It's time to bring back Williams and Stansbury. At age 80 and 66 they would do better. Stansbury go get them and Williams coach them. *****
Mississippi State basketball thoughts
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It’s pretty simple. 5’10” guards can’t check 6’4" shooters.
I guarantee Richard Williams could coach this team better than Jans has.
And they used snail mail, not email, so it will take administration an extra 2 weeks to even notice, much less organize a focus group to analyze different ways to respond
Yep. We have gotten worse every year as good defenders have left. Now that Cam Matthews is gone we have nothing left.
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1-3-1, coerce the ball to and trap in the corners, put him at the point.
People do NOT want to play Defense, not sexy enough, no rewards.
Learned that in HS.
Learned that in HS.
How do you procure more NIL $ when Jans doesn’t know how to use it to improve the team?
Agree. Y'all know my feelings on baseball. It's a niche sport that is a too expensive money losing luxury for a school like ours. Men's basketball basically breaks even. Football pays all the other bills. We HAVE to cut the luxury sports to the bone in order to keep those sports afloat. You spend what you HAVE to on those and NO more. The rest of the money absolutely HAS to be spent on football.
I doubt it. Richard coached in a totally different era. The kids are different now.
Seems like the lower tier SEC teams are all capable of not only beating the upper tier SEC teams on any given night, but actually blow them out, with the exception of us. Part of that is I don’t think the SEC is ll that good as a league, but it really demonstrates how bad this team is.
Jans will have next year and maybe even 27-28 unless we have a fight in the stands among players. He’s got to get bigger guards but he also needs some dawgs on the team. The softness vs Vandy was Charminesque.
He only gets two more years if his team next year plays with toughness and relentless effort. If next years team shows the same attitude, softness and laziness that this years team shows then he’s gone.
In doubt. Still waiting on the results of the blood work of testosterone levels to come back.
I went down a rabbit hole and it was hiding in plain sight why this portal class are mostly busts. Most barely played at the P4 level before.
Epps - solid SEC guard, but undersized. Played at Georgetown and Illinois, so makes sense he's the best one. It hurts him that all of our other guards are also undersized. I do wish he was more of a true point guard.
Ballard - could barely get on the court at Florida State, averaged 10/9 at Wichita State. My theory is he didn't play against many other 6-11 centers and that helped pad stats. Now a 6th year senior and maybe a bench depth guy at best.
McGhee - Also undersized, but does have skills. Should be/is a useful bench guy, but yet another senior who has never played P4 before.
Achor - another 6th year senior who averaged 7/3 from the bench of Kansas State in 7 non-conference games. Only averaged 16/6 at Samford before that. Decent enough bench guy but I can't believe ANYONE would see those numbers and think "yeah he's a starting 4 in the SEC".
Walker - I get the sense we panicked when KeShawn committed to Auburn and we got the best available forward to fill the spot. Silky smooth on offense but 3" too short for the SEC. Great name though.
Ali - 5 PPG in 20 minutes per game mostly off the bench at Arizona State. I'm a bit perplexed at this one, as he appears to have some offensive skills and can score but doesn't play enough to really know. Appears completely lost on defense (which I assume is why he doesn't play).
IMO Jans currently has 2 SEC caliber starters and team full of bench guys at best. Even if KeShawn had stayed for this year, I think they'd be struggling. But it's his program...if he can't get actual talent here soon, it's a problem. He's quickly burning through the fan support the last 3 years built.
Epps - solid SEC guard, but undersized. Played at Georgetown and Illinois, so makes sense he's the best one. It hurts him that all of our other guards are also undersized. I do wish he was more of a true point guard.
Ballard - could barely get on the court at Florida State, averaged 10/9 at Wichita State. My theory is he didn't play against many other 6-11 centers and that helped pad stats. Now a 6th year senior and maybe a bench depth guy at best.
McGhee - Also undersized, but does have skills. Should be/is a useful bench guy, but yet another senior who has never played P4 before.
Achor - another 6th year senior who averaged 7/3 from the bench of Kansas State in 7 non-conference games. Only averaged 16/6 at Samford before that. Decent enough bench guy but I can't believe ANYONE would see those numbers and think "yeah he's a starting 4 in the SEC".
Walker - I get the sense we panicked when KeShawn committed to Auburn and we got the best available forward to fill the spot. Silky smooth on offense but 3" too short for the SEC. Great name though.
Ali - 5 PPG in 20 minutes per game mostly off the bench at Arizona State. I'm a bit perplexed at this one, as he appears to have some offensive skills and can score but doesn't play enough to really know. Appears completely lost on defense (which I assume is why he doesn't play).
IMO Jans currently has 2 SEC caliber starters and team full of bench guys at best. Even if KeShawn had stayed for this year, I think they'd be struggling. But it's his program...if he can't get actual talent here soon, it's a problem. He's quickly burning through the fan support the last 3 years built.
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I give him another year, but really need to see some "for real" consistent outside shooting. Also look for a true PG that can take over and that is at least 6'2" or taller. Maybe one or two more forwards who can shoot very well (get on plane to Europe for a month and find them). Keep Macura, Grace, and Fleming for sure and go ahead and see if Hubbard is willing to return. If Hubbard doesn't come back, it won't be the end of the world as long as you can find a bigger/much taller replacement. I really think recruiting Europe and associated areas could be very fruitful.
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Gotta give it to em. They took winning an obscure postseason tournament and continued the success into the next season. Hoiberg is a good coach.
It is wild that they have never won a game in the Big Dance.
Agreed. I think the roster turnover we experienced in the last offseason did us in. We lost significant talent who are being very productive for other SEC and D1 teams. I don't know what caused that, team chemistry, personalities rubbing each other the wrong way, or if it was simply a matter of NIL deals, but it was too much for us to overcome. We didn't expect a rebuilding year this year, and now we are looking at rebuilding again next year too, no matter what direction we go.
