Name of Hibritens new conf and what are expectations??

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Hello all and happy late 4th. The pigskin is right around the corner and what the title is is just the question. I don't know the name of this new conference but the outlook and expectations are always interesting to see and post.

I pretty much see Hibriten as the big fish in the little pond in FOOTBALL for SURE but all the other sports, yeah pretty much big fish in little pond again. Not much competition for them which could lead to early playoff exit. What are the expectations??
 

Burkeforreal

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My predictions: very predictable at the top but very interesting toss up for the rest

1. Hibriten- no brainer
2. Patton- heard a lot of good things and team must be on the rise. I see a decent chance at 2nd.
3. West Iredell- even though lost to North Lincoln last year which was the lowest team or next to it in that conf. Athletes on the rise and may surprise people. On a limb on this one.
4. Bunker Hill- if the track heros come out, watch out. A program that can be much better than usual.
5. Draughn- could be 3rd, could be 5th. Always had the better players on that portion of county when old East Burke was still 4a EB.
6. Foard- taking a gamble at number 6 cause they looked much improved last year. Should move this to 3 but give the others the benefit of the doubt.
7. East Burke- EB Middle has not won a game in years. Brown gone, JVs not much to brag on from last year. I have to put my old school at the bottom and hope they don't stay there. Somewhat decent speed coming around in the coming years. Shouldn't be a bottom feeder long.

Any other nice guesses lol??
 

beamer24

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Conference is a joke but JM Robinson, Newton Conover and West Caldwell should all be good nonconference games.
I think conference is called NW 2A.
Hibriten returns alot of good players but will have to replace alot as well.
Month and a half away.
 

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I have heard that some of the better athletes at Patton and Draughn have transferred to Freedom.I do not know if it is true or not.
 

Burkeforreal

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I have heard that some of the better athletes at Patton and Draughn have transferred to Freedom.I do not know if it is true or not.

Wouldn't surprise me considering they have a no nonsense Donald Trump style coach that tells it like it is and coaches like a champ. Looks like a dynasty is about to take place if all the athletes come out and get on board. Glen Alpine/Oak Hill area always carried bulk of the talent at Freedom anyway so when Patton was made it didn't hurt as much as the EB spilt.
 
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Burkeforreal

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Conference is a joke but JM Robinson, Newton Conover and West Caldwell should all be good nonconference games.
I think conference is called NW 2A.
Hibriten returns alot of good players but will have to replace alot as well.
Month and a half away.

Hibriten have a strong jv team last year? I don't remember. I know that's never a strong indicator for the next year or so after but it helps. NW 2a would be a good name for it. I like how all the schools have a short drive from each other. Patton and West Iredell distance is kinda big but it sure didn't compare to Crest and Watauga having to travel to each other years ago lol. I'm sure those ADs was clapping after that conf change.
 

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As for Hibriten, I don't see them being challenged in conference play.
I see them going pretty deep again this year.

Beamer - who will be QB this year?
 

beamer24

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The backup from last year was a sophomore and he got a lot of reps. I think there trying out a bigger kid as well.
JM Robinson should give a good indication of how good Hibriten is.
 

patsfball

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JM program has turned around but will miss QB Dale.
I don't see them stopping Hibriten's offense.
 

Burkeforreal

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Anyone just for fun want to guess the conf finish- just start with number 2 n down cause 1 is waste of finger typing time lol
 

Burkeforreal

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you did a pretty good job with it Burke but didn't
do any favors for EB. :)

Well Pats I'm just a realist but try to be as optimistic as possible. They might finish next to last and draughn finish last since they seem to play them harder than any opponent.
 

patsfball

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The whole Draughn thing was a bad decision based on
several things. Draughn & East Burke both will remain
to be bottom feeders in football.
 

Burkeforreal

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The whole Draughn thing was a bad decision based on
several things. Draughn & East Burke both will remain
to be bottom feeders in football.

Well if Draughn was never made and the ole EB stayed afloat it'd just be a terrible 4a school. Prob do alright against some of the 2a around here SOMETIMES but that's bout it. 2007 seemed to be a once in a lifetime thing for them when Shatley came around. Not only did that once in a lifetime (lol) athlete carry them, he had a few talented guys around him that helped support him that happened to be his age range. If Independence woulda been caught with the intelligible one week before we'd be seeing a state champion thingie hanging in the stadium right now. What happened was, and it was a shame, a lot of that all star talent was suspended the next week and it took a toll against a strong team. Don't remember who that was though.
 

patsfball

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That Shatley team was tough. Don't think E Burke will
ever be close to that as long as Draughn exist. Draughn
has produced one above average season/team and
that's about it. History does show when these two were
together they could win.
 

