Personally I think we're as good as either of them and maybe better than both. So many of you seem to think Missouri is pretty good and Vandy is better than us I just wondered if you could show why .
Missouri and Vandy better than UK? Support it.
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Vandy and Kentucky are pretty close to a push, looking at any of the advanced stats/computer rankings. Toss in home field and we'll probably be a slight (5 point?) favorite against the Commodores.
Missouri a different animal. They've rocketed up the national ratings the last few weeks (e.g., S&P has them 42nd nationally right now, while we're at 91st). Throw in the game being in Columbia and S&P+ today would make Mizzou a 16-17 point favorite. That's a bigger underdog than we'd be against Mississippi State or Georgia.
Missouri a different animal. They've rocketed up the national ratings the last few weeks (e.g., S&P has them 42nd nationally right now, while we're at 91st). Throw in the game being in Columbia and S&P+ today would make Mizzou a 16-17 point favorite. That's a bigger underdog than we'd be against Mississippi State or Georgia.
Ok, but what have they actually accomplished to account for a ranking jump and for that matter, what do rankings have to do with it?
UK is significantly better than Vandy. Dores have no D, unlike last year. I'll be surprised if UK can beat Mizzou though.
A very accurate take I think,do you find it odd that we have played 4 games and we have so little of an idea about how this team(UK) stacks up with anyone left on the schedule not named Ala
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My man busted out the Five Factors. Nice!
How much did obliterating a bottom feeder fcs school help? And a bottom feeder fbs school. They lost to a very suspect UGA team (grossly overrated ) and an average WV team. I still don't see that they've actually accomplished anything.
FCS aren't factored in to S&P+. Only FBS vs FBS teams. It's also adjusted according to SOS.
The rankings have them at a borderline top 40 team. I don't think it's trying to argue they are elite level going on their body work.
Have no idea but Vandy's at home, should give UK an edge while Missouri is on the road where UK rarely wins.
If you look at the UK profile you'll see it ranks the Mizzou and UK offenses pretty similarly, but Mizzou's defense is much better on standard downs and has had better turnover luck.
I'll take Kentucky and 17 against Missouri right now...Bill Connelly bats 52% against the spread...hardly a world beater.
Without looking, tell me who Missouri's coach is and how long he has been there.
I doubt it will be that wide come gametime, but who knows. Just answering the OP's request for evidence Missouri is better.
FWIW, Sagarin would have the spread today at Missouri -13.
Missouri is looking much better than expected mainly because they have a NFL quarterback coming into his own. I didn't expect it to happen this year, especially after he struggled so much as a freshman. This game is not going to be easy. I'd almost place it with a home game against Georgia in terms of difficulty.
I know Pinkel is gone...I was just stating what's happened in the past. I have no idea if current coach is just as good.
MIZZ just Hung 78 on a team and should of beat UGA ,Vandy beat Western KY and western is better then us. Easy case , case dismissed!
People act like Mizzou is a world beater. They scored 11 against WVU, the 108th ranked defense. They lost at home to UGA who barely beat Nicholls. They scored 70+ against a winless 1-AA team which gave up 56 points to another 1-AA team.
Yeah, but who cares about the spread as a fan of team? A win is a win, and a loss is a loss. He and Fremeau do a great job picking straight up over the span of the season.
Either one would beat us...they fumbled the ball in the redzone what 2 or 3 times?
I disagree,last year they wear us out, this year not so much.I think the Vandy game next week goes a long way toward answering this question.
No way that spread would be that high. Missouri was just 7 point underdogs to Georgia at home. That win over the FCS team didn't change it that much.
Well either way it is sad that we have to debate whether we are better than WKU and Vandy