NBA Needs To Support College Basketball

Doctorzit

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With NIL providing salaries for college players, beside a free education; it.s time for the PRO teams to ante up for this FREE minor league system. The colleges
are expected to educate and the develop players for the NBA; at no cost to the PRO teams. Who are the fools for this scenario.
College basketball as we new it is gone! Someone in the college system has to smarten up and stop this free for all. The NCAA has not done a thing! What are your thoughts?
 

NickRU714

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With NIL providing salaries for college players, beside a free education; it.s time for the PRO teams to ante up for this FREE minor league system. The colleges
are expected to educate and the develop players for the NBA; at no cost to the PRO teams. Who are the fools for this scenario.
College basketball as we new it is gone! Someone in the college system has to smarten up and stop this free for all. The NCAA has not done a thing! What are your thoughts?

And do what?
A lot of words but you left that out.
 
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The RUT

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Lol they’re supporting the WNBA, probably would be a better investment tbh
 

RULoyal

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With NIL providing salaries for college players, beside a free education; it.s time for the PRO teams to ante up for this FREE minor league system. The colleges
are expected to educate and the develop players for the NBA; at no cost to the PRO teams. Who are the fools for this scenario.
College basketball as we new it is gone! Someone in the college system has to smarten up and stop this free for all. The NCAA has not done a thing! What are your thoughts?
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runova09

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I think it would be a good idea if they could make the NBA draft like the NHL draft. NBA teams could draft guys out of high school based on their potential but kids could still play in college to further develop. You could stay in college until the NBA team deems that you are good enough to make the roster. It could be like Luke Hughes for the Devils who played for Michigan and 2 weeks later is playing in the NHL after the end of the college season.

I think that would be more beneficial than trying to make the G league a viable option in creating a genuine fan atmosphere. G league will never have the fandom of high level college basketball. It's way easier to build stars in the college game than to create buzz for guys in g league
 

srru86

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With NIL providing salaries for college players, beside a free education; it.s time for the PRO teams to ante up for this FREE minor league system. The colleges
are expected to educate and the develop players for the NBA; at no cost to the PRO teams. Who are the fools for this scenario.
College basketball as we new it is gone! Someone in the college system has to smarten up and stop this free for all. The NCAA has not done a thing! What are your thoughts?
At least NBA has a development league. The NFL doesn't even fund anything like that. If the NFL owners won't pay up I don't think the NBA is going any further.
 

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I think it would be a good idea if they could make the NBA draft like the NHL draft. NBA teams could draft guys out of high school based on their potential but kids could still play in college to further develop. You could stay in college until the NBA team deems that you are good enough to make the roster. It could be like Luke Hughes for the Devils who played for Michigan and 2 weeks later is playing in the NHL after the end of the college season.

I think that would be more beneficial than trying to make the G league a viable option in creating a genuine fan atmosphere. G league will never have the fandom of high level college basketball. It's way easier to build stars in the college game than to create buzz for guys in g league
First of all the NBA won’t do anything that will cost them money. But another factor is that the general view in the NBA is that colleges generally don’t do a good job of developing players, they run offenses and defenses that are completely different from how the game is played in the NBA. For example we all love the success Pike has has with his defense here at Rutgers. But the style he plays, where we press, over pursue and double team on the perimeter, and excessively switch and double is not how the game is played in the NBA, where they value straight up man to man defense. NBA teams generally have their G league teams running all the same plays and defenses they use at the pro level so the players learn how to play within the system, and learn to play the role the team wants them to play. NBA teams want the best players within their systems as early as possible so they can mold and develop them so they can be successful at the pro level.
 

runova09

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First of all the NBA won’t do anything that will cost them money. But another factor is that the general view in the NBA is that colleges generally don’t do a good job of developing players, they run offenses and defenses that are completely different from how the game is played in the NBA. For example we all love the success Pike has has with his defense here at Rutgers. But the style he plays, where we press, over pursue and double team on the perimeter, and excessively switch and double is not how the game is played in the NBA, where they value straight up man to man defense. NBA teams generally have their G league teams running all the same plays and defenses they use at the pro level so the players learn how to play within the system, and learn to play the role the team wants them to play. NBA teams want the best players within their systems as early as possible so they can mold and develop them so they can be successful at the pro level.
No doubt about the style of play and getting guys to know plays. From a marketing standpoint, college provides more viewership opportunities and allows for stars to be seen. You can build a buzz of the young talent in college. That hasn't been the case for the kids who went to g league out of high school.

Maybe as a draft pick, you could have more a relationship with the pro team that can tell the player what they should be working on for their development
 

NickRU714

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No doubt about the style of play and getting guys to know plays. From a marketing standpoint, college provides more viewership opportunities and allows for stars to be seen. You can build a buzz of the young talent in college. That hasn't been the case for the kids who went to g league out of high school.