Burkeforreal

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That Shatley team was tough. Don't think E Burke will
ever be close to that as long as Draughn exist. Draughn
has produced one above average season/team and
that's about it. History does show when these two were
together they could win.

They won't even be halfway to halfway close to that team. 2015 seemed to show some promise that they actually could use some hildebran boys to make a run. Figured they'd be ok the next year since they only lost a good olineman, a running back and a wide out for the most part. Went downhill fast and will even faster next year. I hope I'm wrong and they surprise people. Assistant coach that my buddy talked to one day in a grocery store didn't sound too optimistic
 

patsfball

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I like Coach Buff and wish him the best at EB. He coached at
West Caldwell several years ago and didn't have any
success.
 

Burkeforreal

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I like Coach Buff and wish him the best at EB. He coached at
West Caldwell several years ago and didn't have any
success.

I wasn't knocking coach Roark that came from Myers Park but alittle skeptical when you don't do much with a much more athletic talented group so him coming to EB was prob a new beginning for him and they figured he'd turn something around. Wish him the best were ever he is though.
 

patsfball

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Former East Burke Coach Ruark is with the
Hickory Hawks, associated with Hickory Christian
 

patsfball

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...this team started in Morganton as the Morganton
Mountaineers but changed location/name
several years ago. Ruark's son played for him
and signed with Campbell along with a teammate.
 

patsfball

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A couple of the Hawks players would have been a big boost
to East Burke had they stayed. K. Ruark being one.
 

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I have incredible respect for the Hibriten program and most especially their coaching staff. I know many of the leaders at that school and athletic program and they have outstanding people - that is why they have the sustained run that started under Cannon and continues today under Coach Lewis. Coach Reeves is outstanding - one of the best coaches in western NC. Coach Mackey will be a head coach somewhere soon. Then you have people like the elder Coach Mackey and Coach Poarch who both have head coaching experience and bring so much to the table. You cant overlook those kinds of contributions.

Hibriten will run away with their conference - that is a given - but that will yield them a #1 seed and pretty much a bye into the second round of the playoffs. Come November, their conference schedule will certainly make it more difficult for the Panthers in the playoffs. Its really tough to get things dialed in during a challenging non-conference schedule and then have eight weeks of no-competition (six conf games, bye week and a patsy in the first round of the playoffs) and then turn it on for an 8/9 seed. Still - if a staff can manage this challenge - their's can.

The thing that has always made Hibriten so tough to defend is the balance in their running game. They clearly have an outstanding outside runner in Witherspoon but Hibriten has to establish an inside running threat to be effective. Good teams can scheme to slow down the outside runs OR they can scheme to shut down the FB - It takes a great team (aka South Point) to shut down both. Having said that, i think three things will define Hibriten's success this year. 1) Who emerges at the FB position to replace Scott. He has been huge for them for the past three years and I don't have a clue who would be his replacement. Maybe one of the Panther followers could say. 2) Offensive line play will be critical. Replacing Lewis at Guard will be impossible with just one person. He meant so much to the success of Hibriten's team last year in many ways. 3) Health - Hibriten lost a huge, incredibly talented Sr class. They had incredible depth last year, and this year they still have a number of great football players returning but far fewer experienced studs. With that, the ones they do have will have to play both ways and their backups will not be nearly as good as they were last year.

I am looking forward to the Black and Blue game this year. It will be an outstanding early season test for both teams! West has a lot coming back and Coach Holman and his staff appear to be poised to follow up recent success nicely.
 

Burkeforreal

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This years black n blue should be interesting. I went last year and through Weet might have a shot at an upset. Oh well. Maybe this year if the cards are played right.

12 14 years ago if this conf was in place it'd look about right for all the teams and even the last place team would have a shot at 2nd for middle of pack simply because they would all be, well what's the word for it, low level of play, athleticism and talent. It's a real eye opener to see how far Hibriten has come cause I can remember all too well Hibriten was the joke of the area for a while especially in the 90s and even Foard would whoop up on em'.

