National Duals, '25, thread

LostInTransition

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Yeah and Facundo beat Levi last summer in freestyle. Lol. Get your point tho....
Levi looked absolutely lost in that 2024 OTT getting punked by Marinelli as well. It was to the point that I had to go back and check if he'd ever wrestled freestyle before. He had, interesting fact, he and Bo Bassett were teammates on the 2021 Cadet Team.

Safe to say, Levi figured out the freestyle after those losses 18 months ago.
 

zzs006

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I hope that happens, but extremely doubtful. Lockett is going to be a challenge for anyone to score on, be happy with a win.
Mesenbrink has already teched him albeit in freestyle. With the 3 point td I truly do think Mitchell will tech him. Lockett might just run the entire match to keep it a little closer but if he actually wrestles MM I don’t think it’s close
 

Nitlion1986

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Mesenbrink has already teched him albeit in freestyle. With the 3 point td I truly do think Mitchell will tech him. Lockett might just run the entire match to keep it a little closer but if he actually wrestles MM I don’t think it’s close
It took Caliendo 2 years to figure out how to stall well enough against Mesenbrink to keep it a decision. Lockett doesn't have the time nor the amount of opportunities to learn that lesson. If Locket wrestles Mesenbrink it will be a very lopsided score.
 

zzs006

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Zack is now 21 minutes without a takedown .
I think this is the point about googles comment that got me the most. Ryder is athletic and aggressive at times but he’s NEVER been an offensive dynamo. Tons of 1 td matches where he wins with defense. He’s never had a consistent leg attack. Has traditionally scored mainly from underhooks and his whip over from over/under. And with his frame and short arms I don’t see that changing. He has to win by being super sound defensively and opportunistic on offense
 
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I think this is the point about googles comment that got me the most. Ryder is athletic and aggressive at times but he’s NEVER been an offensive dynamo. Tons of 1 td matches where he wins with defense. He’s never had a consistent leg attack. Has traditionally scored mainly from underhooks and his whip over from over/under. And with his frame and short arms I don’t see that changing. He has to win by being super sound defensively and opportunistic on offense
This is how I feel right now. Too much coolaide drinking from Zach's RS year, as well as Rocco's defensive style the last 2 years.

Maybe just maybe The Swaderski, Facundo, Ryder trifecta, countered against Rocco so far indicate the grasshopper isn't ready to snatch the pebble from the masters hand just yet.
 

o_BruceK-PSU83

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Not watching, but wondering is Nebby vastly overrated or is tOSU underrated?
Also not watching, and not if Nebby is rolling out their starters? But some of both, IMO.

Just about everything went right for Nebby at last years BIG and NCAA events. Meanwhile, anOSU has a pretty nice lineup, particularly at the lower weights. Davino is very good at 133 (believe he beat Marcus Blaze in high school), and Bouzakis will be an improvement at 125 if he can adapt to the weight cut. Obviously Mendez is Mendez.

Canon looks to be legit at 157 and Kharchla might be the healthiest he's been for a while at 174. Fishback a solid AA guy and a real good addition at 184. We know about Feldman at heavy.

Stiles transferred in but hasn't done much yet at 149 and Gallagher is at least decent at 165. they're still unsettled at 197 but have a couple decent options in Georg and Shumate. Overall, a solid lineup.
 

LemonPie

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Agreed. Do you think Ramirez is going to take 133 from Richie Figs? He looks like better guy
Hard to tell. Figs looks alright, but just isn’t in shape. You’d think he could correct that, but I wouldn’t bet on it. I would probably lean Ramirez as well.
 
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DWKeller

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Yeah. Kind of like (not exactly, but close enough) if they moved the Cliff Keen to a month after Nationals and invited the top 20 teams to compete there.

Nothing about holding a National Duals championship in November makes sense. Doesn't even make sense in late December like some are pushing as long as the current setup with conference duals in January and February is in place. If Tom Ryan has his way and Ohio State beats PSU (or any other team) on November 17th or December 22nd for the championship in 2029 - let's say PSU is still figuring out their RSs or has some guys recovering from competing internationally that fall - and then gets smacked by PSU (or some other team) 27-9 on January 31st in a conference dual, just how credible will the event be then?????

I said it before, either stupid or self-serving - you make the call.
Nationals should be at the end of the year so each team has well trained wreastlers at all 10 weights. This is esp. important for Freshmen. And there is the problem. 2 majors: Team Nationals and Nationals for the best at each weight. How to make this work?