My man of the month is Musk!
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Time needed to evaluate. Knee-jerk reaction: the uncertainty of talked-about cuts spooked the stock markets and cost me a bunch of stock losses the past three trading days. In addition, i have a bias in that one of my family members is a 20-year fed employee in a mgmt position, with wife and three young kids, now living in economic fear even though job performance is top-notch. I also have a bias in that i own a decent-sized chunk of Tesla stock. I would like Musk to spend more time making that company profitable and increasing sales, instead of getting involved in politics.
Your relative would be better off in the private sector with marketable management skills. Tesla will perform once the market for EVs demands them, and that won't happen until or unless battery charging times go way down and battery life cycles go way up.
That being said we will always need ICE vehicles, especially heavy haulers. ALWAYS.
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Sorry for your family member. However, this has needed done for decades. Every politician has kicked the can down the road for the reasons you mention. All while adding to the disaster by adding more spending along the way. It’s not a short term solution as much as it is for the long term.
Where he works should be his choice, not Elon Musk's. He clearly has the skills, knows the system, and does a meritorious job. He enjoys what he does. Cutting just for the sake of numbers is a guarantee of mediocrity. He's a good, extremely competent employee, supported by his record and rating. Indiscriminate cuts lead to a Brain Drain, compromising our future ability to compete.
Tesla's real value is not EV. Robotics, Robotaxi, and autonomous driving systems are the future revenue producers Musk is/was working to bring about before this detour.
If what you say is true, he’s better suited for the private sector. That’s where the best talent always go.
I sympathize with your relative's plight, but the dirty little secret is what's happening to him happens in the private sector e-v-e-r-y-d-a-y. I reiterate, if he has marketable management skills a good company in the private sector can certainly use his talent. No job is "guaranteed" and Musk I doubt is picking on him, just fulfilling his authorization and mandate to cut the bureaucracy and streamline our government services.
As for Tesla, again the market will determine both its value and long term viability as a company in whatever endeavor it chooses to carve out its niche. The specific things you mentioned are certainly wide open for it to gain market share, but the demand for its "bread and butter" EV is simply not there and as I said without significant improvements in battery technologies I doubt it ever will be.
If he is necessary he should have no problems. Liking your job does not mean you are needed. If he is educated should have zero problems replacing his job .
Nobody cries when I get laid off . I find another job and move along. What makes government employees any better than me ?
My post was not about you. I expressed concern about my relative who is proud to have worked his career for his country and done so faithfully with excellence. I trust that your family would likewise care about you in that situation.
If he's been there 20 years, he's probably fairly safe. I'm guessing you weren't too concerned with the 14,000 keystone pipeline workers that Biden fired for something we need or all the people that the Hidabeast told to learn to code cause we were going to stop mining? Tell him to respond to his email. Hopefully he isn't working for the slush fund USAID. I heard that we were going to build our first oil processing plant since the 70's. It's hard to believe that the shitheads in DC has made it impossible to build one in nearly 50 years
I do not apologize for caring about my relative and his family. I am proud to do so. It is unfortunate that you feel such a strong need to take offense at my concern for my family member and try to guilt me about the rest of the world's problems, over which i have no control.
I don't fault you and it wasn't my point, sorry. Did you care about the 14,000 who lost their job when Biden stopped the KP? I think it's a reasonable question. We do need the pipeline since it's safer moving oil than railroads.
According to my governor, there are over 300,000 job openings in northern Va so all those laid off will have a chance to get readily employed.
I understand and didn't mean to come across as a butthole.
My point is if he is needed at his job and is educated he will be fine
You make it all sound so easy. So under your scenario, even as a meritorious, loyal, patriotic government worker, my relative has to sell his house, move to wherever, buy a new house, have his wife leave her management position at her company that she has worked years to achieve because she enjoys her job, and start all over at a new company, pull all three kids out of school and leave their friends, etc.?
At any of these 300,000 jobs you throw out there, will he and his wife both start out at the same salary level they had, with the same accrued benefits for them and their children?
Even if the answers to all of those questions were positive, you are, still however, missing one of the points. When doing a meritorious job, with commendations, the choice to uproot his entire family should be my relative's decision, not Elon Musk's.