In looking for a spark from any other team other than Patton(any non Hib, none Patton team) surely some school will have some kind of standout.

I know I predicted Foard to finish toward bottom but i wouldn't go sleeping on em' as far as how they do with conf play. I only watched em one time last year play what had been the worst South Caldwell team in a long while. The running back Goins was the only thing that kept South in that game for a skin of the teeth win. Foard brings a decent passing attack to the table and should have a 1st team all conf wideout if he didn't graduate
 

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I have incredible respect for the Hibriten program and most especially their coaching staff. I know many of the leaders at that school and athletic program and they have outstanding people - that is why they have the sustained run that started under Cannon and continues today under Coach Lewis. Coach Reeves is outstanding - one of the best coaches in western NC. Coach Mackey will be a head coach somewhere soon. Then you have people like the elder Coach Mackey and Coach Poarch who both have head coaching experience and bring so much to the table. You cant overlook those kinds of contributions.

Hibriten will run away with their conference - that is a given - but that will yield them a #1 seed and pretty much a bye into the second round of the playoffs. Come November, their conference schedule will certainly make it more difficult for the Panthers in the playoffs. Its really tough to get things dialed in during a challenging non-conference schedule and then have eight weeks of no-competition (six conf games, bye week and a patsy in the first round of the playoffs) and then turn it on for an 8/9 seed. Still - if a staff can manage this challenge - their's can.

The thing that has always made Hibriten so tough to defend is the balance in their running game. They clearly have an outstanding outside runner in Witherspoon but Hibriten has to establish an inside running threat to be effective. Good teams can scheme to slow down the outside runs OR they can scheme to shut down the FB - It takes a great team (aka South Point) to shut down both. Having said that, i think three things will define Hibriten's success this year. 1) Who emerges at the FB position to replace Scott. He has been huge for them for the past three years and I don't have a clue who would be his replacement. Maybe one of the Panther followers could say. 2) Offensive line play will be critical. Replacing Lewis at Guard will be impossible with just one person. He meant so much to the success of Hibriten's team last year in many ways. 3) Health - Hibriten lost a huge, incredibly talented Sr class. They had incredible depth last year, and this year they still have a number of great football players returning but far fewer experienced studs. With that, the ones they do have will have to play both ways and their backups will not be nearly as good as they were last year.

I am looking forward to the Black and Blue game this year. It will be an outstanding early season test for both teams! West has a lot coming back and Coach Holman and his staff appear to be poised to follow up recent success nicely.
Not sure one person could replace Chris Scott but a combination of a couple players(Wyke, Watson, Marqwone Jones) might be serviceable to help Witherspoon have some free space
 

Burkeforreal

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Does Hibriten bring back any speed? I know those boys ran the tables in track this year in the sprint events. They're usually so so in the speed department until the last few years. Curious, will they be 2AA or 2A? Just a very wild guess, if they make it past 2nd round after the bye I'm figuring Monroe unless they are of another 2a class
 

beamer24

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Monroe is 3A. Hibriten should be 2AA. Hibriten has plenty of speed.
 

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Witherspoon started halfway during the season last year and was only a sophomore. Other running Miles SIMON started half the game last year. He will be a SR this year. Also have Aaron Logan and Sky Thomas as back up RBs which would starters on most teams.
the new freshmen class at hhs is the most talented freshmen class I've seen at HHS in the last 20 years. Future is bright.
 

Burkeforreal

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Witherspoon started halfway during the season last year and was only a sophomore. Other running Miles SIMON started half the game last year. He will be a SR this year. Also have Aaron Logan and Sky Thomas as back up RBs which would starters on most teams.
the new freshmen class at hhs is the most talented freshmen class I've seen at HHS in the last 20 years. Future is bright.

Are we looking at a 2010 calibure Hibriten team next year and year after?
 

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Hibriten will be tough. Would be very hard to beat if they had a passing game to offset things. Depends on brackets/matchups as to how deep they go.
 

beamer24

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Hibriten will be tough. Would be very hard to beat if they had a passing game to offset things. Depends on brackets/matchups as to how deep they go.
Yep. If I was a betting man I'd day a rematch with South Point or North Davidson would be Hibriten main completion in 2AA West. A long way to go though.