice of intent to terminate

mdk02

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It’s quite possible he’ll get nothing unless someone proves that money changed hands (or she received some other measurable benefit) to deliberately set him up. I highly doubt that happens but nothing would surprise me.

He'll get at least part of the the amount of legal fees it would takd to defend the case
 
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Tuck will get MSU _ _cked?

Another high profile recommendation gone bad?




Everyone recommends their friends and colleagues so that’s not new lol. That’s why you take any comments from those sources with some grains of salt whether it’s UM or Saban or whomever. You still have to do due diligence and see if those person has the capability.

MSU will be better off financially and if they get someone like Elko or Klieman or Leipold they could be in better shape than with Tucker. Read Elko would be on NW’s list too. Will B10 money be enough to lure some out of their current confines, we’ll see.
 

mdk02

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Of course his lawyer would say that.
Everyone recommends their friends and colleagues so that’s not new lol. That’s why you take any comments from those sources with some grains of salt whether it’s UM or Saban or whomever. You still have to do due diligence and see if those person has the capability.

MSU will be better off financially and if they get someone like Elko or Klieman or Leipold they could be in better shape than with Tucker. Read Elko would be on NW’s list too. Will B10 money be enough to lure some out of their current confines, we’ll see.

Only in his 2nd year as HC my guess is Leipold has a pretty expensive buy-out.
 

Knight Shift

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don't think Barnes is involved, just a lawyer putting his opinion out there
even though he's not part of what's going on.
Tucker has Jennifer Belveal representing him
Mel- keep both hands on the phone when talking to your lawyer, and admit to nothing else. Interesting background and bio highlights for his lawyer;

Recognized, Chambers USA: America's Leading Lawyers for Business in the practice area of Litigation: White-Collar Crime & Government Investigations (2021-2022)
Recognized, Who’s Who Legal – Business Crime Defense (2020—2022 )
Nominated, Inaugural list of Crain’s Detroit Women in the Law (2017)

  • University of Michigan Law School (J.D., magna *** laude, 1995)
    • Contributing editor, University of Michigan Law Review
    • Order of the Coif
  • Michigan State University, James Madison College (B.A., with honors, 1992)
    • Honors College
 
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yesrutgers01

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They didn't set him up- and how f-ing dumb of him to do anything like this, even if consensual with the person brought in to investigate this **** after the 2nd biggest sexual scandal in sports history.

Or, they could just replace him with a coach who victim shamed a girl to drop charges on his team immediately after a sex scandal as big as this.
 
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RUScrew85

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Michigan State is making a tough call here. They know given recent history of their athletic department, their is very little room for a drawn out process. Interestingly, one has to wonder if there was a similar history at Rutgers whehter the national news would focus on shutting down all athletics here (but give Michigan State and others a pass).

I'm sure nj.com will call for shutting down the Rutgers Football program because of this event in MSU.
 

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MADHAT1

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The buyout is 6M if they want him, while not cheap it’s doable.

Klieman’s buyout is also 6M.
Leipold and Klieman are good choices and worth the buyout, but if they’re not interested

Two more

Matt Campbell, Iowa State , this might be the year he decides to get out of there if he can. But his 7-6 in 2021 and 4-8 record in 2022 might have made him fall from a top prospect to a pretty good gamble

Shawn Clark, Appalachian State, he’s running a respected program and only a matter of time before one of the big boys goes after him
 

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He’s wasting his time. It doesn’t matter. They highlighted 2 clauses in the contract. And I doubt there’s a statute of limitations stipulated in the contract. The public leaking of the information made it such that Michigan State couldn’t sit on the contract violation any more. Optically they had to take action and initiate fire for cause. Just because they didn’t act in March doesn’t mean they aren’t allowed to act on it later. He violated the contract.
 
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He’s wasting his time. It doesn’t matter. They highlighted 2 clauses in the contract. And I doubt there’s a statute of limitations stipulated in the contract. The public leaking of the information made it such that Michigan State couldn’t sit on the contract violation any more. Optically they had to take action and initiate fire for cause. Just because they didn’t act in March doesn’t mean they aren’t allowed to act on it later. He violated the contract.
I expect there could be a settlement but nowhere in the neighborhood of what was left on his contract. I think 77M was left.
 
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Leipold and Klieman are good choices and worth the buyout, but if they’re not interested

Two more

Matt Campbell, Iowa State , this might be the year he decides to get out of there if he can. But his 7-6 in 2021 and 4-8 record in 2022 might have made him fall from a top prospect to a pretty good gamble

Shawn Clark, Appalachian State, he’s running a respected program and only a matter of time before one of the big boys goes after him
I’ve seen Matt Campbell mentioned and for sure he’d take it given his fallen star of late but don’t know if MSU will look in that direction because of the recent backslide. This year partly due to the gambling stuff.

I could see Elko (another candidate mentioned) taking it as well. Don’t know what his buyout is though as Duke is private. His pattern has been taking upward mobility and more money though. First alongside Clawson in the early stages of his career then from WF DC to ND DC (money and upward mobility) to A&M DC (money) to Duke HC (money and upward). So it’s not unrealistic to think MSU (money and upward) might be attractive for him.
 
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OK so MSU declared their intent, and Mel responded. Now they BOTH need to do the smart thing, which is lock themselves in a room for a few hours and reach a confidential settlement which is somewhere between 40-60% of what's left on the contract. They can both walk away happy, because neither wants this drawn out - MSU because it just reinforces what a cesspool of sexual deviance it's been and continues to be, and for Mel to let everyone hear the details of what an idiot scumbag he is, and prevent further embarassment to his family. $30M ain't too shabby to go away and disappear.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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OK so MSU declared their intent, and Mel responded. Now they BOTH need to do the smart thing, which is lock themselves in a room for a few hours and reach a confidential settlement which is somewhere between 40-60% of what's left on the contract. They can both walk away happy, because neither wants this drawn out - MSU because it just reinforces what a cesspool of sexual deviance it's been and continues to be, and for Mel to let everyone hear the details of what an idiot scumbag he is, and prevent further embarassment to his family. $30M ain't too shabby to go away and disappear.
I could see it settling for $2.5 M or so for this reason. The school isn’t forking over a material portion of the contract.
 

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My guess at most likely next steps:
1. School still needs to go through the hearing on October 5 per their policy.
2. They will uphold the termination
3. Mel's attorneys will dispute the termination
4. After a bunch of back and forth over next few months , the attorneys for both sides will discuss a settlement probably in neighborhood of 5-10 million to avoid the nuisance, legal costs and press on the issue. Remember Mel has no reason to go quietly away. The press about him can't get any worse.
5. She will file a civil lawsuit against both Mel and the School. This also will eventually be settled out of court.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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Yup - this says it all.

Every organization has a conduct policy of sorts that read this way and is baked into the anti-harrassment guidelines. Michigan State has backing at both the state and federal level for the fire to cause with topic being so important in the US that annual harrassment training for all employees is a requirement. He’s toast. None of the courts are going to support him - this will be a rare case of bi-partisan agreement.

The only thing he has going for him is the ability to continue making Michigan State look bad for not canning him sooner.