This team needs the crowd of Rupp. An underdawg team that gets to play in an empty Rupp is basically playing a home game. There is no one to push this team. Say what you want, but these kids need and want the cheers. If you ever played sports, you will remember that you were able to push that little extra when the crowd was on your side and sometimes even more if they were against you.
Missing Crowds
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I agree. The massive home court advantage is not the same without fans in the stands. Less exciting for viewers at home as well. IMO
Using that logic that means we should win away games where we are the underdog. Somehow I think That logic will prove faulty.
Lack of fans levels the playing field, which basically means the better team is going to win most of the time. We are finding out that we are seldom the better team.
Lack of fans levels the playing field, which basically means the better team is going to win most of the time. We are finding out that we are seldom the better team.
Overblown, IMO. I guess this team can't play much worse. But we think Askew plays better in front of 20k people? I don't. I don't think young teams would play better with more eyes on them, at this stage... especially because in some of these games, they'd be getting boo'd. Older teams? Sure.
Likely, the bigger issue is home crowds not influencing the officials. There's isn't much of a home court advantage. Another reason Coach K likely quit..
Likely, the bigger issue is home crowds not influencing the officials. There's isn't much of a home court advantage. Another reason Coach K likely quit..
Most SEC schools basketball fans don’t seem to care much when they play other teams except our program, so it will help that this team won’t see that this year. We usually have to play in very tough environments. Our fans are great with our home attendance and traveling all over the country to watch our program play. The BBN has by far the best fans in the country.
Exactly. I think this is more of a benefit than a hindrance. And I could be wrong, but I don't think fans yelling "THEY PAY YOU 10 MILLION?!" at the bench for 40 minutes really helps motivate the players.
every team is in the same boat. Actually our players at least get to play in front of 3,000 fans. Most teams aren’t playing in front of any fans. We actually have an edge there so this is a bad excuse.
Some fans would probably yell that, but a lot would get behind the team as well. I don’t think that’s a fair assessment at all.
Only benefit it may drown out Cals Screaming uncontrollably at the players instead of actual coaching.
I'm not so sure. I'm half speaking in jest (although I think @morgousky might yell it).. but the crowd would boo this team.
For sure after that first half the crowd would have been furious.
Well, I can’t say that wouldn’t happen. You’re right on that one for sure.
And that's why I don't think having 20k in the fans is some benefit at this moment.
But what does that say about this team lol. If we had 20k fans going nuts, would Askew have tightened up even more? Shudders to think..
One of the things I like about talking about the team on this board. I didn’t understand fully what you meant and now i see you were on point. I probably need to do a better job of not sounding combative. I never really get mad or make angry posts but I’m not the best with how I word things.
Not having a home crowd hurts us more than most other teams.
In a normal year, a team steps into Rupp and feels the crowd against them and it adds pressure. On the other hand, our kids feel a boost. These young kids have no one to lift them up when the game gets hard, like they would in a normal year.
Now take away the crowd and the advantage goes to the other team that is energized to play against Kentucky and prove themselves and there is no pressure put on them from the crowd.
It remains to be seen whether not having crowds against us on the road matters or not. The other teams still looks at the Kentucky on the jersey and is still motivated to prove themselves against the best, so they still have that advantage regardless of where it is played.
It is true that this pandemic has impacted every team, but it hasn’t impacted every team equally. I think UK is at a disadvantage because of several circumstances that the pandemic has just made worse.
In a normal year, a team steps into Rupp and feels the crowd against them and it adds pressure. On the other hand, our kids feel a boost. These young kids have no one to lift them up when the game gets hard, like they would in a normal year.
Now take away the crowd and the advantage goes to the other team that is energized to play against Kentucky and prove themselves and there is no pressure put on them from the crowd.
It remains to be seen whether not having crowds against us on the road matters or not. The other teams still looks at the Kentucky on the jersey and is still motivated to prove themselves against the best, so they still have that advantage regardless of where it is played.
It is true that this pandemic has impacted every team, but it hasn’t impacted every team equally. I think UK is at a disadvantage because of several circumstances that the pandemic has just made worse.
Imo it isn't even just about the fan support. After all we all know Rupp isn't exactly the rowdiest place.
It's as much about a crowd period. These guys are performers in addition to athletes. They came here in part for the spotlight. Unfortunately given the circumstances that's just a piece of the puzzle missing and it shows
Jmo
It's as much about a crowd period. These guys are performers in addition to athletes. They came here in part for the spotlight. Unfortunately given the circumstances that's just a piece of the puzzle missing and it shows
Jmo
I think the psychological impact of the home crowd on the officials is underestimated by many.
You get a small arena like Cameron Indoor where the fans are almost on top of the officials and there's no way they're not influenced by the crowd. Plus, when k gets up and starts yelling that whips up the crowd even more.
This is interesting to read, because before the season started all I read here was the smaller crowds would help our group of young players because it would be less “stressful”, or something like that. The excuses keep getting moved around.
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Georgia Tech did fine in their empty arena.
If I was getting my *** handed to me by the storied Richmond Spiders I would be plenty motivated.
Come out with it. I was a HUGE proponent of this. The posts you're referencing are likely mine.
But im not conceding it either. I still think this team plays worse with a crowd. Our fans were going to make this team hit shots? I dont see it. I think big crowds add to nerves. Much easier to play in an open gym.
So...does that mean that RUPP does really get loud normally...and that those Blue Hairs REALLY DO make some noise? I'm confused.
I may not always agree with you, but your admitting a stance that may not be popular to some and giving good examples for why. Definitely made me change my thinking on crowds effect on young teams including with away games.
And by the way I don’t disagree with your original stance on it so kudos for sticking by it. I just find it funny that the thing that so many said would help us is actually being used as an excuse now.
When I was 20 I screamed at Tubby from about 7 rows up the entire second half. I routinely told him to go back to Georgia. I was giving him pointers and telling him what he was doing wrong. Everyone around me absolutely loved it. Nobody had a problem with it. And Tubby heard every single word.
The guy never turned around once. Never tried to have me confronted. Never asked for me to be ejected.
I’ll always give him some major props for that. That’s how it should be.
Yes if I was anywhere near Cal right now he’d know it.
Good lord line, athletes play BETTER with crowds. I couldn’t imagine when I played trying to get into game mode without fans. That’s the worst take you ever had. I won’t even get into it.
Only thing the empty Rupp is really missing is Cal getting boo’d off the court during these embarrassing losses and fans walking out at half time of this last game down 22 at home and it would have been empty in the second half but sent a message to the administration.
like in football, fans don’t renew season tickets and walk
Out and boo when a sub par product is put out and things will change, similar to Tubbys end.
Cal picked a great year to
Lay an egg honestly. Gives him a mulligan, but we need 5 returners Sarr and a couple 5 stars or next season could be the same and his last IMO.
like in football, fans don’t renew season tickets and walk
Out and boo when a sub par product is put out and things will change, similar to Tubbys end.
Cal picked a great year to
Lay an egg honestly. Gives him a mulligan, but we need 5 returners Sarr and a couple 5 stars or next season could be the same and his last IMO.