Maybe as a draft pick, you could have more a relationship with the pro team that can tell the player what they should be working on for their development

NBA (and NBA fans) couldn't care less about "buzz" from college players.

Sure the G-League doesn't get the "fan buzz".
That's not stopping those G-League players from being top draft picks.
Latest example - Scoot Henderson going Top 3 in June.
The top pick this year isn't even playing on this continent. He's been playing in France and been the projected #1 pick for over a year.
"College buzz" is meaningless for the NBA draft.
 
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MiloTalon13

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The NBA is already paying prospects millions to skip college and play for the G-League Ignite. They gave the 37th ranked player in the 2023 class over a million to skip college.

Matas Buzelis is a top 2023 HS player and projected top 3 in 2024 draft going gleague ignite.
As this route gets more popular NBA will add Ignite like teams watering down NCAA even more. Be careful what you wish for
 

Doctorzit

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And do what?
A lot of words but you left that out.


What I would do is have players choose between Education and No Education.
If a player opts for education; his college expenses are provided ( including a fixed amount of living expense; otherwise known as discretionary spending money) and he cannot go into the portal for 2 years. If he decides to transfer he must sit out a year.
Alternatively, opting for college to prepare for the PROs ( no education) would be handled this way: Going to class is optional ( the consequence is flunking out after one year); all expenses to be paid by the player ( no free tuition, no room and board, no living expenses, no tutoring, no money provided by the college at all). You might ask why a player or school would do this?
The obvious answer is for a player in the No Education category should go to the G league and let the pro team pay for his development. Or the individual can go play overseas for pay. College is for education not sports alone. I enjoyed sports in college because I like to compete and it was something to look forward to beside studying. It also provided me with the credentials to enter medical school.
The schools won't be hurt financially if this is done. College students and alumni will still root for their teams and go to games even if those few players who are good enough for the PROs are not there. Just look at the Ivy League as an example. The kids are there for an education, stay the 4 years, teams have a strong fan base who attend games, and sometimes are terrific and compete in the NCAAs.
 
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NickRU714

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What I would do is have players choose between Education and No Education.
If a player opts for education; his college expenses are provided ( including a fixed amount of living expense; otherwise known as discretionary spending money) and he cannot go into the portal for 2 years. If he decides to transfer he must sit out a year.
Alternatively, opting for college to prepare for the PROs ( no education) would be handled this way: Going to class is optional ( the consequence is flunking out after one year); all expenses to be paid by the player ( no free tuition, no room and board, no living expenses, no tutoring, no money provided by the college at all). You might ask why a player or school would do this?
The obvious answer is for a player in the No Education category should go to the G league and let the pro team pay for his development. Or the individual can go play overseas for pay. College is for education not sports alone. I enjoyed sports in college because I like to compete and it was something to look forward to beside studying. It also provided me with the credentials to enter medical school.
The schools won't be hurt financially if this is done. College students and alumni will still root for their teams and go to games even if those few players who are good enough for the PROs are not there. Just look at the Ivy League as an example. The kids are there for an education, stay the 4 years, teams have a strong fan base who attend games, and sometimes are terrific and compete in the NCAAs.

So no Ace Bailey or Dylan Harper at RU?
That would go over well.

Basically the top 20ish (likely all 5 star players) are going to skip college then.
Hope fans start lowering their recruitment expectations.
 
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Eagleton95.99

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With NIL providing salaries for college players, beside a free education; it.s time for the PRO teams to ante up for this FREE minor league system. The colleges
are expected to educate and the develop players for the NBA; at no cost to the PRO teams. Who are the fools for this scenario.
College basketball as we new it is gone! Someone in the college system has to smarten up and stop this free for all. The NCAA has not done a thing! What are your thoughts?
The NBA thinks they already did what they need to do in this regard with the G-League.
 

cm_13

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The NBA just agreed to a new CBA that keeps draft eligibility rules as they currently exist today, so draft eligibility won’t be changing until 2029 at the earliest.

Which is perfectly fine with me because I want to watch Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper play as Scarlet Knights.
 

Doctorzit

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Does your employer pay universities to educate its workforc
There are many examples of companies educating employees at their own expense. My own grandson works for a company that will pay tuition for an employee to get a law degree.
 

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With NIL providing salaries for college players, beside a free education; it.s time for the PRO teams to ante up for this FREE minor league system. The colleges
are expected to educate and the develop players for the NBA; at no cost to the PRO teams. Who are the fools for this scenario.
College basketball as we new it is gone! Someone in the college system has to smarten up and stop this free for all. The NCAA has not done a thing! What are your thoughts?
College basketball hasn't been a minor league for the NBA for a long time. As another poster mentioned, colleges do a poor job developing players for anything other than American college basketball. Most of the best NBA players in the league now have played little or no college basketball, and a lot of them are from overseas. Those players wouldn't be as good as they are if they spent multiple years in American college programs. Some of the exceptions, players like Steph Curry and Damian Lillard, were lightly recruited coming out of high school.
 
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