MSU 17 OSU 14!!!

Abro1975

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Final 4 berth in jeopardy for the Big 10 now Probably not, but a decent chance.
 
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MSU with wins over Michigan and OSU now and in the driver's seat of the B10 east. What does that do to the playoff as well now? Can MSU make it's way back up, can OSU make it back in with a win over Michigan?

Maybe it took Cook being out for them to get that underdog feel back...lol.
 

Scarlet_Scourge

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WOW!

If MSU beats PSU they win the East and will play Iowa in the Big Ten Championship for a playoff spot.

Madness!
 

Blitz8RU

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How is it that we can play MSU close and score points vs them to keep it very close but get blown out vs OSU while looking noncompetitive all while MSU beats OSU? What gives?
 

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Winner of undefeated Iowa vs 11-1 Michigan State in B1G Championship should make it IMO.
 
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I think the B10 champ game winner can still get in. If it's undefeated Iowa vs either 1 loss MSU or 1 loss OSU then I think the winner should get in.

PAC12 is out with everyone having 2 losses. It's ND you have to worry about but they won't really have a good win just the best loss against Clemson. MSU will have wins against Michigan and OSU. And if it's OSU they'll have a win over Michigan. Iowa would be undefeated. So any of those 3 I think can match up against ND resume wise.
 

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Definitely scratch Meyer off our list of potential head coaches. Stunningly poorly coached game by him.
No joke; that was. No Connor Cook, playing at home, inclement weather, what more could the Buckeyes ask for.

What a joke if either Iowa or Michigan State makes it into the Final 4.
 
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No joke; that was. No Connor Cook, playing at home, inclement weather, what more could the Buckeyes ask for.

What a joke if either Iowa or Michigan State makes it into the Final 4.
Who else should? As of now...Clemson yes, Alabama yes, B12 winner likely, then it's either ND or the B10 winner and to me as I explained above that looks to lean towards the B10 winner.

I'd say the fly in the ointment would be if next week PSU won, Michigan won and then Michigan beat Iowa in the B10 champ game. Then I think the B10 would be big danger.

Edited to correct for Michigan in the champ game instead of MSU.
 
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RUschool

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ND might get in beating their best teams Navy and Pitt, teams we normally beat without a problem.
 

jmg75

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This can only help solidify a one loss Notre Dame team's chances of making the final four. As I loathe the Fighting Frenchies, this greatly depresses me.
 
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ND might get in beating their best teams Navy and Pitt, teams we normally beat without a problem.
Yea but I don't think that's good enough. Assume MSU wins out they'd have wins against OSU/Michigan/Iowa. If not them then OSU, they'd have wins against Michigan/Iowa. Iowa if they win out would be undefeated. So all 3 look to be better than ND IMO.

The problems would come up if PSU beats MSU and Michigan beats OSU next week and then Michigan beats Iowa in the B10 champ game. Then the B10 would be in danger.
 
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TCU is without their starting qb Boykin and they struggled mightily against Kansas last week after the injury.

Unless something crazy happens and they all have 2 losses, I think the B12 winner should get in among Baylor/Ok. St/OU. I think it's likely to be one of the Oklahoma teams.
 

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Awful awful ofensive game calling by Beck. Zeke had 12 carries, JT threw only 16 times, only 2 of them over 5 yards. Husker fans were right about Beck he is awful.

Sparty stacked the line with 9 and 10 in th ebox at times and we still didn;t throw. At one point we had 5 QB draws in a row.

Congrats to Sparty the played smarter and beat us.
 

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Yea but I don't think that's good enough. Assume MSU wins out they'd have wins against OSU/Michigan/Iowa. If not them then OSU, they'd have wins against Michigan/Iowa. Iowa if they win out would be undefeated. So all 3 look to be better than ND IMO.

The problems would come up if PSU beats MSU and Michigan beats OSU next week and then MSU beats Iowa in the B10 champ game. Then the B10 would be in danger.

if psu beats msu and michigan beats osu, michigan goes to the big ten title game
 
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if psu beats msu and michigan beats osu, michigan goes to the big ten title game
You're right I'm counting that 2nd loss as in conference, it was against Utah. Well that would be a problem if they went on to beat Iowa. They'd have 2 losses. They'd have wins over Iowa/OSU but I don't know if that's enough to beat out 1 loss ND.
 

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If Oklahoma State loses one of it's last two, wouldn't an undefeated Iowa team coming off a win vs. 11-1 Sparty/OSU OR a 12-1 MSU go over the Big-12 champ?
 
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If Oklahoma State loses one of it's last two, wouldn't an undefeated Iowa team coming off a win vs. 11-1 Sparty/OSU OR a 12-1 MSU go over the Big-12 champ?
I think it's not likely to be a comparison between the B12 and B10 unless some crazy stuff happens. I think it's likely to be a comparison between both those conferences and ND. Put it this way as long as it's an undefeated Iowa vs either a 1 loss MSU/OSU in the B10 champ game then I think the B10 champ is in no matter the outcome. To me if any of Baylor/OU/Ok. St has 1 loss they likely are in over ND but that's a closer call. Personally, I think ND has the biggest ground to make up because they don't have signature wins to rack up just the signature loss to Clemson. They also don't have a champ game to play.
 

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This article from FiveThirtyEight (written before today's OSU-MSU game) gives a solid statistical look at the playoff picture. If MSU wins out they have them at a 95% playoff chance.

Click here
 
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greenknight

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How is it that we can play MSU close and score points vs them to keep it very close but get blown out vs OSU while looking noncompetitive all while MSU beats OSU? What gives?
League familiarity they've been doing it against each other a long time which is why a new team struggles when entering a new league
 

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No joke; that was. No Connor Cook, playing at home, inclement weather, what more could the Buckeyes ask for.

What a joke if either Iowa or Michigan State makes it into the Final 4.
It's not a joke if an undefeated Iowa gets in. It's not a joke if MSU does, either.
 

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OSU did not play like they should have obviously. What is with the RB throwing the coach under the bus because he didn't get the carries he wanted? And is headed to the NFL.

Perhaps that is why the team is not playing like a team?
 
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OSU had too much time to get lost between the ears as they played 6 weeks in a row of cupcakes. Throw in the WR injuries and QB mess and they never got untracked. I kept reading/hearing the QB situation was finally settled with Barrett but I didn't see anything amazing. Then the police issues. Meyer seemed a little adrift this year
 

Southern Gentleman

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OSU had too much time to get lost between the ears as they played 6 weeks in a row of cupcakes. Throw in the WR injuries and QB mess and they never got untracked. I kept reading/hearing the QB situation was finally settled with Barrett but I didn't see anything amazing. Then the police issues. Meyer seemed a little adrift this year

He is having another heart attack obviously.
 
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LotusAggressor_rivals

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OSU did not play like they should have obviously. What is with the RB throwing the coach under the bus because he didn't get the carries he wanted? And is headed to the NFL.

Perhaps that is why the team is not playing like a team?
It's amazing what losing reveals. It's all fun and games until you lose at home to a team starting their backup at QB.
 

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Another part of the story: tOSU fans booing during the game and reportedly Jones and Elliott tweets that they are outta there after the year.