My Crystal Ball Prediction

MADHAT1

Heisman
Apr 1, 2003
30,663
15,629
113
It really only matters if he signs. Commitments mean nothing.
true, but it's a start
First get them to say their coming, then keep en happy till they sign on the dotted line
My personal opinion is that every verbal should not be allowed to visit any program except to the one he verbaled to and reneging on verbal and going to another program means the loss of being able to red-shirt his/her freshman year
( fantasy island type of thinking in this NIL recruiting environment)
 

NickRU714

Heisman
Aug 18, 2009
13,604
12,367
0
true, but it's a start
First get them to say their coming, then keep en happy till they sign on the dotted line
My personal opinion is that every verbal should not be allowed to visit any program except to the one he verbaled to and reneging on verbal and going to another program means the loss of being able to red-shirt his/her freshman year
( fantasy island type of thinking in this NIL recruiting environment)

Does that go for verbal commitments to other schools that Rutgers is still recruiting?
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/rfootball-flips-ucf-lb-commit-samarian-robinson.262290/
Also, new commit Korey Duff said he was going to actively recruit Josiah Brown (verbal to PSU).
Guess he shouldn't be doing that then?
 

MADHAT1

Heisman
Apr 1, 2003
30,663
15,629
113
Does that go for verbal commitments to other schools that Rutgers is still recruiting?
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/rfootball-flips-ucf-lb-commit-samarian-robinson.262290/
Also, new commit Korey Duff said he was going to actively recruit Josiah Brown (verbal to PSU).
Guess he shouldn't be doing that then?
actually I'd like to see any and every verbal be put off-limits to every program that the one he gave a verbal to.
If a kid verbaled to James Madison and Rutgers wanted to talk to the kid, RU would need permission from JM's HC to do so or face the loss of a scholarship if they bypassed that HC.

As for committed RU players talking to their friends that committed elsewhere , no problem there, but before Schiano or any of his staff could talk to another program's verbal they'd need permission from that other program before any contact was made
But as I stated earlier in this thread, if the recruit decommits from the program he verbaled to and changes his commitment to RU , loss of redshirt year is the result
( yes I'm not talking reality and the real state of the recruiting game, I'm just giving my fantasy version of how I'd like to see the recruiting game played)
 
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MoreCowbellRU

All-Conference
Jan 29, 2012
2,199
1,339
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Does that go for verbal commitments to other schools that Rutgers is still recruiting?
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/rfootball-flips-ucf-lb-commit-samarian-robinson.262290/
Also, new commit Korey Duff said he was going to actively recruit Josiah Brown (verbal to PSU).
Guess he shouldn't be doing that then?
This is a "don't hate the player, hate the game" situation.

I think his suggestion was to change the game by having consequences for reneging on a commitment.

By the same token, coaches who jump ship or pull a scholie on players that have committed to them should have a price to pay as well. Fair is fair.

Don't see any of that happening by the way.
 
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Doctor Worm

Heisman
Feb 7, 2002
29,923
21,827
113
true, but it's a start
First get them to say their coming, then keep en happy till they sign on the dotted line
My personal opinion is that every verbal should not be allowed to visit any program except to the one he verbaled to and reneging on verbal and going to another program means the loss of being able to red-shirt his/her freshman year
( fantasy island type of thinking in this NIL recruiting environment)
I am glad you realize that is a fantasy - in any environment.

The NCAA does not recognize the concept of the verbal commitment. They cannot and will not regulate something which to them does not exist.

This works both ways. The NCAA does not recognize the concept of a verbal offer either. So the NCAA isn't going to stop a school from pulling a verbal offer, or making an "offer" which is not commitable.
 
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mildone_rivals

Heisman
Dec 19, 2011
55,607
51,271
0
It really only matters if he signs. Commitments mean nothing.
What he ^ said.

That's been my attitude for years. Even signing doesn't mean much to me these days. I wait until I see the player on the field for us in a game to get excited.

I don't blame players for this state of affairs. As long as everyone's playing by the same rules, then if there's a problem, it's with the rules, not the people who use the rules to their advantage.
 

RU#1fan

Heisman
Mar 7, 2003
23,115
11,878
113
Hope Carnac is correct


 
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Doctor Worm

Heisman
Feb 7, 2002
29,923
21,827
113
Obviously, verbal commitments are not the be all and end all. But to say that they mean nothing is just wrong. The majority of verbals do hold. Granted, probably not as large a majority as in the pre-NIL days.

At the very minimum, a verbal means that we are in the lead, which is not nothing.
 

mdk02

Heisman
Aug 18, 2011
26,130
18,479
113
Obviously, verbal commitments are not the be all and end all. But to say that they mean nothing is just wrong. The majority of verbals do hold. Granted, probably not as large a majority as in the pre-NIL days.

At the very minimum, a verbal means that we are in the lead, which is not nothing.

To borrow a gem from Hank Stram: "NFL, which means not for long" if you read the other thread,