Mixed feelings still on the cruise missiles
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Yeah, I made you look like a complete fool, which wasn't very hard to do. You said they weren't even extracting gas from shale drilling and in about two minutes I cited a source, which you never do by the way, showing the exact amount by year that had been extracted from shale drilling in Ohio.
or how you said there was no cracker plants set up yet.
or how you said there were no gas lines to transport the gas.
Good times!
Maybe. I agree with you she was a terrible candidate (for true Leftists Sanders was better) but no one actually believed Trump was going to beat her until he did.
Then of course it was because of the Russians, but if that's true even they thought she was going to win without their help for Trump right?
I had a guy I worked with that used to say something similar. He was close to retirement age and when asked would always say he was retiring on Monday.
OK, backing up.
He did campaign on a complete Muslim ban, and repeated it several times. He spoke of extra surveillance at US Moques, he even spoke of a Muslim "registry".
How can a reasonable person not conclude that he feels that Muslims are a threat to our security?
But now they get gassed and suddenly they are innocent people and we must retaliate. They've been the same people all along ... the very ones that so many have said we can't let in because they are a threat.
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"I'm calling for a shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what's going on"
I said he campaigned on that, and it's out there all over the place, and you call me a liar for saying that he said it.
This is Trump's mind....
"White....listen.... when I say Muslims... you know... when I say we need to ban Muslims.... because people know.... those that know.... know we need to ban..... Muslims..... but I mean.... certain Muslim.... the bad hombres..... the bad ones..... not the good ones..... the bad ones..... I want extreme vetting..... that's what they call it...... because.... you know.... it's extreme..... and extreme vetting of bad Muslims....."
You start taking this man literally.... and you're going to spend the next 3-4 years going crazy with the **** he says.
Sure.... keep thinking that. [roll] Kooks were saying, "He won't make it a month...." then it was "He won't make it two months...." blah...blah....blah.....
Trump is not going to be impeached... best get used to him as President.
...and he's going to have to get used to being criticized/made fun off for speaking in alt-fact Trumpspeak.
That's the one bonus of his 4 years.
But this notion he's not going to serve 4... people got to stop with the silliness.
According to United Kingdom-based betting house Ladbrokes, the current odds of Donald Trump being impeached or resigning before the end of his first term are at 10/11.
What is funny is that you claim to be an expert and then you thought you set me straight. You made yourself look like a fool because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
I asked why you and more importantly so many others keep repeating a lie about a muslim ban.
You have no clue about anything you ever talk about. Do you honestly think just because you say something people actually believe it? The sad part is, you actually believe it.
I know I dont claim to be an expert on something that I have to google for facts. You claimed to be an expert and you didnt even understand my simple point that is common knowledge in the OG industry. You are a grade A buffoon.
Like I can cite specific numbers for multiple years and you would simply take my word for it. Moron.
I wouldnt take your word about anything regarding thr industry because time and time again you have proven you dont know what you are talking about. The funny thing is that you called yourself an expert. You think deed research sparked the economy. You are a very special sort of stupid Mr. Blart.
Actually I recognize he's a con-man so I don't believe anything he says, literally or otherwise. He does speak exactly like that, which leads me to believe that he's incapable of articulating a reasoned thought. If he's capable of reasoned thought at all.
A lot of his followers do listen to him literally and adopt his thoughts literally. "kick them out" "Lock her up" etc.
I'm going to spend the next 3-4 years dizzy from shaking my head so much at the lunacy.
It isn't a lie Dave ... I've stated repeatedly that he campaigned on a muslim ban, and provided a clip of him repeating and justifying his position on why one is needed. I know you're capable of reasonable thought, but you have to accept the evidence in front of you.
I never said he enacted a complete muslim ban ... and in fact my original post in which you immediately started calling me a liar was talking specifically about his attitude leading up to his election in which he articulated multiple times stopping muslims from entering our country. Again, I provided a clip of him repeating that thought.
The only lie here is the one you keep telling yourself.
This is easy to prove or disprove. If Trump has indeed instituted a "ban" on all Muslims coming into this country, all one has to do is check to see if any have been or curently are being admitted who call themselves "Muslim". If yes, they are being banned, then you're correct. If no, there is no ban, then you are incorrect.
Simple really.
These statistics have not been updated for 2017, but all of the relevant data can be found here:
https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2015
And this is the actual policy: (which says nothing about a "ban" on all Muslims)
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-pres...-nation-foreign-terrorist-entry-united-states
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And therein lies the problem stating his past statements matter. If this EO would be legal for another president at another time, it should be legal for Trump, no matter what he said in the past.
Would it have been? The way it was written and enacted?
I know Obama had a similar one, but it was in response to a specific weakness identified by the actions of a couple of individuals. (I don't know how Bowling Green recovered so quickly from the massacre, kudos to them for their resiliency)
It's conjecture to say whether or not another president would have gotten the same one through, maybe you're right.
The judges all referenced his past statements. Those are irrelevant to the actual EO and situation.
So you too are hung up on his campaign. Funny that you keep talking all his supporters who adopt his words. There was never going to be a muslim ban. He even clarified that during the campaign not that the media bothered cover it fairly. Everytime you or anyone talks about a muslim ban it is a lie. Do yourself a favor and remember that.