Not at all.
That’s pretty much the view a lot of folks have here. Definitely not condescending in any way lol
When I’m on here talking I’m not seeing myself as being in a debate with people, I’m just interacting with others man. Not arguing, it’s just conversation.
Dude. He had a good year last year. The guy can coach. Maybe he goes back to what worked last year. Maybe he makes staff changes. Coaches have bad years and fix things all the time. It's not unheard of.
I don’t consider last year that good, and we have the same problems we did last year defensively. That tells me it’s a pope problem and something that’s probably not gonna be fixed
If you believe that the people who aren’t ready to fire Pope right this second “want Kentucky to suck” then I’d say you aren’t just interacting with people. That lack of understanding of their rationale tells me you clearly haven’t interacted with them other than dunking.
I already responded to that and said I was joking when I said that. My goodness
I may have missed that.
I’ve seen it said, you gotta understand people are just extremely frustrated with the hire though, along with just not being relevant for like 7 years now. Most people didn’t want him in the first place, and it’s looking like for good reason unfortunately.
And that’s fair. Just be mindful that the “Popeists” are just as frustrated as you. It’s one fanbase of people with all kinds of differences. I’ll bet you there isn’t a single person on this site that is happy with how things have been — not if they are true blue. I don’t think anyone saw this season coming.
We are all frustrated. I get it. I actually understand where you aee coming from. What aggravates me is that most people in your camp call me a bad fan, or say I want to be Indiana, or that I want UK to suck simply because I think a coach should at least get 2 years.
Bro, you don’t know how many times I’ve been called “the problem” with Kentucky basketball by people who have been very vocal about how wrong is to blame our fanbase for being toxic. Literally, like three comments above me, they’re responding to someone who say our fans are a net negative and they’re going off about it, saying we are the best fanbase and all this. Then, I say something they assume is supportive of Pope and say I’m everything that’s causing Kentucky basketball to fail. And they never even see the irony of that.
Good point! If Pope isn't willing to make the changes, I want Mitch to step in and basically do what he did with Tubby Smith.
That fraud? Sorry if it offends some here, but she's a bandwagon fan who only shows up when she's wanting some attention.I’d like to see Ashley Judd’s practice facility!
I never said anyone was a bad fan. Are you saying that you’re in agreement that if things continue to go south this year there’s no point in a third?
I don’t see a problem with that. The criticism has been justified
Not if he can’t prove himself in the transfer portal. Because he sure as heck isn’t getting any high school guys.
Yes it has. I’ll answer the earlier question even though it wasn’t directed to me and say that for me, the answer can be different depending on what we mean:
If history is any guide, if Pope were to turn it around at any point, some of the strongest critics will be posting how they always supported him and knew this would happen. A few will say, "I was wrong!" Of course, if Pope doesn't turn it around, some of the ones who supported him will claim that they didn't. Such is life on a chat board.
If things get worse I just don’t see how he wouldn’t get fired, but you’re probably right. I’d take Pearl, but I think I’d rather we go after oltzenberger or Lloyd. May not be realistic but they would be must calls to me
You haven't said that but some others have. I think we let this year play out and then determine if we keep him for year 3 or not.
I love Otzelberger and Lloyd.
After Matt Dohtery went 8 and 20 in his second year, UNC gave him a third before they fired him. I know it is a different school, different AD, etc but I think it does illustrate that most coaches are going to be given at least 3 years before a change is made as long as it doesn't become a Billy G type situation.
But should he have gotten a third year? No, and it was a waste to give it to him. We should learn from history
That happened over 20 years ago when teams weren’t spending millions of dollars and didn’t have the transfer portal to make immediate impacts on the team. I see Pope’s 3rd season hangs on boosters’ willingness to support him another year. If he doesn’t get the necessary funds, he’s basically going into next year destined to fail because boosters were unwilling to provide.
I’d say if we went 8 and 20, the conversation would look quite a bit different here
On the other side, Dan Hurley was 35 wins and 29 losses at UConn in his first two years. His next 2 years he lost in the Round of 64 and then won 2 straight titles in his 5th and 6th years. Outside of his 2 title years he never even made a Sweet 16!
Exactly. It will be decided by boosters/athletic department not the posters on here. No one really cares if I want year 3 or not. If Kelly Craft says “No year 3 from me” people will listen.
Serious question: Are we overvaluing the transfer portal to help traditional powers? Indiana is playing for the national title in FOOTBALL! Nebraska is undefeated in basketball. Vandy is undefeated in basketball and had a terrific year in football. UNC and Kansas are ranked 17th and 22 respectfully.
To be honest if we continue to take some loses which is for sure to happen... Pope would be regressing by not making the tournament in his 2nd year... These aren't good signs of a good coach if you're dealt 22 million dollars and you can't even make the tournament.
They may not want UK to suck
If it isn’t mitch it’ll be Marc Hill