CNN - MSNBC talking point ********. You forgot about the dog and cathaving to move to another destination. Give me a f^uckin' break.
So under your scenario, even as a meritorious, loyal, patriotic government worker, my relative has to sell his house, move to wherever, buy a new house, have his wife leave her management position at her company that she has worked years to achieve because she enjoys her job, and start all over at a new company, pull all three kids out of school and leave their friends, etc.?
So under your scenario, even as a meritorious, loyal, patriotic government worker, my relative has to sell his house, move to wherever, buy a new house, have his wife leave her management position at her company that she has worked years to achieve because she enjoys her job, and start all over at a new company, pull all three kids out of school and leave their friends, etc.?
While that is unfortunate to lose a job, it’s also a reality that most everyone experiences at some point (or multiple points) in life. It should not however be reason to not fix a broken system. We are 39 trillion in debt and the vast majority of it has come in the last 15-20 years. It’s not feasible to stay the course. That said, I wish your family member well in pursuit of another career.
With all due respect, we the taxpayers are paying your relative's salary! I have no doubt he's a good employee, but if management (taxpayers) decide his job isn't worth paying for anymore guess what?
Elon Musk doesn't know your relative, and probably doesn't care if he keeps his particular job or not. Musk's task is to streamline government services. If your relative's job is necessary he likely has nothing to worry about. If he's just floating deadwood, oh well...time to pull up stakes and find gainful employment elsewhere that can utilize his skill sets.
It's nothing personal, it's business. In the private sector we hear that all time when the budget ax falls. It is indiscriminate too! We are 37 trillion dollars in debt and running annual operating deficits exceeding 2 trillion! WE CAN'T KEEP DOING THAT!
If your relative is a Patriot as you describe, he certainly should understand that.
So because he is a government employee who works hard he should be held to a higher standard than us non government employees? In the real world hard working merit based people get laid off and the families have to uproot and move and it wasn't by there choice. It is what it is .
Sorry if I seem unempathetic towards those getting laid off from a job they love and have worked hard at . It happens everyday every where.
You still didn’t answer my one question about the 14,000 workers that were fired by Biden when he decided to suck off the far left wing of the dem party? Did u care about them? I actually do care, I hate it has come to this but we have to do something.
1. Your framing of the question is rather loaded and result-slanted, like a good pollster (credit to you for that ability).
2. As i had no dog in that issue, i honestly didn't pay much attention to it when it was happening.
3. Yes, i feel bad, in a genaeral sense, for folks who lose their job. I say generally because i do not know any of them specifically.
4. I do not know any of the people involved in the 14,000 situation you reference. I do know my relative and his employment and family situation. As i stated clearly and up-front in my original post, i have a bias in that regard, for which i do not apologize.
5. This horse is pretty well beaten. I care about my relative. You don't. Let's respect each other's opinions, the right to have differing opinions, and move on.
I don't watch CNN or MSNBC or Fox or any of those. Burned out on those folks and political crap from both sides long ago. If you think my use of common words of the English language indicate otherwise, that probably says more about you than me. I do watch the CNBC business shows, Friends, Gunsmoke, McHale's Navy, The Rifleman, Laramie, and Tales of Wells Fargo a good bit (are they now taboo?). Oh, i also recently watched Foundation, Silo, See and Vince Vaughan's detective show with my free 3-month AppleTv deal. Maybe it was the Star Wars movies, or the Marvel movies. Who knows?
If I may be of some encouragement to you for your relative I highly recommend he first visit, then upload his updated resume to these folks:
They do a tremendous job of matching job seekers and their unique skill sets with employers in demand for skilled professionals. They also provide resume enhancement services as well as career guidance, salary negotiation strategies and interview approaches. Best part of all, their services are free, funded by companies and/or executive search firms who don't have time to wade through stacks of resumes when they need well qualified, highly skilled candidates who they can hire right away.
Pass that link along to him, encourage him to register and upload his resume just to see where his particular skill sets fit outside of government work if nothing else? Just FYI.
On another topic, how's your area doing? We were supposed to come there back in Nov for a golf trip cause one of our guys is from that area and he wanted us to see the area he grew up in.
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