Can you point us to a time before Kap that it was a mainstream issue? Should be pretty easy.
NBA - No More National Anthem...
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Can you point us to a time before Kap that it was a mainstream issue? Should be pretty easy.
Let’s stop flying the flag at government buildings and schools too because what does it really matter? Anything the left can do to denationalize this country they will do
"god's" anointed people? Shouldn't God be capitalized, even if you are a non-believer? I mean, I don't believe that there are actual beings such as Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or Bigfoot, but I don't make reference to "santa claus", the "easter bunny", or "bigfoot". Are you just trying to prove some kind of point with this?
Imagine being that triggered over a song and cloth. These people allegedly have so much respect for both, but when you ask them the historical information about either, they never know it without having to Google it.
I was at a family gathering pre-covid and some of my family members were shitting all over Kaepernick and others who kneeled and supported it. They went on for 10 minutes or so and I let them start feeling real good about themselves. Then, in front of everyone, I started asking them about how and when the fLag was first created and who made it. Asked when it was officially adopted, how many variations there were and when the current version was adopted. Not a damn person knew. Did the same with with the Star Spangled Banner, same result. Then I reiterated that the person they were claiming to be unpatriotic and unAmerican sure knew more about their nations history and patroitic symbols than they did, and their rage sure seemed over-the- top for people who knew so little about something they put their respect and passion blindly behind. Never again have they brought up the topic around me.
So you disagree that America and its ideals are not the pinnacle of western civilization? That we are not the greatest nation in history?
Please note that I did not say perfect. We are human. We have flaws. We made mistakes. But do you think that overall America has not been a force for good and progress?
How many cops did you assault on January 6 because the Orange Man told you there was voter fraud despite losing 70+ court cases over the issue because they were all lies?
Forget it. I’ve found you cannot have a rational conversation with a leftist. They ignore facts to rationalize their positions.
Not at all, especially considering that I am not religious myself. #amusedatyoursilliness would be more accurate.
Imagine being this triggered over other people being triggered. Truly sad and pathetic.
I do disagree with that. I think it is creepy and displays a deep insecurity in our national psyche that we are so obsessed with being THE GREATEST and insisting that all Americans must agree that we are THE GREATEST.
Rich coming from a guy who supports Donald Trump, biggest liar in the history of American politics.
I meant no "point" by it. You're right that in that context it would be grammatically correct to capitalize the word God as it was clearly referring to a specific entity and not to a generic deity. I didn't stop to think about it.
How many businesses did you burn down all of last year? How many flat screens did you steal? How many vehicles did you burn up? How many people did you attack? Works both ways, doesn’t it?
And by the way, I was a U.S. Special Agent for almost 30 years and have more respect for LEOs than you EVER will.
Did we allow the Soviet Union to own and control major interests in Hollywood, American Corporations, and our educational system?
Did we allow Soviet Companies to do business here in America?
Did we allow American companies to do business in the Soviet Union with the catch that the CCCP control the corporations including intellectual property transfer?
Did we allow the Soviets to purchase and control major media entities in America?
The answer to those questions was no but for some reason yes when substituted for Communist China.
And i guess you support Dementia Joe, who on video bragged about extorting a foreign country by withholding taxpayer funded assistance unless they fired the guy investigating his corrupt son.
Sounds like you’re a member of a family of dumbasses who slept through history class.
I think that's a dumb and irrelevant question without any kind of objective answer.
Thank you Mark, never made sense why we play it before sporting events anyway.
Yeah, the mods will lock it up, after allowing the thread to begin with. It’s what they do.
Only do it at Nascar events, those fans are patriotic. Not a lot of kneeling.
How many of these same people complaining about it actively violate the Flag Code every chance they get? I’m going with 50%, which is probably pretty low if I’m being honest.
That most people, especially those who get the angriest, seem to know little historically about either?
Not following how that makes one triggered. Maybe you could explain, since you seem to know?
In the end, it’s a smart move.
on one side, players and coaches can’t kneel before the game and piss off anybody.
on the other side, nobody really cares about it anyways. This just removes all possibilities of escalation.
on one side, players and coaches can’t kneel before the game and piss off anybody.
on the other side, nobody really cares about it anyways. This just removes all possibilities of escalation.
No, it’s a cop out. It’s just another example of giving in to the whining left that is offended by every damned thing.
Fair enough.
I think it’s dumb to state that the ONLY country to enshrine freedom of speech, freedom to worship, and the right to bear arms in its founding document isn’t great.
I think it’s dumb to claim that the country that over 1 BILLION people worldwide would move to if allowed (per Gallop) isn’t great.
I think it’s dumb to claim that a country that sacrificed hundreds of thousands of its lives to end slavery, defeat Nazism, and fight communism isn’t great.
It’s dumb to say that the country that built the skyscrapers, first in flight, largest and wealthiest middle class, and countless other technological innovations isn’t great.
But you’re more into short and nonsubstantive replies so I can see why you would think that.
Other countries have MANY traditions that I guarantee you or I don’t know about that serve to bind them. Many of them are very local because their cultures are much older. The anthem and pro sports just happen to be one of ours, and not that old.
We are great. Our ideals are worth celebrating. We’re damn lucky. Being proud of that and occasionally being reminded of it doesn’t mean we’re perfect or that we don’t have problems to fix.
Back in 2005 I didn’t ask everyone why it was being played. I don’t today either.
But it’s never made sense to me why we play it before sporting events when we don’t play it before any other social events.
Well actually it makes sense in the NFL since they are getting paid to do it, or at least were getting paid for it.