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I don’t understand why these families who obviously care about our sports don’t give a big donation to NIL to get us a chance competitively. To me at least it’s obvious we are falling behind especially on the football field.
I think the appropriate response is "thank you."
Also, moving forward NIL will be much more integrated with the AD. So money here helps there.
Edit: Let me also say, I've seen some pushback on the idea of building a new IPF at all, and I get it. We all want to have more money to buy better players. But something we are also fighting is a perception that we are broke/second class/poverty program, etc.
Over time, top notch facilities should help to change that perception.
I've heard of multiple instances of us offering more money to a player just to have them go elsewhere because of this perception.
Not knowing how much NIL there is and not knowing who is contributing, they might actually be doing both. I think the athletic department is bragging about what they should be bragging about and keeping quiet what they should keep quiet.
State Excellence Fund is NIL...
When not promoting tariffs and Bitcoin, finding OTHER ways to spend other people's money is another SixPackSpeak favorite...
Once rev share goes into effect, the State Excellence Fund will largely replace external NIL efforts. External NIL will be on top of what is estimated to be $20MM/year going to athletes directly from the athletics department at all major programs.
Our athletics department has already shifted its fundraising approach to encouraging our donors to give to the Excellence Fund.
Separate question: What if rev share doesn't happen the way we think it will? Will we have millions of dollars intended for players that can't be spent on players?
I know a big donor here in Madison that is disgusted with NIL and has pulled all of his family's funding. He doesn't want one penny going to paying athletes and they could not guarantee that funds given to the State Excellence Fund would not be used for revenue share/NIL.
I'm wondering if these families feel the same way so they are giving to a building instead.
I'm wondering if these families feel the same way so they are giving to a building instead.
You anon boys really need to get usernames so we can better keep up with who's bitching about what.
Well, this comment is completely apropos of the other discussions on here today.
"I know 100% there has to be something wrong with this fantastically outstanding news for our school and athletic teams. Hang on while I look for it."
Is this great Bulldog fan giving his money to the university in other departments? I would hope so. That would be much better than just taking his money and going home (leaving MSU out to dry in the meantime) because he's mad at the NCAA.
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We need all the help we can get in every aspect. Don't complain about and donation, how little or infrequent. Where it goes or when it's given. Just be happy people are making these kinds of investments. On the other hand we have been much better in the past so not sure if we just went with a stale mate or other schools have made better decisions. I know with scholarships/admissions we should be doing what ole miss does.
Imagine being the Arkansas donor(s) who put up huge NIL money for that downpayment to get the Madden Ianaleava quarterback who took their money and then ran off to UCLA before ever showing up.
Again, this comment makes zero sense. We aren’t struggling with NIL funds. That’s where a lot of these donations are going.
The Goldings are great people and have nothing but State’s best interest in mind and at heart. I trust given their previous financial contributions, they are on the inside and know how best to apply their donation. Thank you Steve and Melodie!
Goldings are good people and great bulldogs. Plus it's their money they can donate it to whatever they want. Thank them for their contribution.
I'm deeply grateful for the generosity of families and gifts like this. At the same time, I often wonder: what level of support is truly needed for us to be competitive? Sometimes, contributions like these—while appreciated—can feel like firing a BB gun at a tank.
2.5 mil is no bb gun.
We're not the poor ole Mississippi state anymore. We have a guy reaching out unlocking our potential that wasn't seen before because the ones before him went through the motions with fundraising, just played to the ones that have done it before, not reaching out to new families. Yes we don't have the numbers line lsu and tamu does but we do have some heavy hitting alumni/ families and a lot of Mississippi alumni that while might not be making millions a year, are in Mississippi and willing to give back because they do go to games, etc vs someone like vandy who makes a premium but doesn't care about sports and isn't in Nashville to start to care about it.
That gets to the next point of, even if donations don't go all to sports, these wealthy vandy donors are sending money for educational purposes, appreciate every donation, no matter how little or big, because it all adds up and is needed across the board to keep up.
