True but we need to see that they're building. Mark Stoops has done enough to deserve a 4th year but if we're 5-7 again in 2016 it'll be tough to see where there's any "building" happening.
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True, but according to the many Mitch B sycophants on here he is a faultless sacred cow AD who is not responsible for the ongoing UK football suckitude because it's been that way for 60 years.
Best post on here in months. A+
I imagine if the rupp posters were banned here, you wouldn't see so many fire stoops threads.
Yeah, he inherited a dumpster fire, and guess how long ago that was? Three years. I repeat, THREE YEARS. Not 3 months, not 3 weeks, THREE YEARS. I'm not sure if you're familiar with modern day college football but a whole lot of "dumpster fires" have been well on their way to being extinguished after 3 years (or are at least showing major signs that the fire is being put out). We have ZERO signs that things are heading in the right direction (and don't tell me about recruiting rankings..go ask Derek Dooley, Ed Orgeron, Ron Zook, Will Muschamp and about a dozen other fired SEC coaches how important recruiting rankings are). Recruiting rankings mean nothing in the SEC if you don't have a competent coaching staff to go with them.
I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone with all of these Stoops apologists mysteriously coming out of the woodwork all at once (99% of whom I have literally never seen post or visit this board). Stoops has the hottest seat of any coach in the SEC according to literally every single major college football website and blog, yet our genius fans continue to prop him up and ask for more time. Give me a break with this more time stuff. Just because some of you have low expectations for this program doesn't mean you have the right to poison others with your toxic views that are the reason this program has been where it's at for as long as we can remember. If you're happy with 2-10 and 5-7 that's fine, but keep it to yourself. This is a multi-million dollar RESULTS ORIENTED business, and we as Kentucky football fans deserve better. We deserve a better AD (that can actually make competent decisions) and a competent head coach and staff. We have neither.
I'm fine with Stoops getting a 4th year (although he hasn't earned it) but those of you arguing that he deserves 5-10 more years are living on a different planet and need to do some soul searching about why you actually follow this program. Rich Brooks himself went on Finebaum yesterday and said that next season will be a make-or-break year for Stoops and Co.
Brooks is one of the most patient football coach in the country and realizes the time it takes to build a program, so if he's saying next year is a make or break year then I think it's probably safe for some of you to take his word for it. But who knows, maybe the experts on here know more than him.
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Any reasonable UK fan that has followed the Cats for several years can see improvement in the recruiting. That doesn't mean that we should be playing for the championship We are still not even close to the top teams in recruiting in the SEC . Kentucky has to equal or better the top teams recruiting to gain ground. We are not there yet, but improving.
Kentucky needs to redshirt the whole freshmen class for the next 2 years to build depth at every position. Stoops has chose to play some of the first year players just to be competitive and hold the blowouts to a minimum.
Stoops had 2 SEC wins and played Auburn and Florida {the SEC East Champion } very competitive games, which is another reason I think there was improvement. I can't see why any reasonable Football fan would not agree with that.
The Vandy game had to be the most disappointing of the season. There was management mistakes also. All of the negative plays like dropped passes, poor blocking, poor decisions and inexperience is correctable. As we got deeper into the season the schedule got tougher along with some injuries to key players .It made it hard to have any consistency with penalty's and missed assignments.
The bottom line is that you can't start at the bottom and accomplish that much at Kentucky in just 3-4 years playing the toughest schedule in the nation most years.
In closing I hope I haven't poisoned you with my toxic views. I also think Brooks can hold his own with most of the posters on this site, but I do think you misinterpreted what he said about next year would make or break Stoops. He said that because he knows how impatient UK fans can be. He's been there and done that :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Just 1 more note---Yes I'm familiar with modern day college football and I haven't seen a "dumpster fire" extinguished in just 3 years at UK. I've been watching for 60 years
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Glad you posted that. Those of us who still support Stoops take some bashing around here. Cue the guy who stalks my posts. Lol!
That being said, if you don't mind me asking, who is your son? I am thankful he chose to play for the CATS!
It's unbelievable isn't it?
People, the truth remains no matter how many times ukani post things that mean ZIP to the current issues at UK surrounding football.
You have an AD who isn't concerned with big things. He's a do nothing AD who has the support of his boss. He will continue to rake in SEC pie money and you will never see a winning product, unless it's pure luck. These same types like the OP will be here in 3 years explaining why we can't have a football program, instead of demanding a man with a vision.
Thanks god our basketball people don't allow his crap in basketball. I love that Cal told Mitch to stick it and gtfo.
There is no real "fire stoops crowd" anyway. Your whole premise is false but you wouldnt care about that anyway. We can't fire him, are you paying any attention at all? Our mentally challenged AD just locked in the guy for at least another two years. See ya then with all of your pointless and endless excuses.
I agree with you on that. I think the overall attitude can't be "Fire Stoops" it has to be in year 4 Stoops "Show Me Something". Stoops isn't above criticism at all, so he has to show us. Us as fans can't want a revolving door after 3 years though, especially when he began in such a hole.
Name 1 excuse I've given? In all my posts I've given 1 fact and asked each person their plan for if he was fired. Nobody has given a plan, all they've said was that I'm the problem and that its pointless, just as you are stating. But yet these types will start another thread on how bad Stoops is. So isn't it pointless to talk about how bad he is and how bad Mitch is and yall don't even have a feasible plan yourself? its like the blame game with nobody wanting to come up with solutions, and when you do they are quick to down you and say its pointless....lol... IJS
Not really a do nothing AD after all he Steals from the Cash cow and spreads it around to bring the other sports up and leaves the money maker hanging !
I agree with ukani, until somebody comes up with a realistic successor, improved recruiting,player development, in game coaching , Stoops should get more time to prove himself! I've also watched for 60 years and this is the first attempt by the administration to have a SEC football program. Sorry,but you can't correct 65 years of neglect in 3,4,or 5 years,it doesn't happen like that! Will agree that Stoops needs to show major improvement in schemes and game adjustments!
Really misinformed off the wall post. That said you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
ukani and others of his ilk will - no matter how common the results - keep posting over and over and over again that Stoops is the best thing since sliced bread and that anyone who doesn't agree can go to hell. Until of course they are the last ones to know he isn't. At which point they will blame him when the next bad hire occurs. That's what people do when they don't understand.
Stoops appears to be in over his head. I would hire someone who is not. Sounds feasible.
So there goes your "nobody has offered a plan" drivel.