Military Strikes on Iran Imminent

baltimorened

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You know what, you got me and I'm legitimately embarrassed about doing this so I need to do a mea culpa and apologize. This is something I've long attacked posters on the right for doing and I guess I got caught up in it yesterday and failed to do my due diligence like I normally do - my bad. Not all of those videos were old but some were so I will delete them. I know I'll probably still take heat for it but it's the right thing to do so F it.

But for the record, my thoughts on this war echo what national security expert Tom Nichols said:

“People predicting disaster: The odds are in your favor, but you cannot be sure, and you should not hope to be right.

People celebrating: "Maybe wanna wait a bit. The odds, historically, are definitely not on your side. Anyone certain they know what happens next is making it up.”
boy we could say that about a lot of issues.."might want to wait a bit....."
 

ANEW

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I just feel like we needed to have a plan in place for what comes after before we risked another forever war, instead of hoping the unarmed citizenry would storm the palace gates and take over, but who knows, maybe it will all work out, we'll see. If it does, I will be happy to give Trump kudos for getting rid of the biggest state sponsor of terrorism we've seen in decades, maybe ever.
Just because you (or I) don't know it doesn't mean that there isn't a plan. Its not goig to be announced!

We're on day 2 and and we're going to be smoking IRGC for the next few weeks. Regime change to "normal" would be the best outcome, and IMHO we/israel are going to try and help that along. However maybe the help we're willing to give doesn't get the job done. If it doesnt, then at least Iran will be so degraded that their capacity for shennanigans will be much, much, much less. I'm also of the opinion that after this, Israel's Mossad will be more active and more effective in Iran going forward.
 
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dpic73

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Just because you (or I) don't know it doesn't mean that there isn't a plan. Its not goig to be announced!

We're on day 2 and and we're going to be smoking IRGC for the next few weeks. Regime change to "normal" would be the best outcome, and IMHO we/israel are going to try and help that along. However maybe the help we're willing to give doesn't get the job done. If it doesnt, then at least Iran will be so degraded that their capacity for shennanigans will be much, much, much less. I'm also of the opinion that after this, Israel's Mossad will be more active and more effective in Iran going forward.
I hope you're right.
 

tigres88

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5. As I've suggested elsewhere, I'd guess that over half of the stuff you see on X is unreliable at one level or another. So use it to triangulate, but take it with a very large grain of salt. Re the strike at the girls' school, wouldn't be surprising (just as the death of us service members is not surprising), but also was not particularly surprised when I read a reliable piece (from BBC I think?) indicating that the school was colocated next to an IRGC base. (Or is it the other way around?)
I respect your posts alot, and I've learned from them.

However, the amount of propaganda, drivel, and complete falsities that are posted CONSTANTLY from the MAGA adherents on this board from X is literally constant. @dpic73 was wrong here, and like someone with integrity, owned it. He apologized.

You pop up every now and then, moreso lately, but I haven't seen you push on the constant stream of MAGA Twitter/X propaganda in this forum. While the non-Maga's on this board will post from CNN, or articles that can be deemed as biased at times, almost ALL of them are careful to make sure they fact check and make sure what they post is verified. The MAGA crew on here doesn't.

It doesn't pass the consistency test for you to FINALLY call it out in one instance where a non-MAGA poster posted something that was untrue from X.
 

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I respect your posts alot, and I've learned from them.

However, the amount of propaganda, drivel, and complete falsities that are posted CONSTANTLY from the MAGA adherents on this board from X is literally constant. @dpic73 was wrong here, and like someone with integrity, owned it. He apologized.

You pop up every now and then, moreso lately, but I haven't seen you push on the constant stream of MAGA Twitter/X propaganda in this forum. While the non-Maga's on this board will post from CNN, or articles that can be deemed as biased at times, almost ALL of them are careful to make sure they fact check and make sure what they post is verified. The MAGA crew on here doesn't.

It doesn't pass the consistency test for you to FINALLY call it out in one instance where a non-MAGA poster posted something that was untrue from X.
Candidly, it’s because I tend to ignore it in the first instance.
 

Aardvark86

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I mean, I respect that you have higher expectations for non-MAGA's (obviously I do too) than MAGA's but it certainly leads to me to other questions ideologically about your perspective.
I am more conservative than not. I am not down with bad process though. I’ll take bad decisions, but not bad process
 
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tigres88

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I am more conservative than not. I am not down with bad process though. I’ll take bad decisions, but not bad process
Fair, I respect that and feel similarly though on the other side.

Still, better to call the plank in your own side's eye than the speck in the other- I try and do the same on this aisle.
 
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dpic73

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Yikes, Iran just doesn't GAF anymore.



"The US embassy in Riyadh has issued a security alert advising American citizens to “shelter in place immediately”.

The embassy’s post on X said:

The US Mission to Saudi Arabia has issued a shelter in place notification for Jeddah, Riyadh and Dhahran and are limiting non-essential travel to any military installations in the region – we recommend American citizens in the Kingdom to shelter in place immediately.
The US Mission to Saudi Arabia continues to monitor the regional situation.
The alert came as a Saudi defence ministry spokesperson was quoted as saying an attack by two drones on the embassy had caused a fire.

Fox News is reporting that the embassy was empty at the time of the strike and there were no injuries."

 

newfan123

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Yikes, Iran just doesn't GAF anymore.



"The US embassy in Riyadh has issued a security alert advising American citizens to “shelter in place immediately”.

The embassy’s post on X said:


The alert came as a Saudi defence ministry spokesperson was quoted as saying an attack by two drones on the embassy had caused a fire.

Fox News is reporting that the embassy was empty at the time of the strike and there were no injuries."

They have been directly or indirectly killing Americans for decades and they know this is the end game for their nuclear ambitions and for their ability to project power. Every missile they fire into one of the other gulf states isolates them further.
 

dpic73

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They have been directly or indirectly killing Americans for decades and they know this is the end game for their nuclear ambitions and for their ability to project power. Every missile they fire into one of the other gulf states isolates them further.
Agreed but is it not curious that it seems like they're begging to be annihilated? They will be surrounded on all sides by enemies willing to give them the martyrdom they appear to be seeking.
 

newfan123

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Agreed but is it not curious that it seems like they're begging to be annihilated? They will be surrounded on all sides by enemies willing to give them the martyrdom they appear to be seeking.
I'd say it is a symptom of chains of command and communications being decimated so maybe some uncoordinated decisions being made at lower levels . But, on the other hand they seem to be aiming at us. The reality is they are in a no win situation. They are screwed no matter what they do. Stripped of their power and with strong us leadership and engagement in the region they are not going to get any love from their neighbors no matter what they do.
 
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