The Chicago Daily Tribune once ran a front page story saying Dewey defeats Truman...I don't think that was factual.
In logic, science, and debate, the burden of proof lies on whoever makes the claim. If you assert that something is true, real, causal, or factual, it’s on you to provide evidence. Not on everyone else to disprove it.
It is proven, he just didn't like the 20 different publications that said it.
I don’t think Phil was weighing in either way necessarily. He was responding to your quote where you, the one with the affirmative position were stating your interlocutor has the burden of proof. Anyone on the side of an affirmative claim has the burden of proof in debate.
Nothing will convince you, you’re gonna hang on to believing it’s not true because you want to give pope any excuse you can for some reason. I mean why honestly, are you related to him or something? Do you really believe he should be the coach for years to come? What is it?
The above post is presented by Bulverism, the market leader in assuming the intent of an argument rather than dismantling the merit of the argument itself.
Can’t debate someone when they will take nothing as proof, it’s been reported by multiple sources but he just doesn’t want to accept it
I know exactly what he was saying and I'll repeat myself, everyone and their mother has reported 22 million was spent on the roster, we have all seen it, so if you are denying that’s the right number, tell me why. Show me something that debunks it. None of us are going to see check stubs, that's unrealistic.
I think it’s “likely” that we had a 22M roster but it doesn’t mean a hill of beans to me personally. I just enjoy the debate.
Once again been reported by multiple sources, no one is gonna be able to satisfy the guy unless we get bank statements from each player .
I would say, counterpoint, while it is “likely” true, the reports have referred to it as an estimated figure. The staff’s silence is not proof. Silence is not affirmative support of a point. No one can know for sure if the 22M is true — we can deduce it probably is, but what difference does it ultimately make? This is Kentucky and the expectations are the same almost every year regardless.
I didn’t say anything one way or the other about Pope. I’m down on him myself so…nice uncontested layup I guess lol.
You mentioned Kentucky and expectations in the very last sentence. Pope is the head coach at Kentucky, expectations haven’t been met, therefore pope sucks
So when multiple sources say they have no proof, but the rumor is that UK spent 22 million, I am supposed to accept it as fact? What kind of person accepts something as true without proof? If multiple sources reported that eating lead paint will prolong your life, would you accept it or want actual proof?
I never had an argument about that. I thought you were talking about 22M roster — you’re just changing goalposts and I don’t understand why. You’re choosing to try to debate something obvious — we are 10-6. Who would argue that’s good enough at Kentucky?
Dude what are you on about? My last statement isn’t about arguing with you my goodness.
Just believe what you want. Nothing but actual bank statements will satisfy you. I don’t know why you want to disprove it so bad anyway
It has not been long enough to make that determination. Someone told me early in my last job how much I was failing and I just laughed. A year later I was still laughing. By then nobody on the planet would have said I had failed. I think, at the very least, we need to wait until the end of this season to determine if Pope is failing.
This and thank you. I'm just pointing out that you can't prove a negative and it's up to the person making the claim to provide evidence. Also, just saying "there's plenty of evidence you just don't believe it" isn't providing evidence nor supporting your claim. If you don't feel like looking up or providing evidence, that's perfectly fine. But then just aknowledge that, and agree to disagree on the belief or lack there of. Personally I don't have a firm belief one way or the other. I do remember a few sources reporting it but I don't remember them providing any proof. Also, one publication can report something and then several others can follow suit, citing the original publication as their source. It's likely we spent a lot of money on NIL. UK was in a catch 22 because if they deny it, then we risk getting the reputation of not spending as much as others. Aknowledge it, and then it becomes expected. It's also likely a lot of other teams spent a great deal as well. I'm just not willing to use that 22 mil number as any kind of evidence towards the job Pope is doing or if someone else could do better because "more resources." But people will believe what supports their own inherent bias.
You can believe it hasn’t been long enough if you want. The blowout losses this season and pattern of lack of effort dating back to last season shows me he’s not the guy
I don't want to disprove it. I am just saying why are people believing this and making it a point in their arguments against Pope and the roster? Why are you wanting to prove it so bad anyway?
I’m not trying to prove it, it honestly doesn’t matter. It doesn’t change the fact pope isn’t good either way
Smh, several people in other threads have shown you publications with that 22 million dollar figure. Why you keep trying to play stupid about it makes no sense.
That's an easy answer. Several posters on here threw an absolute tantrum when we hired Pope. They would rather Pope fail and their responses be vindicated rather than admit they were wrong if Pope succeeds. So they will latch on to anything and everything that they believe points to his failure. And for the record, before anyone calls me a Pope Pumper, gun to my head I'd say he's not going to work out here. It's certainly looking like, at this moment, he wasn't a good hire. I however, think we need to at least wait until this season plays out before we make a final determination.
Why do you want a coach fired that has not even completed a year and a half? Did he kick your dog or something is that why you hate him? If you can find one single post, that I said he should be coach for years to come I will send you a check for 1 million dollars. I said that a coach needs more than a year and 1/4. I have also said that if he can't right the ship in year 3, then a change should be made.
Popes gotta keep trying to fix this teams issues. They played a lot better yesterday. I hope that continues.
What is crazy is me being attacked because someone accepts several sources that reported something and even said it has been rumored, no proof. And because I don't accept that as truth, I am the one being unreasonable.Kybassfan and ukjeff going at it like the old days. Insanity at its best.