That gets to the next point of, even if donations don't go all to sports, these wealthy vandy donors are sending money for educational purposes, appreciate every donation, no matter how little or big, because it all adds up and is needed across the board to keep up.
That may not have been the best choice of words or analogy on my part. However, when you look at some of the NIL deals being made these days, it does raise the question: what would it realistically take for us to be competitive?
We are doing pretty well on the donation front. There will always be a handful of schools that have deeper pockets, but from a monetary standpoint, we have enough to be competitive in the SEC.
The general vibe and consensus (in regards to Selmon/Lebby) among the fanbase and donors that matter, is okay. Sixpack has largely become just a negative cesspool. Which is unfortunate, I think the purpose of this board is starting to miss the mark.
Well the good news is that we will have a good idea of where we stand in week 2. ASU will be a top 15 team and Leavitt is a projected top 5 QB (I don’t see it).
If the defensive front is half of what has been hyped so far at least we shouldn’t be giving up 300 yards on the ground to any single back.
If we could get a win over ASU and avoid an 0-8 in the SEC, maybe some of the constant negativity can be tamed. The sad part is the negative Nelly crowd has never been this vocal, not even during the Crooms error.
I agree. We should know pretty quickly if Lebby has improved.
I was in high school during the late Sherrill years/ creation of the board. Spent my college years watching terrible football under Croom. All that being said, I’ve read this board since the beginning and I understand its roots. But it’s become a pissing match of who can say the most sarcastically pessimistic comment. To the point where what’s said on here isn’t even rooted in reality anymore.
This is probably the truest thing said on here about this topic.
Do people really think someone who is donating $2.5M to the school is just doing it blindly? That these wealthy, seemingly intelligent people didn't think to ask, "Where should this money go that will help the most?"
Can we also make this a scholarship for anyone who scores a 24 on the English section of the ACT
Definitely not reality.
even your post is guilty of it. The teams record can improve this year and it doesn’t mean Lebby changed or got better. We sucked talent wise last year.
if Lebby does the exact same things and our talent has improved we’ll be better.
hard to tell how good of a coach he was last year bc the talent was so bad.
I’m certainly not saying this about the $2.5 million donation but rich people and poor people and all in between are guilty of doing this.
sometimes egos get in the way and they want what they want.
but it’s their money and they get to choose.
Yeah who knows what will happen this year. But to your point, everyone wants to believe the reason we had a tough season in 2024 is because Lebby sucks and Selmon does too (which is a possibility!). But completely ignoring the fact we had 3 different coaches in 3 years with very little talent.
We are recruiting exactly where we have been since Mullen got here. Our problem isn’t money. It’s coaching. We have already proven we can be competitive recruiting like we are now.
Again this is idiotic.
Lebby is in year 2 and he came into a worse situation than Mullen. Croom had some talent here. We can go to the nfl draft and compare if you want. Not great talent but some.
lebby not only walked into less talent but he also walked into nil and infinite transfers and a coaching fruit basket turnover of epic proportions.
he may suck as a coach but we have no idea yet. I don’t care what you think you know.
Additionally, we’ve been playing catch-up in the NIL/transfer portal era. We had an AD from 2016-2022 (a crucial period of college athletics) who did essentially nothing to lead efforts in NIL and tried his best to treat baseball as the #1 priority. This is not good for any school, especially one like Mississippi State, who needs to be ahead of the curve in these situations.
Nothing is no one else donates but it has to start somewhere and they weren't the first
Maybe so, but thankfully in this particular case, I am 100% certain they asked where the money would be the most beneficial, and that's where the money went. This family wants to help MSU, not go on an ego trip.
I can't speak for all the donors of course.
I don’t disagree with any of that, and if it came off like I was blaming Lebby for what he inherited last year that was not my intention. Now if you don’t change your attitude when speaking to me I’m going to have to meet you at the sonic.
Thankful for the Goldings. They are on the track facility and on the gates of DWS as well. And I’m sure a lot of places we don’t see.